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10-09-2011, 03:03 PM
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#1 | | Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Kansas
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| Hello all,
I've been lurking for a week trying to learn all I can about vaping so I can kick the analogs FOREVER!!!
Wife and I love it!
We need some help to make better decisions than we have so far so we don't ever go back to analogs so we decided to register and get some help... |
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10-09-2011, 03:05 PM
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#2 | | awarded title of Sir Arse Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Louisiana
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| Admitting you have a problem is the first step
Welcome.
Tell us what you have, what you have experienced so far and where you might need some more info.
__________________ A good e-juice, fresh carto, and 3.7 volts from a REALLY REALLY BIG battery works for me. YMMV
Originally Posted by Rocketman
...Quasi was right...Once
...OK, Twice...Maybe
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10-09-2011, 03:16 PM
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#3 | | Darth Vaper Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Leftern Mass
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Originally Posted by Rocketman Admitting you have a problem is the first step
Welcome.
Tell us what you have, what you have experienced so far and where you might need some more info. | Admitting he's a smoker, or admitting he signed on here?
__________________ Do you mind if I STEAM?! "well, you see Steam, we never had a rule about it because we didn't think anybody would ever DO it!" I'm one lab accident away from being a supervillan. I knew that a hole wasn't from jersey...
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10-09-2011, 03:25 PM
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#4 | | Vapezilla Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Heaven
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| Welcome to the forum, glad to have more test patients... |
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10-09-2011, 03:26 PM
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#5 | | Vapezilla Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Heaven
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Originally Posted by Steampunk Admitting he's a smoker, or admitting he signed on here? | LOL! |
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10-09-2011, 04:06 PM
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#6 | | Hypervaporation in effect Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Deep in the Heart of the greatest state in the Union
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Originally Posted by Steampunk Admitting he's a smoker, or admitting he signed on here? | Quote:
Originally Posted by RY4 Welcome to the forum, glad to have more test patients...  | double giggle
advice from a noob to a noob - dont run out of anything
__________________ Drip that tip, to wet the wire. Now vape that juice, no need for fire Hypervaporation effect in effect |
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10-09-2011, 04:07 PM
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#7 | | Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Kansas
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| We started with a couple of Cigarti starter kits we bought from a friend, we quickly realized buying prefilled cartomizers was going to double the amount we normally spent on analogs. On impulse we purchased an ego kit and some DIY juice and flavorings...
We like the ego WAY better than the cigarti! Mixing juice is no problem (I've always been a DIY'er). We see that we can seriously reduce the money we spend by mixing our own juice and other than a couple nasty 1ml trials we are happy mixers now, she gets what she wants and I don't have to vape the same thing as my nic needs are twice hers...
I'm not really sure where to go from here though, with as much as we like the egos we are having some problems with the atty flooding. I've tried a few cart mods but nothing seems to help and now we feel like it just a matter of time till we are forced to go back to analogs...
We would truly appreciate some suggestions as we are looking for a different kit now. We were looking at the ego-t but really have no idea where to go from here due to some not so great reviews for the ego-t. At first glance it looked perfect for our needs, but if we get it and experience the problems others have with leakage or 10 dollar attys burning up every 3 days we will probably throw in the towel and go back to analogs...
I have been vaping 4-5ml a day and she is close to 2ml (not sure if that's useful info but may help with suggestions). We are looking to find a kit that will better suit our needs... We like the 510 atty so far but have nothing to compare it to xcept the cigarti stuff and would rather not throw away money "trying" to figure all this out.
Things we like about the ego: battery life, last me most of a day and hers goes 2. The 510 atty seems to produce enough vapor to satisfy us and keep us from craving a cig. Juice taste is decent with it. The size, not too big or small. It doesnt look like an anolog. It can be turned off...
Things we don't like about the ego: stock carts hold very little juice with poly and modding seems to flood the atty no matter what I do xcept when I over stuff and lose the wicking leaving atty and me dry vaping
Other considerations: nothing huge, portability and concealment are key issues as we don't really care for getting questioned about them all the time...
Any suggestions will be GREATLY appreciated!
Thanks in advance,
Luvnthevapes |
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10-09-2011, 04:13 PM
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#8 | | Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Kansas
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10-09-2011, 04:14 PM
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#9 | | Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Kansas
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| I can already tell I'll fit in here he he. |
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10-09-2011, 04:21 PM
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#10 | | Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Kansas
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Originally Posted by wetwire double giggle
advice from a noob to a noob - dont run out of anything  | We did think ahead and picked up a two month supply of juice, holding off on carts and attys till we figure out where to go from here.
Dang good advice though! |
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10-09-2011, 04:28 PM
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#11 | | Vapezilla Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Heaven
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Originally Posted by Luvnthevapes We started with a couple of Cigarti starter kits we bought from a friend, we quickly realized buying prefilled cartomizers was going to double the amount we normally spent on analogs. On impulse we purchased an ego kit and some DIY juice and flavorings...
We like the ego WAY better than the cigarti! Mixing juice is no problem (I've always been a DIY'er). We see that we can seriously reduce the money we spend by mixing our own juice and other than a couple nasty 1ml trials we are happy mixers now, she gets what she wants and I don't have to vape the same thing as my nic needs are twice hers...
I'm not really sure where to go from here though, with as much as we like the egos we are having some problems with the atty flooding. I've tried a few cart mods but nothing seems to help and now we feel like it just a matter of time till we are forced to go back to analogs...
We would truly appreciate some suggestions as we are looking for a different kit now. We were looking at the ego-t but really have no idea where to go from here due to some not so great reviews for the ego-t. At first glance it looked perfect for our needs, but if we get it and experience the problems others have with leakage or 10 dollar attys burning up every 3 days we will probably throw in the towel and go back to analogs...
I have been vaping 4-5ml a day and she is close to 2ml (not sure if that's useful info but may help with suggestions). We are looking to find a kit that will better suit our needs... We like the 510 atty so far but have nothing to compare it to xcept the cigarti stuff and would rather not throw away money "trying" to figure all this out.
Things we like about the ego: battery life, last me most of a day and hers goes 2. The 510 atty seems to produce enough vapor to satisfy us and keep us from craving a cig. Juice taste is decent with it. The size, not too big or small. It doesnt look like an anolog. It can be turned off...
Things we don't like about the ego: stock carts hold very little juice with poly and modding seems to flood the atty no matter what I do xcept when I over stuff and lose the wicking leaving atty and me dry vaping
Other considerations: nothing huge, portability and concealment are key issues as we don't really care for getting questioned about them all the time...
Any suggestions will be GREATLY appreciated!
Thanks in advance,
Luvnthevapes | Are you using attys or cartos? I ask because you mentioned poly and the cartos have poly, attys do not. Using attys, you use 3 pieces, the battery, the atty, and the cartridge. With cartos, you use 2, the carto with poly fill and atty combined, then battery. With that said, each individual is different in what works for them. I started with smaller batteries and worked my way gradually through to the larger batteries, now going into VariVolt mods. I was/am an eGo/Riva style model. They worked well to a point. I eventually went to the E-Power model and XL dual coil cartos. This combo has gone a long way to curb the cig cravings. I love that this model has replaceable batteries, which is much cheaper but this unit is not without it's minor issues. Even with those issues, it is the main device I use today. The Dual Coil cartos, IMO, can't be beat at this time. I am a carto person... I don't like using the attys and many do prefer the attys. My next step up with be to the VariVolt mods. Hope this helps some. |
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10-09-2011, 04:30 PM
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#12 | | Darth Vaper Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Leftern Mass
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| CE3s have no polyfill. Atties do, in the cartridge. G4s have no polyfill, but I guess they aren't well liked, so....
Also, the CE2s don't have it, either.
__________________ Do you mind if I STEAM?! "well, you see Steam, we never had a rule about it because we didn't think anybody would ever DO it!" I'm one lab accident away from being a supervillan. I knew that a hole wasn't from jersey...
Now will you all please leave while Dr Berger and I make out the Death Certificates! |
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10-09-2011, 04:30 PM
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#13 | | Vapezilla Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Heaven
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Originally Posted by Luvnthevapes We did think ahead and picked up a two month supply of juice, holding off on carts and attys till we figure out where to go from here.
Dang good advice though! | Yes don't run out and have backups in batteries/chargers/etc.... |
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10-09-2011, 04:32 PM
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#14 | | Vapezilla Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Heaven
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Originally Posted by Steampunk CE3s have no polyfill. Atties do, in the cartridge. G4s have no polyfill, but I guess they aren't well liked, so....
Also, the CE2s don't have it, either. | Yuck to CE2s and G4s... both PITA... IMO of course...  How you doing on your no smoking these days? |
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10-09-2011, 04:36 PM
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#15 | | Darth Vaper Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Leftern Mass
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Originally Posted by RY4 Yuck to CE2s and G4s... both PITA... IMO of course...  How you doing on your no smoking these days? | What smoking?
I was looking today while cleaning an old car...well, if I find one...
I didn't...
SOMETHING is making my hands and feet have skin that feels like leather, and breaking out in bumps. I think it might either be the nic I'm using, or too much nic, or...
No ideea. And I also have Crohne's, very mild, but that's causing problems with my hands, too.
Could be VG? Could be PG? I know when I was using Vt Vapor only I was having no problems, but it's not enough nic to keep from reaching for a pack...
__________________ Do you mind if I STEAM?! "well, you see Steam, we never had a rule about it because we didn't think anybody would ever DO it!" I'm one lab accident away from being a supervillan. I knew that a hole wasn't from jersey...
Now will you all please leave while Dr Berger and I make out the Death Certificates! |
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10-09-2011, 04:38 PM
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#16 | | Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Kansas
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| We are ustig the attys, I'm probably confusing the terminology, the carts I'm referring to are the tips that have the poly in em and pull off the atomizer.
I realize this is all personal preference, we like the ego so far when it isn't having flooding issues. Dripping is inconvenient for us at the moment as we have lil crumb grabbin rug rats that require quite a bit of hands on...
I'll be researching all these suggestions and really appreciate the help |
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10-09-2011, 04:48 PM
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#17 | | Vapezilla Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Heaven
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Originally Posted by Steampunk What smoking?
I was looking today while cleaning an old car...well, if I find one...
I didn't...
SOMETHING is making my hands and feet have skin that feels like leather, and breaking out in bumps. I think it might either be the nic I'm using, or too much nic, or...
No ideea. And I also have Crohne's, very mild, but that's causing problems with my hands, too.
Could be VG? Could be PG? I know when I was using Vt Vapor only I was having no problems, but it's not enough nic to keep from reaching for a pack... | Way to go staying of the cigs!!! Have no idea on the skin issues. Do you ever get the liquid on your skin? Maybe try using more VG, have heard of some issues with PG and skin. Can you add nic to the VT Vapor? |
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10-09-2011, 04:52 PM
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#18 | | Vapezilla Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Heaven
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Originally Posted by Luvnthevapes We are ustig the attys, I'm probably confusing the terminology, the carts I'm referring to are the tips that have the poly in em and pull off the atomizer.
I realize this is all personal preference, we like the ego so far when it isn't having flooding issues. Dripping is inconvenient for us at the moment as we have lil crumb grabbin rug rats that require quite a bit of hands on...
I'll be researching all these suggestions and really appreciate the help  | Yep, your using the 3 piece units. Sorry, I don't like those as they are too much a PITA for me. I like to just screw on my carto and be good to go. Plus don't care to wait for the juice to drip down from the cartridge to the atty. I would be an atty frier if I tried to use those on a regular basis with my vape habits. I'm sure there will be many along who can give you suggestions on the uses of attys. Now, if your ready to try out cartos... I might can help you there some. |
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10-09-2011, 05:01 PM
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#19 | | Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Kansas
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| We are willing to try a few suggestions, if possible things that will work with the kit we already have, we were using the cartomizers with the cigarti kits but they don't seem to hold enough juice and we kept getting stuck somewhere with emptys. I have been refilling a few of them here and there to compare and think the flavor is a tiny bit better thru em but the batts are small and don't last me very long.
Are clearomizers worth looking into, does anybody even make them for the ego? |
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10-09-2011, 05:08 PM
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#20 | | Darth Vaper Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Leftern Mass
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Originally Posted by RY4 Way to go staying of the cigs!!! Have no idea on the skin issues. Do you ever get the liquid on your skin? Maybe try using more VG, have heard of some issues with PG and skin. Can you add nic to the VT Vapor? | I have been, but I have three different kinds from different vendors, so I'm going back to what was working. If it clears up I'll try one of the others and see what happens.
__________________ Do you mind if I STEAM?! "well, you see Steam, we never had a rule about it because we didn't think anybody would ever DO it!" I'm one lab accident away from being a supervillan. I knew that a hole wasn't from jersey...
Now will you all please leave while Dr Berger and I make out the Death Certificates! |
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10-09-2011, 05:13 PM
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#21 | | Why So Serious ? Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Almost Heaven WV
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| I have become quite fond of the Dual Coil Cartos and Mega DC Cartos, so much easier to deal with and hold lots of juice.
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10-09-2011, 05:19 PM
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#22 | | awarded title of Sir Arse Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Louisiana
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| OK, you like the electrical aspects of the eGo (for now). For now, I recommend sticking with the eGo Battery.
Stop looking for "KITS".
Leakage, polyfill or wicks, juice capacity have nothing to do with the electrical performance of the eGo.
You are now looking for a liquid holding device to go on top of your eGos.
Since both you and the wife are using a 510 based device, that will make sampling cartomizers that much easier and cheaper.
Make sure you have enough eGo batteries so each of you have a spare.
Have enough juice to last for a couple of weeks.
Order a five pack of two different cartomizers to sample.
Watch shipping charges and group orders as best as you can.
Build on the common eGo base. Don't go jumping around until you know what you want.
There is no reason what you have can't keep you vaping and save money over cigarettes. Keep track of what you spend and don't get too stressed out if things don't go smoothly at first.
My suggestion would be a 5 pack of 1.6 ohm Dual Coil Cartomizers for you and a pack of 3 ohm regular fuzzy filler cartomizers for the wife. Swap out to test both. Don't do "weird" yet. No clear, no super special expensive tanks. Start simple.
Keep the cartos over half full.
Top them off at the beginning and don't try and vape them dry. Top off when you think they are less than half full. A little dropper bottle can be pretty stealthy.
__________________ A good e-juice, fresh carto, and 3.7 volts from a REALLY REALLY BIG battery works for me. YMMV
Originally Posted by Rocketman
...Quasi was right...Once
...OK, Twice...Maybe |
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10-09-2011, 05:20 PM
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#23 | | Hypervaporation in effect Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Deep in the Heart of the greatest state in the Union
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Originally Posted by Steampunk What smoking?
I was looking today while cleaning an old car...well, if I find one...
I didn't...
SOMETHING is making my hands and feet have skin that feels like leather, and breaking out in bumps. I think it might either be the nic I'm using, or too much nic, or...
No ideea. And I also have Crohne's, very mild, but that's causing problems with my hands, too.
Could be VG? Could be PG? I know when I was using Vt Vapor only I was having no problems, but it's not enough nic to keep from reaching for a pack... | Sry to jack but he asked
PG is known to cause general dehydration from what I have been reading.. VG has the opposite effect. The VG (glycerin) from wallyworld is actually a skin softener/ protectant ..I have rubbed it on my old dried out chemically cleaned mits and like most lotions I have used before it is greasy for awhile and then absorbs in... Yes I do use lotion.. My hands get very dry from not using proper protection when working with chemicals. I have plenty of nitrile gloves.. Just forget sometimes. Anyway.. Drink lots of water also. It helps with the leather part..
FYI - I used some of this degreaser called superclean (purple bottle) without gloves one time, for about 2-3 mins cleaning out something. Within an hour my hands felt like paper. It took two days to get them back close to normal.. I used the Glycerin from ww and it fixed em right up.. Don't like vaping the stuff anyway.. makes me cough I think. BTW - Humco was contacted (supposedly by the poster below in the snipit )and claim that that stuff is safe for human consumption. Vapes well and is has a sweet taste to it, but dunno. BBTW - As a general degreaser, paint remover,etc, this stuff kicks butt. Just do not get it on your skin http: //www.supercleanbrands.com/
Little snip from ww site.
Sorry for rambling and post jacking. Just tryin to help. I just emailed Humco Customer Service department and asked this very same question. They told me that YES it is safe for human consumption!
answered 1 year, 4 months ago
answer 2
You only need FCC grade glycerin to cook with. This superior USP grade Vegetable Glycerine is overkill, plus note that it's intended use is only for skin care. For anybody else who wonders about it, please do some research before you make a decision. Glycerin derived from animal fats is called Tallow, or Crude Mixed, or Technical Grade Only which does not exist in the legitimate USP / FCC market. HUMCO USP Glycerin is completely safe for human use. Thank You.
answer 4
This question has been going on a lot lately because of e-cigarette users who use glycerin in their liquids.
Typically, most feel that this type is not edible because Humco, the manufacturer of this glycerin, has stated that it is not solely made of vegetable. Sometimes it's all vegetable and sometimes it's not, depending on the lot you get.
There is a vegetable glycerin suitable for use in fondant. Wilton makes it.
answered 2 years, 5 months ago
__________________ Drip that tip, to wet the wire. Now vape that juice, no need for fire Hypervaporation effect in effect |
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10-09-2011, 05:25 PM
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#24 | | Banned Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: tennessee
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| Luvnthevapes, Welcome to the forum!!
Ego-t is the same thing as the regular ego just the ego-t has a 5 click protection, and a tank that tends to leak, if you can find the caps that hardly no one sells then it is suppose to eliminate that problem.
If your looking to still utilize the ego I would suggest getting some dual coil cartos. Duals on an ego work for me pretty good.
If you are looking just to get a new unit then I would suggest something with variable voltage. I am not going to suggest one device because everyone is totally different and everyone has different desires or wants. There are so many now to choose from with so many options that it is unreal and it can make your head swim. I have been looking at all of the different variable voltage devices for quite sometime. I have read and read and read till I am blue in the face. I have talked to owners of the top two and I finally last night decided that I found the one that suits me.
That is right you guys I pulled the trigger on the DARWIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I told you guys I would have a variable volt by christmas no later than the first of the year. Well I freeking did it, I purchased it and I am so excited I could pee on myself!! Granted the darwin is a pretty penny, but as I look at it 2 year warranty, 1 year on the battery and I could use it as a pass through if needed. 2 months of analogs is more than the darwin without the coupon. I have already had people tell me if I don't like it they will buy it from me for what I purchased it for. So heck worse case scenario I purchase it decide it is not for me and I pay shipping to send it to someone else. Blah!!
2 weeks I will put up something in the forum about it.
Yeah I know you guys are in probably as much shock as I am. I woke up this morning straight up out of bed and said "I purchased the darwin last night"!! LOL |
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10-09-2011, 05:33 PM
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#25 | | awarded title of Sir Arse Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Louisiana
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| Humco can not claim their Glycerin is Vegatable.
Customer service reps, Quality control managers, have been quoted many times saying "yes it is Vegetable based, all USP Glycerin is vegetable based. Glycerin from animal fats is called Tallow, not Glycerin"
Over and Over someone quotes those quotes.
They are WRONG. Yes it is purified to the levels required to be called USP.
Food Grade seems like it is of less quality but usually is of the same purity and now is required to be tested for the same "bad stuff".
Tanker trucks of technical grade Glycerin are routinely reprocessed into USP Grade.
That's how you get USP Grade, second pass processing.
The HUMCO is pure enough. In fact, I have a 3 year old 177ml bottle with about 170ml left in it  and don't plan on using any more of it. It just didn't taste right to me.
3 to 5 ml of Glycerin will not dehydrate you. If worried, compensate with about 10ml of water
__________________ A good e-juice, fresh carto, and 3.7 volts from a REALLY REALLY BIG battery works for me. YMMV
Originally Posted by Rocketman
...Quasi was right...Once
...OK, Twice...Maybe |
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