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05-16-2012, 03:20 PM
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#1 | | Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Atlanta, GA
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| OK, I decided it was time to try a tank out, so I ordered one to give it a shot. If I can extend the time in between fill ups, I'll try it. However, I have one question for those of you who already use tanks. Do you find certain pg/vg ratios work better than others? I would think that if the liquid is too thick, it would have a tough time making through the hole into the carto? Experienced users have any suggestions? |
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05-16-2012, 03:21 PM
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#2 | | Mr. DragOn Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: yonder...upright
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| I make the hole slightly larger then stock with 90% plus VG
also sticking a paper clip in to the filling through the hole about 1/16" or so will help a slow wicking one Ive found...giving it a bit more surface contact area to wick from
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05-16-2012, 03:25 PM
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#3 | | Shane Johnson Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: St. Augustine, FL
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| I usually start off with a 60vg/40pg blend... but after a couple of weeks, if the juice gets thick; I'll add a few drops of PG as needed. Just depends on how it wicks... Start thicker and work down. |
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05-16-2012, 03:45 PM
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#4 | | Designer/Manufacturer Join Date: May 2012 Location: New York
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| The key is patience to let the thicker VG to soak in the batt material
Also fill cart before tank
Once everything is wet the capilary action will work but a bit slower |
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05-16-2012, 03:50 PM
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#5 | | Mr. DragOn Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: yonder...upright
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| Yes..have to fill it prior for sure with thick VG mixes..I condom fill the bottom and drip the top after installing in tank and fill and go..only takes a minute or so and im good to go
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05-16-2012, 04:15 PM
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#6 | | Chemically insane Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: georgia
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| I fill tank then cover holes on bottom and dry suck liquid into carto. When top is wet it's ready. Takes about a minute and ready to go. I use 50/50 or higher vg and have great luck with the three hole cartos. Gonna drill some of my own soon. |
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05-16-2012, 05:47 PM
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#7 | | Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Atlanta, GA
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| Thanks for all the advice. It's just that these things don't come with instruction manuals. |
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05-16-2012, 06:43 PM
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#8 | | Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Waterman, IL
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| In my limited experiences, there are variables.
I was traveling in Colorado when I first fired up a single hole dct 3.5 ml tank and I had flooding issues. I got to California, and the same juice worked just fine. That was a 50/50 blend.
Now I'm sitting at home (Illinois) and that same single hole is vaping just fine.
BUT, I got a 2.5 ml dct made to match the ego. It wouldn't wick at all with 50/50. I had to drill out the one hole, and make another one (2 holes) to make it wick decently, yet the single hole 3.5 works fine with the same liquid.
go figure.
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05-16-2012, 06:55 PM
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#9 | | Hypervaporation in effect Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Deep in the Heart of the greatest state in the Union
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Originally Posted by berger Yes..have to fill it prior for sure with thick VG mixes..I condom fill the bottom and drip the top after installing in tank and fill and go..only takes a minute or so and im good to go |
This is also how I being doing the filling and finding it good method. I slot with a needle file. 2 slots on opposing sides about 1/4 way up on the first and the one on the other side about 1/3 of the way up. File is supa easy for me. Only takes a minute to do and very easy to regulate slot size. Like B said you might need to penetrate the outer filler material every so slightly if the juice does not flow. Poking it with a sewing needle or such works for me. I would say the two main problems you could encounter are going to be. Too large a hole (not just steel casing but in the filler material) causing unstoppable flooding. OR not enough flow from the opposite. BTW - I finally got my tanks working just like I like. woohoo.
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05-16-2012, 07:01 PM
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#10 | | Vapezilla Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: yonder.... going down right
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Originally Posted by wetwire This is also how I being doing the filling and finding it good method. I slot with a needle file. 2 slots on opposing sides about 1/4 way up on the first and the one on the other side about 1/3 of the way up. File is supa easy for me. Only takes a minute to do and very easy to regulate slot size. Like B said you might need to penetrate the outer filler material every so slightly if the juice does not flow. Poking it with a sewing needle or such works for me. I would say the two main problems you could encounter are going to be. Too large a hole (not just steel casing but in the filler material) causing unstoppable flooding. OR not enough flow from the opposite. BTW - I finally got my tanks working just like I like. woohoo. | Wooohooo, they are great when you get them working as they should. |
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05-16-2012, 08:22 PM
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#11 | | Hypervaporation in effect Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Deep in the Heart of the greatest state in the Union
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Originally Posted by RY4 Wooohooo, they are great when you get them working as they should.  | Yup.. The main thing I think you need to know when slotting (or whatever) is what type of filler is in it. There seems to be several variants and each cannot be treated the same.
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05-16-2012, 08:26 PM
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#12 | | Mr. DragOn Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: yonder...upright
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| yea...that seems to be the key..if its not dense enough your pretty much screwed..or worse yet if it pulls away from the wall its a straight shot to the battery connector
all in all Id say about 75-90% sucess rate punching a hole a little larger then the pre punched tank cartos
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05-16-2012, 09:24 PM
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#13 | | Vapezilla Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: yonder.... going down right
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| Yup, I've had several that the filler was pulled away from the wall and just ran right through. Gotta fluff it. |
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05-17-2012, 01:23 PM
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#14 | | In Science We Trust Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Tonganoxie, KS
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| RY said she was gonna fluff it. Does that make her a fluffer?
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05-20-2012, 06:54 PM
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#15 | | Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Atlanta, GA
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Originally Posted by berger yea...that seems to be the key..if its not dense enough your pretty much screwed..or worse yet if it pulls away from the wall its a straight shot to the battery connector
all in all Id say about 75-90% sucess rate punching a hole a little larger then the pre punched tank cartos | What do you use to punch the hole larger? |
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05-20-2012, 06:58 PM
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#16 | | Mr. DragOn Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: yonder...upright
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| course thread bugle head drywall screw..the tip expands the deeper you drive it further and its already hardened steel so it doesn't dull after a couple uses...and its cheap if you own a hammer that is..
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05-24-2012, 09:15 AM
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#17 | | Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Atlanta, GA
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| OK.. tried using the tank. Seems great in theory... however....
Dual Coil sucks on the LT. Are there pre-punched single coil cartos for tank use?
There was one tiny hole in the ones I got with it (Smok DC 2.0) which doesn't seem to work well with the thicker VG/PG mixes I have (50/50 and 70/30). I destroyed two of them already trying to make the holes bigger (yea, I'm a newbie).
Of course, the tank I got is just a cheapie delrin 3.5ml.. although I do have to say it held the juice fine, no leaking. |
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05-24-2012, 09:18 AM
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#18 | | Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Atlanta, GA
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Originally Posted by bart I fill tank then cover holes on bottom and dry suck liquid into carto. When top is wet it's ready. Takes about a minute and ready to go. I use 50/50 or higher vg and have great luck with the three hole cartos. Gonna drill some of my own soon. | Bart, where are you getting your 3 hole cartos? |
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05-28-2012, 08:35 PM
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#19 | | Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: Texas
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| I generally punch 2 holes and use a 50%/50% mix. Never have any wicking problems |
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05-28-2012, 08:46 PM
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#20 | | Chemically insane Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: georgia
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Originally Posted by Richie Bart, where are you getting your 3 hole cartos? | I usually get em from madvapes or rubbercityvapor.com. Depends on who's running a sale. |
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05-28-2012, 08:50 PM
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#21 | | Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: Texas
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| Carto punching is very simple and ez to do.
Here's 2 items you can use that make a great carto punch. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...ls_o00_s00_i00 http://www.drillspot.com/products/15...t_Coupler_Body
Very simple to use, insert carto into shaft body, tighten screw. You'll hear a "pop" when it pierces the carto. Generally 3/4 to 1 full turn of the screw and you're golden.
Just visually align your carto with the screw, vs your tank. At first it helps to barely dent the carto so you can take it back out and see if it's in the right spot.
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05-28-2012, 09:43 PM
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#22 | | Mr. DragOn Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: yonder...upright
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| alot depends on the size of the holes..I can wick 95% VG fine with a slightly larger single hole with less chance of leaking after a few days when the filler begins to pull away like you can see in the clear DCCs
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05-28-2012, 10:52 PM
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#23 | | Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Long Island, NY
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| VapeNY.com has the 3-hole ones-she gave me one last night, but Im a little scared of it-dont feel like a juice flood tonight...
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05-28-2012, 11:28 PM
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#24 | | Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: Texas
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| Maybe I should add a custom punching option to the carto's I sell.. something for me to ponder and keep me awake all night lol |
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05-29-2012, 06:09 AM
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#25 | | Mr. DragOn Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: yonder...upright
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| To be honest..That would be a interesting idea if there was some way to standardize it with specific hole sizes maybe 3/32 up to 1/8" or something correlated to various VG %'s
might take a bit of experimentation
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