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Old 02-03-2010, 12:43 AM   #1
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So I am in Wal-Mart and on top of the fact that the only "flavors" I could find were McCormick extracts, I bet I walked all over the store and asked every single person in the grocery dept. where I could find vegetable glycerin and after all that I still didn't find it. I would like to start experimenting with flavor and mixing. What exactly does glycerin do? does it add to the throat hit or just make a ton of more smoke? PLEASE tell me where I can find it in Wal-Mart so I don't make an ass out of myself again. Thanks

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So I am in Wal-Mart and on top of the fact that the only "flavors" I could find were McCormick extracts, I bet I walked all over the store and asked every single person in the grocery dept. where I could find vegetable glycerin and after all that I still didn't find it. I would like to start experimenting with flavor and mixing. What exactly does glycerin do? does it add to the throat hit or just make a ton of more smoke? PLEASE tell me where I can find it in Wal-Mart so I don't make an ass out of myself again. Thanks

P.S. this forum is great you guys don't put me in a corner if I swear a little. I was put in the corner for using the acronym OMFG I felt like I was 12 and they gave me some sort of point.

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Vegetable Glycerin (or simply glycerin) creates a greater amount of clouds. It'll add much to the visual effect which I find to be helpful since I smoked cigarettes prior to using these. It also it has a smoother feel to the vapor and it adds a slight sweetness to juices.

Not sure where it is in Wal-Mart.
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Old 02-03-2010, 01:08 AM   #3
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Old 02-03-2010, 01:14 AM   #4
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I did they only had glycerin for making soap and that just didn't sound right to me
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Old 02-03-2010, 01:17 AM   #5
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Look at picture at bottom of first post in this thread and at least you'll have an idea of what the bottle looks like.
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Old 02-03-2010, 01:25 AM   #6
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It's probably the right stuff total. The stuff at Walmart is Brand name HUMCO. The label says GLYCERIN Skin protectrant. Look in first aid or skin care.
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Old 02-03-2010, 01:49 AM   #7
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Total, it WAS used for making soap for about a hundred years or so Home made soap was very caustic and glycerin sometimes was added t. My Gramma used to make her own soap from wood ashes,lard and lye I think and "cut" it with glycerin scented with rose water(lowest order of perfume liquids like eau de toilette) . That is why it says skin protectant on the label. Should be somewhere close to the bandaids and bactine. bikes
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Actually I think it is a by-product of soap making, produced by mixing pig squeezins with lye.
Vegetable Glycerin comes from rendering vegetation like palm fruit. Synthetic glycerin is also a product of Dow Chemical and comes from rendering old tires.

Chemists swear that the molecules are the same, USP purity levels can be obtained no matter what the process or source material. I tried some from the Baby Butt Lotion department in Walmarts and it was AWFUL.

Some Vegetable Glycerin processes are monitored by Kosher Certification Organizations. Kosher Certified Vegetable Glycerin will not contain any animal byproducts. About the only way to know what is NOT in VG is to know what IS in VG.

I only buy Kosher Certified Vegetable Based USP Food Grade Glycerin with a LOT NUMBER, period, done deal, nothin butt.

I get the little 2 oz bottles of Wiltons from the "Cake Decorating" section sometimes in Walmart, or Hobby Lobby. Loranns has 16 oz bottles of Kosher VG, and that is also a good place to buy your Loranns flavors (duh). Wiltons also has a website. Now Foods also has FOOD GRADE VG.

The carrier in your e-juice, PG or VG or mix of both, is the major ingredient in e-juice. Make sure it is the good stuff.


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Scan the DIY section of this forum, threads about mixing juice, for some valuable reading material. Add to the Old Threads, bring them back up front, update the information.

Photo of Lorann's VG and little bottle of Wilton's from Hobby Lobby. Both have traceable LOT NUMBERS.
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I use the Humco, because it was already in my bathroom cabinet, and it works great to cut high nic- juice, I will try Rocketman suggestion later but I still have 177 ml to finish first, I bought it at Wallmart in the pharmacy area for like $3
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Old 02-03-2010, 08:33 AM   #10
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The Humco Glycerin is a tossup. Humco Holding Group, Inc.
They buy big lots of Glycerin, blend it all together and repackage it. (In Texarkana)
It is 99.5% Glycerin, USP grade, maybe pig, maybe old tires, maybe not.
Granted it is cheap. I don't believe it is recommended for FOOD PRODUCTS.

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There you go again Rocket ruining my perfectly blissful ignorance with valid data. Your problem is literacy and exposure to the good stuff, you make it sound like sucking on indeterminate pig parts and old tires is a bad thing. bikes
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No not at all,

I always thought
Better Things for Better Living...Through Chemistry**

was a pretty catchy slogan.

**Trademark slogan of the company that put Teflon in frying pans.
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No not at all,

I always thought
Better Things for Better Living...Through Chemistry**

was a pretty catchy slogan.

**Trademark slogan of the company that put Teflon in frying pans.
But then an internet dating site bought
Chemistry.com

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I bought my Aqueous Glycerin from an e-juice seller...don't know what I'll do when I run out tho, so appreciate the how-to on the good stuff!
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Old 02-03-2010, 03:22 PM   #15
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Actually your VG started out as Non-aqueous Glycerin (hopefully Vegetable based).
It becomes Aqueous after you open it and let water vapor get into the bottle.
Not that we LIVE in an area with plenty extra water vapor in the air.


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But then an internet dating site bought
Chemistry.com

LmAo
A lot easier to explain when it shows up on the credit card.
Chemistry.com, oh that's where I buy my makeup, hun.
You do want me to look good for you, don't you?

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Rocket, is that the same Delaware based company that marketed the better living product called napalm, isn't that used for vaporizing also?
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For small bottles ... its eBay for me "Wiltons" VG ...very inepensive & decent shipping.

Wilton Glycerine 2oz - eBay )

(I love free shipping too!)
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This is available from Aubuchon Hardware

Glycerine, 1 Qt # 90668 by Animed

99.5% Kosher
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This is available from Aubuchon Hardware

Glycerine, 1 Qt # 90668 by Animed

99.5% Kosher
I didn't chase out the manufacturer on this one, but did not see Kosher certification. Might be. Did you find the cert and/or organization that did the certification? I'll look tomorrow, just feeling lazy right now THere have actually been cases where sellers have used the "Kosher" claim and been forced to recall the product because it really wasn't "Certified" by a recognized agency.

This product appears to be the result of a manufacturing/distribution process with an intended end use of rubbing on animal butts. Does not mean it's not good stuff, at a good price, but everyone in the distribution train knows it probably won't be used in human food. Will they be extra extra careful?

Chase out the source if you have the time.

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This is only somewhat related, but it's perfect for the thread: YouTube - Make an invisible bottle!
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I also use Wiltons

Straight from the Wilton.com website. $2 a bottle, shipping is $7 for up to 8 bottles, jumps at 9 bottles.

That's 16 oz for $23 shipped. Lorann's has a shipping charge also. Don't remember the total but I ordered like $75 and got free shipping. Lots of flavors and their VG is in 16 oz bottles.

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you can get VG in the healthfoods section of our grocery stores here... not sure if that's helpful though.
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Health food stores here usually charge extra just because.
Healthy, organic, opportunity to charge more

I'm sure it's better than the stuff I got once in the Baby Butt Lotion section.

I think they also use the stuff as pouch lube right?

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Just kidding.
Let us know some of the mixing supplies you can find there.

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you can get VG in the healthfoods section of our grocery stores here... not sure if that's helpful though.
Oz is about a 23 hour flight for me!
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