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Old 05-16-2012, 03:20 PM   #1
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OK, I decided it was time to try a tank out, so I ordered one to give it a shot. If I can extend the time in between fill ups, I'll try it. However, I have one question for those of you who already use tanks. Do you find certain pg/vg ratios work better than others? I would think that if the liquid is too thick, it would have a tough time making through the hole into the carto? Experienced users have any suggestions?
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I make the hole slightly larger then stock with 90% plus VG
also sticking a paper clip in to the filling through the hole about 1/16" or so will help a slow wicking one Ive found...giving it a bit more surface contact area to wick from
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Old 05-16-2012, 03:25 PM   #3
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I usually start off with a 60vg/40pg blend... but after a couple of weeks, if the juice gets thick; I'll add a few drops of PG as needed. Just depends on how it wicks... Start thicker and work down.
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Old 05-16-2012, 03:45 PM   #4
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The key is patience to let the thicker VG to soak in the batt material

Also fill cart before tank

Once everything is wet the capilary action will work but a bit slower
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Old 05-16-2012, 03:50 PM   #5
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Yes..have to fill it prior for sure with thick VG mixes..I condom fill the bottom and drip the top after installing in tank and fill and go..only takes a minute or so and im good to go
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Old 05-16-2012, 04:15 PM   #6
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I fill tank then cover holes on bottom and dry suck liquid into carto. When top is wet it's ready. Takes about a minute and ready to go. I use 50/50 or higher vg and have great luck with the three hole cartos. Gonna drill some of my own soon.
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Old 05-16-2012, 05:47 PM   #7
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Thanks for all the advice. It's just that these things don't come with instruction manuals.
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Old 05-16-2012, 06:43 PM   #8
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In my limited experiences, there are variables.

I was traveling in Colorado when I first fired up a single hole dct 3.5 ml tank and I had flooding issues. I got to California, and the same juice worked just fine. That was a 50/50 blend.

Now I'm sitting at home (Illinois) and that same single hole is vaping just fine.

BUT, I got a 2.5 ml dct made to match the ego. It wouldn't wick at all with 50/50. I had to drill out the one hole, and make another one (2 holes) to make it wick decently, yet the single hole 3.5 works fine with the same liquid.

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Old 05-16-2012, 06:55 PM   #9
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Yes..have to fill it prior for sure with thick VG mixes..I condom fill the bottom and drip the top after installing in tank and fill and go..only takes a minute or so and im good to go

This is also how I being doing the filling and finding it good method. I slot with a needle file. 2 slots on opposing sides about 1/4 way up on the first and the one on the other side about 1/3 of the way up. File is supa easy for me. Only takes a minute to do and very easy to regulate slot size. Like B said you might need to penetrate the outer filler material every so slightly if the juice does not flow. Poking it with a sewing needle or such works for me. I would say the two main problems you could encounter are going to be. Too large a hole (not just steel casing but in the filler material) causing unstoppable flooding. OR not enough flow from the opposite. BTW - I finally got my tanks working just like I like. woohoo.
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Old 05-16-2012, 07:01 PM   #10
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This is also how I being doing the filling and finding it good method. I slot with a needle file. 2 slots on opposing sides about 1/4 way up on the first and the one on the other side about 1/3 of the way up. File is supa easy for me. Only takes a minute to do and very easy to regulate slot size. Like B said you might need to penetrate the outer filler material every so slightly if the juice does not flow. Poking it with a sewing needle or such works for me. I would say the two main problems you could encounter are going to be. Too large a hole (not just steel casing but in the filler material) causing unstoppable flooding. OR not enough flow from the opposite. BTW - I finally got my tanks working just like I like. woohoo.
Wooohooo, they are great when you get them working as they should.
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Old 05-16-2012, 08:22 PM   #11
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Wooohooo, they are great when you get them working as they should.
Yup.. The main thing I think you need to know when slotting (or whatever) is what type of filler is in it. There seems to be several variants and each cannot be treated the same.
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Old 05-16-2012, 08:26 PM   #12
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yea...that seems to be the key..if its not dense enough your pretty much screwed..or worse yet if it pulls away from the wall its a straight shot to the battery connector
all in all Id say about 75-90% sucess rate punching a hole a little larger then the pre punched tank cartos
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Old 05-16-2012, 09:24 PM   #13
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Yup, I've had several that the filler was pulled away from the wall and just ran right through. Gotta fluff it.
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Old 05-17-2012, 01:23 PM   #14
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RY said she was gonna fluff it. Does that make her a fluffer?
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Old 05-20-2012, 06:54 PM   #15
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yea...that seems to be the key..if its not dense enough your pretty much screwed..or worse yet if it pulls away from the wall its a straight shot to the battery connector
all in all Id say about 75-90% sucess rate punching a hole a little larger then the pre punched tank cartos
What do you use to punch the hole larger?
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Old 05-20-2012, 06:58 PM   #16
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course thread bugle head drywall screw..the tip expands the deeper you drive it further and its already hardened steel so it doesn't dull after a couple uses...and its cheap if you own a hammer that is..
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Old 05-24-2012, 09:15 AM   #17
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OK.. tried using the tank. Seems great in theory... however....

Dual Coil sucks on the LT. Are there pre-punched single coil cartos for tank use?

There was one tiny hole in the ones I got with it (Smok DC 2.0) which doesn't seem to work well with the thicker VG/PG mixes I have (50/50 and 70/30). I destroyed two of them already trying to make the holes bigger (yea, I'm a newbie).

Of course, the tank I got is just a cheapie delrin 3.5ml.. although I do have to say it held the juice fine, no leaking.
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Old 05-24-2012, 09:18 AM   #18
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I fill tank then cover holes on bottom and dry suck liquid into carto. When top is wet it's ready. Takes about a minute and ready to go. I use 50/50 or higher vg and have great luck with the three hole cartos. Gonna drill some of my own soon.
Bart, where are you getting your 3 hole cartos?
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Old 05-28-2012, 08:35 PM   #19
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I generally punch 2 holes and use a 50%/50% mix. Never have any wicking problems
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Bart, where are you getting your 3 hole cartos?
I usually get em from madvapes or rubbercityvapor.com. Depends on who's running a sale.
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Old 05-28-2012, 08:50 PM   #21
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Carto punching is very simple and ez to do.

Here's 2 items you can use that make a great carto punch.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...ls_o00_s00_i00

http://www.drillspot.com/products/15...t_Coupler_Body

Very simple to use, insert carto into shaft body, tighten screw. You'll hear a "pop" when it pierces the carto. Generally 3/4 to 1 full turn of the screw and you're golden.

Just visually align your carto with the screw, vs your tank. At first it helps to barely dent the carto so you can take it back out and see if it's in the right spot.
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Old 05-28-2012, 09:43 PM   #22
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alot depends on the size of the holes..I can wick 95% VG fine with a slightly larger single hole with less chance of leaking after a few days when the filler begins to pull away like you can see in the clear DCCs
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Old 05-28-2012, 10:52 PM   #23
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VapeNY.com has the 3-hole ones-she gave me one last night, but Im a little scared of it-dont feel like a juice flood tonight...
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Maybe I should add a custom punching option to the carto's I sell.. something for me to ponder and keep me awake all night lol
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Old 05-29-2012, 06:09 AM   #25
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To be honest..That would be a interesting idea if there was some way to standardize it with specific hole sizes maybe 3/32 up to 1/8" or something correlated to various VG %'s
might take a bit of experimentation
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