spikeychops

Hi all,

Looking to build a battery mod with an *all* mechanical design...something along the lines of 'the copper' would be nice.

Haven't a clue how to achieve the switch design though...and a little worried about a couple of amps potentially running through the wife or myself if i get it wrong!

(not too bad, as the wife is insured! ;-))

Anyone seen any posts on your travels through the modding forums about mechanical (non electric) push button switches?

I have been browsing around e-cig forums and can't find any how to's or instructions about making a switch and how it functions anywhere.

i.e...does the switch contact the negative (ground) or positive (power)? How to physically install such a switch etc. etc.

I might be missing the obvious, but i can't find any info..every switch thread i've seen is all about mini electric switches.

Cheers all.

quasimod

I've been thinking along these lines as well. Very interested. I am very fond of the switch Imeo makes for the large GG's. There may be video of them around somewhere, but I don't think he posted any drawings. It's basically a spring-tensioned plunger making connection to a center post with a spring touching the negative end of the battery. The newer model switch uses opposing magnets instead of a spring. Hard for me to describe, but simple to understand if you see it. If I get the chance I'll make a rough drawing (I'm on the road now, using my phone).

40bikes

Chops, welcome to the forum.
I know you were talking about building something but don't ignore ready made stuff out there. (I assume you didn't carve your personal groomer from a tree trunk)
Movapor made an 18650 battery mod from some plumbint and the atomiser and button caps from an SP2 from sparkplugforsmokers.com. $6 for each capand probably $8 worth of copper parts. Search archive for "fuse" thread.

romaniac

try this one

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Steampunk

Yes. Do you have these?

romaniac

No, but I am working on that. Give me some time!

spikeychops

HI and thanks for that Quasimod.

The 'using magnets for the switch' thing sounds interesting.

And yeah, the GG (lovely looking devices) line's switch is the sort of thing i'd like to have on a 'copper' clone.

Cheers.

spikeychops

Thanks Romaniac, that's the sort of thing!

Although, the switch in the drawing seems to have a plastic cap..any idea how the metal buttoned switches work without the current going through the switch (and the user pressing it)?

I have a nagging feeling i'm missing something elementary here..i get that KISS is the best way to approach these things, but i always seem to overthink these things..perhaps a simple leaf switch type of thing would be better?

It should be a lot easier.

A pair of separated (open) leaf spring contacts, both positive (the neg being the metal body) closed by a spring loaded plunger (with a plastic or silicone bottom/contact point?)
is what i'm thinking. The less engineering, the better for me.

Cheers for posting.

romaniac

Maybe here will look a lot more clear there are 3 parts not including the button and the red spring. the blue part of the button the top is plastic/rubber the bottom is metal. Does it really look complicated? Simple and durable is my position. I am sorry that is not what you had in mind . I will think of something and I will let you know.

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spikeychops

Thank you Romaniac,

That's very helpful.

I hope you were not offended by my reply, i didn't intend any disrespect.

I think it's a wonderful design you have, but i don't think i could build it with just the simple tools i have.

The plastic/rubber part looks like it needs to be turned on a lathe, as does the threaded metal section...just out of my league really, as i don't have the required tooling to do that (unfortunately), if i did, i would have a go at your design.

I am very grateful to you for taking the trouble to post the designs for me though, thanks very much mate.

Cheers.

romaniac

Absolutely no offence taken. this is an constructive conversation. We share a common interest.

Ace hardware has a small section where you can get brass and steel tubes from 1 mm to about 14 mm OD and also plastic spacers. This design was made with those in mind. No special tools required .

Romaniac

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berger

@ Romaniac.. how do you retain the rivet?

romaniac

did not draw the tube that contains the nylon spacer. give me a second

berger

Sorry..not trying to make work for you..was just curious how it was supposed to stay in place..Now I look the previous drawing I understand....
What are you using to make those drawings with?

romaniac

this better?

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romaniac

Google sketchup

romaniac

it is fun not work!

berger

that is a sweat set up with google sketch up..on another modders forum they were storing the drawings of various components for others to pull from that also..

Steampunk

That's the key! Most of the time my job is fun.

quasimod

Google SketchUp is pretty cool, especially for free software. I'm slowly working my way through the tutorial videos, as time permits, and my interest fluctuates.

Dhileas

I enjoyed it, but I ultimately went back to 3D Studio Max 9. (cracked)

romaniac

It took a while but now I can get 95% parts in 3d fast. I love it

quasimod

It's easier to figure out (at least the basics) than anything else I've played with. I imagine a whole lot more stuff is possible with 3DSM, though. When I win the lottery, I'll hire a 3DSM tutor, lol.

Steampunk

I'm a little leery of ANYTHING Google! Big Brother is watching!

movapor

So, Steam, you think Big Brother only watches Google? Betcha 10 bucks they watch this board and everything else on the net. Someone is watching this board for illegal activity (drugs), and I bet they are doing studies to figure out how to tax vaping. I bet they are doing calculations based on estimates of how many people vape, how much they vape, and what the associated costs are. You watch, there will be special taxes on the flavoring, pg, vg, everything.