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#26 | | Vapeatron Grammar Hammer Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Holding up a lamp post.
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Originally Posted by AWB  LeCig,
Thanks for the idea. It's also possible that I have no real problem with PG, but in using the pre-filled cartridges in my NJOY starter kit, the juice was old, or just crappy juice, or there was very little juice (dried up) in the cart that I tried. Who knows? Not sure. I'm new to all this, so thanks for the advice. | To be honest, when I received my carts that came with my 510, I washed them out, rinsed the batting out, and added my own juice. I've had prefills and I don't approve. Although, some of Volcano's carts aren't bad (their vanilla is pretty good).
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05-13-2011, 05:41 PM
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#27 | | Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: SE Kansas
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| Antifreeze is ethylene glycol, not PG. However, I just went thru HELL with one of my suppliers that started using Chinese nicotine PG/VG mix. Horrible burns and swelling - 3 weeks. Had to take penicillin for 7 days. Mouth so swollen I couldn't eat. The vendor admitted to me over the phone abt using the new Chinese nic mix. Now vaping pinkspot vapors and zee cigs e-liquid. My throat finally healed. Suspect that the chemical burn is from diethylene glycol added to the nic mix. Buyers beware. If the chinese are putting toxic metals in kids jewelry sold at Walmart, why would they care abt their nic/vg/pg mix sold in the USA? It all boils down to greed. I'm NEVER buying cheap e-liquid not USP made in the USA again. Vape safely, Chicopee Quote:
Originally Posted by Hachiroku Wow. I thought I read it the other way around!!! 
I've been using VG to avoid anti-freeze grade PG! Anti-freeze grade PG can emit DEG, a toxin! | | |
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05-13-2011, 08:41 PM
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#28 | | Darth Vaper Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Leftern Mass
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Originally Posted by chicopee Antifreeze is ethylene glycol, not PG. However, I just went thru HELL with one of my suppliers that started using Chinese nicotine PG/VG mix. Horrible burns and swelling - 3 weeks. Had to take penicillin for 7 days. Mouth so swollen I couldn't eat. The vendor admitted to me over the phone abt using the new Chinese nic mix. Now vaping pinkspot vapors and zee cigs e-liquid. My throat finally healed. Suspect that the chemical burn is from diethylene glycol added to the nic mix. Buyers beware. If the chinese are putting toxic metals in kids jewelry sold at Walmart, why would they care abt their nic/vg/pg mix sold in the USA? It all boils down to greed. I'm NEVER buying cheap e-liquid not USP made in the USA again. Vape safely, Chicopee | HiRezL and I went over this in your absence. PG is used more and more in modern cooling systems because it doesn't corrode the coils from within, making the cooling system last longer and more efficient.
Yeah, anybody who puts lead paint in kid's toys is on my "watch list", for sure. That's why I use Vt Vapor 99% of the time....
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05-14-2011, 04:27 AM
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#29 | | Vape me baby! Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Tonganoxie, KS
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| I don't trust any of the Terran fluids, I'm sticking with Martian suppliers from now on!
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05-14-2011, 06:29 PM
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#30 | | ☆amante del drago☆ Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Other side of sanity
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Originally Posted by chicopee Antifreeze is ethylene glycol, not PG. However, I just went thru HELL with one of my suppliers that started using Chinese nicotine PG/VG mix. Horrible burns and swelling - 3 weeks. Had to take penicillin for 7 days. Mouth so swollen I couldn't eat. The vendor admitted to me over the phone abt using the new Chinese nic mix. Now vaping pinkspot vapors and zee cigs e-liquid. My throat finally healed. Suspect that the chemical burn is from diethylene glycol added to the nic mix. Buyers beware. If the chinese are putting toxic metals in kids jewelry sold at Walmart, why would they care abt their nic/vg/pg mix sold in the USA? It all boils down to greed. I'm NEVER buying cheap e-liquid not USP made in the USA again. Vape safely, Chicopee | That is awful. Hope you are doing better now.
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05-15-2011, 08:10 PM
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#31 | | Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Arkansas
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| Hey Chicopee, you know our vapriot liquids are 100% US sourced right?
Lots of folks out there importing chineese vg/pg and nic and just mixing it here.
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05-15-2011, 11:45 PM
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#32 | | Banned Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: missouri
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Originally Posted by LeCig Hey Chicopee, you know our vapriot liquids are 100% US sourced right?
Lots of folks out there importing chineese vg/pg and nic and just mixing it here.
I think you like the vapriot stuff | Roger that! | |
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11-01-2011, 09:58 PM
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#33 | | Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: North Carolina/ Miami, Florida
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Originally Posted by AWB Hello All,
I've introduced myself on the Official "Introduce Yourself" Thread, but I'm creating another post to express my newbie issues here (as this seems to be the protocol on this forum).
I've been a smoker for 8 years. For the last couple of years I've been smoking around a half-pack of ultra lights per day. I found out about e-cigarettes, and decided to give it a shot. I picked up the NJOY NPRO (RN-4081) starter pack yesterday.
I've spent several hours looking through this forum and familiarizing myself with its contents, but I still have some unanswered questions about vaping. So my apologies in advance if these questions have already been addressed in other posts:
------------------------------------------------------------------------ 1.  In my first day of vaping, I developed a severely swollen throat. The lymph glands in my neck became really swollen, my throat tightened up and ached severely, and it became difficult to swallow. These are normally the symptoms of me getting really sick, as in mononucleosis. Extremely uncomfortable and distressing. Here I am almost 24 hours since I last used my NPRO and my throat is STILL constricted. I read somewhere on this forum that some users may have an allergic reaction to the propylene glycol used as the base of the cartridge fluid. Has anyone else experienced these side-effects? If so, is this the result of an allergic reaction to PG? Would I eliminate these side-effects if I vaped using Vegetable Glycerin? Am I vaping my NPRO in an incorrect manner, and simply changing my vaping methods will remove or reduce the throat constriction? Or is this side-effect something that one's throat simply becomes accustomed to and reduces overtime as you get used to the practice of vaping?
------------------------------------------------------------------------ 2. In my first day of vaping, I used a "Light" traditional flavored cartridge that came in the starter pack. I've got to say, it tasted TERRIBLE. The aftertaste was of some sort of toxic plastic lingering in my mouth. Not in the slightest way pleasant. I read somewhere in this forum that this could be the result of using a new atomizer (clearly I was using a new atomizer), since atomizers have a chemical coating of sorts which burns off after a few uses, thereby eliminating the nasty "plastic" taste. Is this the case with the NPRO? I haven't used it very heavily in the first day, but the nasty taste does not seem to go away at all.
------------------------------------------------------------------------ 3.  I understand that you can purchase new cartridges (or juices) in different nicotine concentrations roughly equivalent to a full-flavor cigarette, lights, ultra-lights, and zero-nicotine. Based on your experiences with vaping, would I be better off using an "ultra-light" cartridge or juice, since I have been smoking ultra-light analogs almost exclusively for several years? I guess my real question is this - how close to analogs are the vaping equivalents? Is an ultra-light cartridge really like an ultra-light analog, or are they weaker than the analog?
Well, unless I can get some relief from my severely constricted throat and that terrible plastic taste, I don't see much of a future in vaping for me. Thanks in advance for any feedback you kind folks can provide. |
It sounds to me like you are DANGEROUSLY allergic to something in the e-juice. You did the right thing by stopping. It sounds like Anaphylactic Shock!
A history of asthma or allergies can make a person more susceptible to anaphylactic reaction, which can produce many symptoms (flushed or pale skin, rapid pulse), possibly leading to anaphylactic shock. And if you have had an anaphylactic reaction before, the next reaction is likely to be worse than the first.
Anaphylactic shock ***which CAN BE FATAL ***is the serious reaction that is experienced when an individual comes into contact (for the second time) with an antigen that has produced an allergic reaction in them once before.
Symptoms: The affected individual can exhibit any number of symptoms that can include skin reactions, respiratory symptoms, cardiovascular changes, digestive disruptions, and even fainting and dizziness. In addition, symptoms can progress to the point of causing death (breathing cessation, heart stops beating), if immediate medical attention is not sought when the symptoms worsen.
Skin Reaction Symptoms: While some symptoms may not occur with anaphylaxis, skin reactions generally do, according to the Mayo Clinic. These reactions can consist of hives---on the face or the body, or both---itching, pale skin, or flushed skin.
Respiratory Symptoms: One of the more dangerous symptoms, breathing difficulties and closing air passageways, can be life-threatening if emergency medical attention is not sought immediately. Sometimes this begins with swelling of the face, throat, tongue, or lips. However, if swelling continues, or is decreasing air flow in any way, seek emergency medical assistance or call 911.
Cardiovascular Symptoms: A racing pulse is also a possible symptom of an allergic reaction. But a low pulse can be one too, and may prove more serious, since it can lead to the heart actually stopping altogether. Fainting and dizziness can occur due to heartbeat and pulse rate changes after an allergic reaction.
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11-01-2011, 10:05 PM
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#34 | | spam again bacon ass Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Not China
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| check the date in the upper left of the post..thats was from a while ago... 
a few people have allergic reaction to PG
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11-01-2011, 11:27 PM
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#35 | | Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: North Carolina/ Miami, Florida
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Originally Posted by berger check the date in the upper left of the post..thats was from a while ago...
a few people have allergic reaction to PG | Whoops!  I keep forgetting that some of these are old posts!
But: This could happen to someone else, so maybe it's good to have the information out there!
I can remember a time when I had no knowledge of Pathologies, when I would not have had a clue!
It seems that she hadn't a clue either, or she would've been asking an MD! | |
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11-01-2011, 11:46 PM
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#36 | | Hypervaporation in effect Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Deep in the Heart of the greatest state in the Union
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11-02-2011, 12:47 AM
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#37 | | Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: North Carolina/ Miami, Florida
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Originally Posted by wetwire work it! | Hey there wetwire! How's the vapes?! I'm workn'!
I should be workn' on something else! ( Don't feel like studying!)
Since I got my new e-cig (love the manual battery) with a stronger mega-size 78 mm battery that makes my e-juice taste so much better, I've also been workn' on finding some more vapors, a few different companies and a few different flavors.  Jay e-mailed me to let me know the battery is protected from over-charging! I'm waiting for my pass-through (got out the electric cord for the USB Hub so I do not sizzle my mother [board].)
I got a couple of drip tips (first time using). I like them a lot for at home.
I prefer the cartomizers for out & about. I fill a couple and I'm ready to go!
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#38 | | Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Arkansas
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Originally Posted by berger check the date in the upper left of the post..thats was from a while ago...
a few people have allergic reaction to PG | I've seen this several times over the years we've been selling ecigs ... it is the PG most likely, 3 out of 100 have an allergic reaction to it... I would recommed trying 100% VG and see if this does not correct it. | |
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11-02-2011, 01:35 PM
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#39 | | TO SERVE AND PROTECT :) Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Louisiana
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Originally Posted by LeCig I've seen this several times over the years we've been selling ecigs ... it is the PG most likely, 3 out of 100 have an allergic reaction to it... I would recommed trying 100% VG and see if this does not correct it. | Mike,
The VG helps, but if you're vaping the plastic that will give you a Throat Punch for sure.
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11-02-2011, 01:38 PM
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#40 | | Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: In Your Dreams
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| Yep, plastic is gross. When it starts tasting like firecrackers it's time to refill or toss the carto. IMO | |
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11-02-2011, 03:14 PM
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#41 | | Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Arkansas
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Originally Posted by Rocketman Mike,
The VG helps, but if you're vaping the plastic that will give you a Throat Punch for sure. | I concur with that. Some of those old bridge attys and the plastic cartridges can taste quiet nasty imo.
That is why I stick with the 2 piece sys. | |
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11-02-2011, 03:56 PM
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#42 | | TO SERVE AND PROTECT :) Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Louisiana
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| Don't some of the old pre-filled cartridges have a seal over them?
I never bought any "NJOY" stuff.
and how many folks do you think "Vaped" the Dummy cartridge in kits
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11-02-2011, 06:33 PM
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#43 | | Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: North Carolina/ Miami, Florida
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11-02-2011, 06:34 PM
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#44 | | Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: In Your Dreams
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Originally Posted by mg7454 About 70% LOL! | That's funny!!!  | |
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11-02-2011, 07:19 PM
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#45 | | Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: North Carolina/ Miami, Florida
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| Hello Angle!
You see, Rose, I just cannot help myself! It's fun to be funny! | |
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11-02-2011, 09:16 PM
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#46 | | Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: In Your Dreams
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Originally Posted by mg7454 Hello Angle!
You see, Rose, I just cannot help myself! It's fun to be funny! | I try to be funny,but sometimes fall short! | |
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11-02-2011, 09:38 PM
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#47 | | Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: North Carolina/ Miami, Florida
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Originally Posted by Rose I try to be funny,but sometimes fall short! | Rose, I'm sorry for what I'm about to say, but you know I have an uncontrolled sense of humor, so:
Oh, s__t! A short fallen angel! | |
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11-02-2011, 09:44 PM
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#48 | | Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: In Your Dreams
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Originally Posted by mg7454 Rose, I'm sorry for what I'm about to say, but you know I have an uncontrolled sense of humor, so:
Oh, s__t! A short fallen angel! | I'm not a fallen angel! I'm going to be an angel some day!  | |
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#49 | | Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: North Carolina/ Miami, Florida
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Originally Posted by Rose I'm not a fallen angel! I'm going to be an angel some day! | Honey, you are already and Angel! | |
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#50 | | ☆amante del drago☆ Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Other side of sanity
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Originally Posted by Rose I'm not a fallen angel! I'm going to be an angel some day! | With a dented halo like mine
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