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Old 01-07-2012, 08:47 AM   #1
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I find this response an admission of U.S. mentality to make money regardless of the safety of postal workers, package handlers, customs agents, etc.

How could a conscientious vendor, employer of Americans, Veteran of Foreign Wars, conduct a business like this?

Then complain about someone questioning the receipt of an improperly labeled product (or maybe stopped at a foreign border and confiscated and the customer did a charge back) and threatening to stop the illegal foreign shipments? Calling them STUPID?

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I find this response an admission of U.S. mentality to make money regardless of the safety of postal workers, package handlers, customs agents, etc.

How could a conscientious vendor, employer of Americans, Veteran of Foreign Wars, conduct a business like this?

Then complain about someone questioning the receipt of an improperly labeled product and threatening to stop the illegal shipments? Calling them STUPID?

George C. Scott strikes again
HA!. Talk about the pot and the kettle
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Old 01-07-2012, 09:35 AM   #3
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why am I not surprised....Great...nice job
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Old 01-07-2012, 11:45 AM   #4
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If the international shipment isn't labeled as NICOTINE, I wonder what is put on the Custom's Declaration? Since the 100mg/ml e-juice is only 10% Nicotine you don't have to specify the "minority" ingredients.
CONTENTS: Vegetable Glycerin, 90%
What does the VISA charge show up as on the customers bill?
When you do something like this, do you really keep records of shipping Nicotine to all these countries? That sounds like a big risk to me.
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Old 01-07-2012, 09:50 PM   #5
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Wow... just wow.
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Old 01-08-2012, 06:06 PM   #6
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This makes me wonder if I should discontinue my radioactive ricin-based explosive shipments to Latvia. Sooner or later, some dummy is going to refuse my shipment, just because it's labeled "baby milk". That could cost me several minutes of inconvenience.

Some people just have to ruin it for everyone.
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Old 01-08-2012, 06:10 PM   #7
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If Latvia Customs (do they have a customs dept?) seized the shipment, would you still expect the customer to pay for it?

You should have identified the contents as "all natural, anti-itch powder, long lasting"?


Baby milk? everyone knows most of that is tainted.
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Old 01-08-2012, 06:24 PM   #8
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and you guys know what usually happens to my threads, right?

Here it is:
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Old 01-08-2012, 07:04 PM   #9
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When you do something like this, do you really keep records of illegally falsifying official customs documents? That sounds like a big risk to me.
FIXED.

A VERY fitting quote from the Aussie Vapor's forum on unlabeled shipments of RTS nic to oz.
http://forums.aussievapers.com/showt...from-RTS-Vapes
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Stupid, irresponsible and bad for the industry. I don't care what they write on the customs form but to not even label the nic juice is crazy.
What happens when a bottle of 100mg/ml (or stronger) gets damaged and leaks all over the postal workers or other mail, and there's nothing on the label to identify the contents or appropriate safety/ medical/cleanup requirements?

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and you guys know what usually happens to my threads, right?

Here it is:
Google is spying on you, man... Ghaaaa, it's on my Google, too!

Ever since I clicked a link to find out what "halal home lending" is all about, I see nothing but ads for halal home loans. I'm not even a Muslim, honest!! I was just curious!

Now I only use Google to search about Jesus and patriotic songs.
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Old 01-08-2012, 07:34 PM   #11
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FIXED.

What happens when a bottle of 100mg/ml (or stronger) gets damaged and leaks all over the postal workers or other mail, and there's nothing on the label to identify the contents or appropriate safety/ medical/cleanup requirements?
That's when you set up another LLC to do "order fulfillment" and drop the packages off at a private mailing processor.
Have them rip the labels off just before sealing up the package.
Then you just have to trust the "Lead Chemist" at Stampsdotcom to get it right

International sales? VAT declarations? USPS or Customs regulations?
Low chance of getting caught. I mean the agencies involved even make it next to impossible to report.

At least the "charge backs" will be allowed as "business losses".

I wonder what a self preservation Ad Hoc e-juice vendor organization would think about this?
OR,
are all you guys only interested in the bottom line?

Note to some vendors: Please do not take offense to the above statement. You "Good Guys" know who you are


As soon as some of the staff on the other (cough cough) forum get wind of this thread I'll probably get another permanent ban
I've already pulled down all the graphics I could so they can't block me from my own photos. Got warnings about posting so many MODS
If I was a "Supporting Member" I could probably get away with more.
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That's when you set up another LLC to do "order fulfillment" and drop the packages off at a private mailing processor.
Have them rip the labels off just before sealing up the package.
Then you just have to trust the "Lead Chemist" at Stampsdotcom to get it right
Sounds like somebody's not only secretly embraced Chinese nic, but Chinese business practices as well.
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Google is spying on you, man... Ghaaaa, it's on my Google, too!

Ever since I clicked a link to find out what "halal home lending" is all about, I see nothing but ads for halal home loans. I'm not even a Muslim, honest!! I was just curious!

Now I only use Google to search about Jesus and patriotic songs.
I've been looking for a new camera. EVERYWHERE I go that has ANYTHING to do with Google is throwing Nikons in my face.

Usually a D90 or a D300, so I guess it's not too bad afterall!
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