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05-09-2012, 01:50 AM
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#1 | | Junior Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: Beijing
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| what is a safe electronic cigarette like? the battery? the liquid? the material of electrnoic cigarette ? Or the cotton in e-cigarette?
Most of the people care about the vapor, the taste and the battery! Do you know if the e-cigarette material or cotton is not safe it would product harm substance when it is under high temperature! | 
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05-09-2012, 01:55 AM
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#2 | | Vapezilla Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: yonder.... going down right
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Originally Posted by GreencigFactory  what is a safe electronic cigarette like? the battery? the liquid? the material of electrnoic cigarette ? Or the cotton in e-cigarette?
Most of the people care about the vapor, the taste and the battery! Do you know if the e-cigarette material or cotton is not safe it would product harm substance when it is under high temperature! | No make no sense!! Sorry but I don't go around tasting batteries and I don't vape cotton! | |
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05-09-2012, 01:57 AM
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#3 | | Super Cool Guy Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: British Columbia, Canada
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| mmmmmmmm, cotton. | |
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05-09-2012, 02:00 AM
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#4 | | Vapezilla Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: yonder.... going down right
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| Gives new meaning to cotton mouth  | |
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05-09-2012, 02:11 AM
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#5 | | Junior Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: Beijing
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| You know there are two importand part about the safty of the e-cig. One is the cartomizer material and the other is the liquid! As it know to all, many things would produce harmful substance when it under high temperature so the cartoizer material and the liquid should be safe! !! When you buy e-cigarette please pay attention to the certification and make sure you have safe e-cigarette! Or you can go back to use the normal cigarette!  Quote:
Originally Posted by RY4 Gives new meaning to cotton mouth | | |
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05-09-2012, 04:16 AM
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#6 | | Super Cool Guy Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: British Columbia, Canada
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Originally Posted by RY4 Gives new meaning to cotton mouth | Your avatars are on another level! | |
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05-09-2012, 11:13 AM
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#7 | | VAPINsinc89! Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Minnesnowta
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Originally Posted by GreencigFactory ...Or you can go back to use the normal cigarette! | I've NEVER checked if my PV was "certified" before purchase- So you say I should go back to Normal Cigarettes?
F.U. (Not sure what it means in China, but I'm sure you can figure it out!)
I come up here to find info on PV safety, Liquid Safety, Battery Safety, but most important is SUPPORT!
If I wanted someone to tell me to go back to regular Cigs, I'd stop and see my mom in the hospital, as she gasps for breath because she smoked regular cigarettes her whole life.
You ever come up and tell any of us to go back to regular smokes, and I will personally ban you!
We need support, not YOU! So go back to your Regular Cigs and leave the REAL Vapors alone.
(BTW- We call them PV's - NOT E-Cigs!)
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05-09-2012, 11:49 AM
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#8 | | New Title of Lord Arse :) Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Louisiana
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| Must have lost something in translation. Vaping safety does include the materials used in cartomizers. Vaping plastic vapors (the cotton like stuff in cartos) could kill you in a year or two. Tobacco takes longer.
Brilliant vapors have tried all kinds of modifications to the e-cig system it's a small wonder some haven't died already.
Replacing fuzzy filler material with Fluval
(The soft down from the belly of the Himalayan Fluval, an endangered species)
Brass tubing for bottom feeders
(Lead or Cadmium is typically used, in other countries, to aid in drawing small diameter tubing)
Plastic straws in cartridges to aid in wicking
(discard if the end melts)
Washing out cartos so you don't see the discolored filler.
Bashing spammers, just because they are spammers
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A good e-juice, fresh carto, and 3.7 volts from a REALLY BIG battery works for me.
Smoores, finger lickin good
Nic Juice, Pop Tarts and NATO Ammo, that's where my money's at
SI VIS PACEM PARA BELLUM
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05-09-2012, 12:36 PM
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#9 | | Mega Old-Fart Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Maryland
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Originally Posted by Rocketman Must have lost something in translation. Vaping safety does include the materials used in cartomizers. Vaping plastic vapors (the cotton like stuff in cartos) could kill you in a year or two. Tobacco takes longer.
Brilliant vapors have tried all kinds of modifications to the e-cig system it's a small wonder some haven't died already.
Replacing fuzzy filler material with Fluval
(The soft down from the belly of the Himalayan Fluval, an endangered species)
Brass tubing for bottom feeders
(Lead or Cadmium is typically used, in other countries, to aid in drawing small diameter tubing)
Plastic straws in cartridges to aid in wicking
(discard if the end melts)
Washing out cartos so you don't see the discolored filler.
Bashing spammers, just because they are spammers | Interesting thread on the 'big' board about good, sterile cotton gauze working very nicely for wick & filler material.
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05-09-2012, 01:10 PM
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#10 | | New Title of Lord Arse :) Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Louisiana
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| How about a few percent water in a PG/VG mix?
The water binds with the PG/VG, reduces their boiling point, reduces the temperature of the heater by transferring more heat energy to the vaper stream. Without at least a little water the ingredient are anhydrous and more prone to chemical breakdown/recombination.
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A good e-juice, fresh carto, and 3.7 volts from a REALLY BIG battery works for me.
Smoores, finger lickin good
Nic Juice, Pop Tarts and NATO Ammo, that's where my money's at
SI VIS PACEM PARA BELLUM | |
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05-09-2012, 01:11 PM
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#11 | | Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Florida
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Originally Posted by WyldRice I've NEVER checked if my PV was "certified" before purchase- So you say I should go back to Normal Cigarettes?
F.U. (Not sure what it means in China, but I'm sure you can figure it out!)
I come up here to find info on PV safety, Liquid Safety, Battery Safety, but most important is SUPPORT!
If I wanted someone to tell me to go back to regular Cigs, I'd stop and see my mom in the hospital, as she gasps for breath because she smoked regular cigarettes her whole life.
You ever come up and tell any of us to go back to regular smokes, and I will personally ban you!
We need support, not YOU! So go back to your Regular Cigs and leave the REAL Vapors alone.
(BTW- We call them PV's - NOT E-Cigs!) | I'm with ya Wyld! real cigs gave me-2 forms of emphysema & chronic bronchitis! Like you, my kids watch me gasp for breath and face going red than purple. They watched me go from sept working 12+ hours a day, coming home cooking, cleaning, doing laundry and taking care of them & my animals to since october I cant sweep floors without gasping, getting purple faced and having to take frequent breaks since I get dizzy! My kids 19 & 11 have both commented about feart of me dying, if you read my interview I posted my kids comments are in there.
No Thank you, I'll take my chances with pv's - especially since my pulmonary specialist & pri care think its a great way to hopefully slow the progression of my emphysemas and keep me around to see my 11yr old become a man. | |
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05-09-2012, 02:15 PM
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#12 | | VAPINsinc89! Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Minnesnowta
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Originally Posted by Deztai I'm with ya Wyld! real cigs gave me-2 forms of emphysema & chronic bronchitis! Like you, my kids watch me gasp for breath and face going red than purple. They watched me go from sept working 12+ hours a day, coming home cooking, cleaning, doing laundry and taking care of them & my animals to since october I cant sweep floors without gasping, getting purple faced and having to take frequent breaks since I get dizzy! My kids 19 & 11 have both commented about feart of me dying, if you read my interview I posted my kids comments are in there.
No Thank you, I'll take my chances with pv's - especially since my pulmonary specialist & pri care think its a great way to hopefully slow the progression of my emphysemas and keep me around to see my 11yr old become a man. | Amen Sista!
We need each other to keep AWAY from cigs!
Lest we forget?
KEEP VAPIN!
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05-09-2012, 03:33 PM
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#13 | | Vapezilla Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: yonder.... going down right
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Originally Posted by GreencigFactory You know there are two importand part about the safty of the e-cig. One is the cartomizer material and the other is the liquid! As it know to all, many things would produce harmful substance when it under high temperature so the cartoizer material and the liquid should be safe! !! When you buy e-cigarette please pay attention to the certification and make sure you have safe e-cigarette! Or you can go back to use the normal cigarette! | OMG! I honestly can't believe you would even suggest such a thing!! Certification???? You mean certification from China?? Blahahaha. Your a class A jerk!  | |
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05-09-2012, 04:14 PM
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#14 | | Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Florida
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| lmao, love it Ry4 | |
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05-09-2012, 04:15 PM
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#15 | | In Science We Trust Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Tonganoxie, KS
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Originally Posted by Deztai They watched me go from sept working 12+ hours a day, coming home cooking, cleaning, doing laundry and taking care of them & my animals to since october I cant sweep floors without gasping, getting purple faced and having to take frequent breaks since I get dizzy! | I'm interested in what improvement you've seen over the weeks since you started vaping exclusively . . . any better?
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05-09-2012, 04:25 PM
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#16 | | VAPINsinc89! Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Minnesnowta
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Originally Posted by RY4 OMG! I honestly can't believe you would even suggest such a thing!! Certification???? You mean certification from China?? Blahahaha. Your a class A jerk! | lol CERTIFIED!
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05-09-2012, 04:42 PM
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#17 | | Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Florida
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| my lungs dont have the pain they had before. I vape my juice kind of cooler - it feels better in my lungs than the heat from tobacco cigarettes. COnsidering my nebulizer is vaporized medicine, my lungs do seem happier with vaping=) WIth the tobacco cigarettes Id cough when I inhaled, I dont get that with vaping.
Oct-March I was on prednisone nearly non stop, wean down a week later I would have bad flare and be right back on it. In March or early april my doc added another inhaler-steroid based as well as a MUCH better (triple what I was on before) medication for my nebulizer, I'm also on 2 other steroid based inhalers plus a steroid nasal spray to keep allergies in control so they dont aggravate the lung issue. Lets say I'm a walking steroid haha. Last week doc visit and the one 2 weeks before-my lungs are flaring, BUT not as bad as thay had been in the past few months but they are starting. I'm not sure if the new inhaler addition & the new neb med is whats kept me off prednisone since march/april or a combination of the new meds with vaping and avoiding tobacco cigarettes. I know my face does not get as purple now, which makes me think my carboxyhemoglobulin levels are alot lower which is good. Also means oxygen is getting to the brain again hehe, doc said my purple & red face, dizzyness is because of lack of oxygen-blood was carrying carboxyhemoglobulin vs oxygen enriched blood before, first place to show signs and I guess the place where oxygen is harder to reach is brain-up -gravity? anyway, with this new flare we are watching it closely, no prednisone yet just do my nebulizer treatments every 4 hours. He's afriad to prescribe prednisone now I am on so many steroid inhalers and this flare isnt that bad. Which is a good sign, considering that exacerbation in october seemed to last until end of march/april.
I live in fl high humidity & pollen counts(big enemy for copd/emphysema)-my breathing ability & energy level seems to vary day by day. I do notice some improvement with vaping vs when I smoked tobacco cigarettes, but I think I need more time vaping to really see more benefit. After all I smoked tobacco cigarettes for 27 years-my emphysemas are moderate borderline severe-so I think its going to take some time to see the real benefits of vaping. Overall, I do see some benefits in vaping in just this short period since I gave up the tobacco cigarettes, just a matter of more time to really see the full benefits.
I just wish I learned about pv's, e-cigs, vaping etc...10 years ago. I might not have my emphysemas now if I did. | |
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05-09-2012, 08:52 PM
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#18 | | Junior Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: Beijing
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| OMG！I did not mean that! I just want to you to notice the safty of the electronic cigarette! Just Image if your e cig is not safe it is like normal cigarette that can only harm u! If I said sth wrong, hope you understand me since my first language is no English. But I do hope everyone here could enjoy vape and health life! Quote:
Originally Posted by WyldRice I've NEVER checked if my PV was "certified" before purchase- So you say I should go back to Normal Cigarettes?
F.U. (Not sure what it means in China, but I'm sure you can figure it out!)
I come up here to find info on PV safety, Liquid Safety, Battery Safety, but most important is SUPPORT!
If I wanted someone to tell me to go back to regular Cigs, I'd stop and see my mom in the hospital, as she gasps for breath because she smoked regular cigarettes her whole life.
You ever come up and tell any of us to go back to regular smokes, and I will personally ban you!
We need support, not YOU! So go back to your Regular Cigs and leave the REAL Vapors alone.
(BTW- We call them PV's - NOT E-Cigs!) | | |
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05-09-2012, 09:02 PM
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#19 | | Mr. DragOn Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: yonder...upright
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| OK Greenie...while were on the subject its- safety with an "e"..  .
thanks for clearing that up..we dont promote "analogs"..in fact we make you eat them if we catch you with them..
Hey RY..is that the new prototype Wizard Labs FVR bear...nice..
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05-09-2012, 09:04 PM
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#20 | | Junior Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: Beijing
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| You got the point ! Quote:
Originally Posted by Rocketman Must have lost something in translation. Vaping safety does include the materials used in cartomizers. Vaping plastic vapors (the cotton like stuff in cartos) could kill you in a year or two. Tobacco takes longer.
Brilliant vapors have tried all kinds of modifications to the e-cig system it's a small wonder some haven't died already.
Replacing fuzzy filler material with Fluval
(The soft down from the belly of the Himalayan Fluval, an endangered species)
Brass tubing for bottom feeders
(Lead or Cadmium is typically used, in other countries, to aid in drawing small diameter tubing)
Plastic straws in cartridges to aid in wicking
(discard if the end melts)
Washing out cartos so you don't see the discolored filler.
Bashing spammers, just because they are spammers | | |
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05-09-2012, 09:08 PM
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#21 | | Vapezilla Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: yonder.... going down right
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Originally Posted by GreencigFactory OMG！I did not mean that! I just want to you to notice the safty of the electronic cigarette! Just Image if your e cig is not safe it is like normal cigarette that can only harm u! If I said sth wrong, hope you understand me since my first language is no English. But I do hope everyone here could enjoy vape and health life! | Translation is a witch isn't it
We don't take to kindly to going back to smoking here, we will do, try, nearly anything to stay off them. So glad ya cleared that up there and yes safety with an "e" is very important and we have many nice threads with such info located. And yeah... what Berger said. Welcome to the forum and your first initiation. | |
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05-09-2012, 09:10 PM
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#22 | | Vapezilla Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: yonder.... going down right
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Originally Posted by berger OK Greenie...while were on the subject its- safety with an "e".. .
thanks for clearing that up..we dont promote "analogs"..in fact we make you eat them if we catch you with them..
Hey RY..is that the new prototype Wizard Labs FVR bear...nice.. | Why yes, you like??? It sucks up those nasty opinions and sends them out in wonderful FVR compliments of Wizard Labs. | |
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05-09-2012, 09:11 PM
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#23 | | Twinkle Toes Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: In the corner out of the grip
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Originally Posted by GreencigFactory You got the point ! | Um, you're ADMITTING you're spamming the forum?!?!? http://www.megawavs.com/play.aspx?id=2047 | |
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05-09-2012, 09:13 PM
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#24 | | Twinkle Toes Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: In the corner out of the grip
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Originally Posted by GreencigFactory what is a safe electronic cigarette like? the battery? the liquid? the material of electrnoic cigarette ? Or the cotton in e-cigarette?
Most of the people care about the vapor, the taste and the battery! Do you know if the e-cigarette material or cotton is not safe it would product harm substance when it is under high temperature! | 1. Say Sayonara to this thread...it is taking a trip to the Supplier's Hype section where it belongs.
2. If you start posting BS in the forum again, just to place you spam around, say Sayonara yourself. | |
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05-09-2012, 09:16 PM
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#25 | | Vapezilla Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: yonder.... going down right
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| No he admitted he was trying to talk about PV safety but it came out wrong, don't see anything being sold or hyped so don't get why should be in supplier hype???? | |
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