pbusardo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=64Bjf67PArw

RY4

Awesome! Thanks so much for doing that and sharing. Those are big slots. The carto doesn't flood? You made it look easy but I think I would be skeerd to hold it with my fingers and cut at same time. Noticed you did it on both sides too. On the ones I bought that come with the hole already punched, there is only one small hole I can see. Now I'm a little confused.

blueaussie

Could not have come at a better time, trying to get my tank groove on and bought a dremmel . Thanks Apprecite it very much, I watch all of your videos.
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Craig

berger

hey Phil...you dont have problems with PG leaking down through the air hole that way?..

blueaussie

Hi I was wondering it you can talk a little more about double sloting I assume for GB juice. I have had problems with double slotting causing the carto to flood. Also What do you do about prventing vapor lock when assembling. I lost about 15 ml of juice trying to get it wright. Just got my dremmel and looking forward to trying different juices without running into these problems,. Any advice is appreciated
Thanks
Craig

DevonMoonshire

Great Video PBusardo once again, your sound and video are way better than mine. I stick with the blackish grey cutting wheels myself I tried the EZLock system and the discs put too big a slot in the carto for my 70/30 PG/VG Juices. I got a little bit of leaking from the carto using those so I went back to slotting with the smaller cutting discs. I have never had a screw come lose on me but I can think of all kinds of bad things happening if they did.

Shekinahsgroom

These are even better:

http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from...+Cutting+Wheel

One will last you a very, very long time!

Steampunk

Dang, I used to work for GE Plastics....they made those ("Diamond" cutting wheels)...should have stocked up...

Shekinahsgroom

Yeah you should have!!

These are what I used when trimming flaws out of valuable stones, back in my days of lapidary.

Steampunk

But I DID have a load of Lexan!

wetwire

WOW.. that is one big slot.. That does not flood?

pbusardo

If I were a woman, I might be offended by that comment :-)

Nope. It's how I've been slotting my cartos from the start.
Funny cause I look at the pinholes on the new Smoktech pre-"punched" cartos and I say,

"WOW.. that is one tiny hole.. That does not burn?"

The only time I get "flooding" is when the air hole starts to close up from gunk and when you suck it begins to pull from the slots rather than the air passage.

When filling, I may get a drop out of the mouthpiece at which point it could potentially be a little flooded. I just blow it out and slide the carto down so that the slots are under the seal. When it get dry, I slide it back up so the slots are revealed and off I go.

I would MUCH rather have too much juice to the filler material than too little and get a burnt or dry hit.

As you can see from the vid, a carto will burn almost instantly if the center core isn't wet. And once it burns, you're out of luck.

As always, I'm not saying this is the right way, I'm just saying this is how I do it. If you have a better way, or something that works well for you... have at it!

Rose

[quote=pbusardo;88486]If I were a woman, I might be offended by that comment :-)

berger

Sorry Phil, the other day I made a hole much smaller then that on the exact same type carto 1.7 SC XL and it leaked like a sieve out the bottom of the air hole on the carto..totally gun shy now...but dont you mostly use bobas bounty...not bad BTW..and that stuff is like cold molasses at 105% VG

RY4

ROTFLMAO!!!!!!! Whewwww... Heheheheheh...........

You mean larger hole?

pbusardo

Hey, it could happen. I've had a lot of luck slotting this way. BUT, I slot mostly Boge LR and NR cartos which tend to resist leaking far better than the Smoktech cartos. Could be the issue, although right now, I have two slotted 1.7 Smoktechs in tanks, one with a 70/30 and one with Boba's, 100 VG.

I've never had any leaking from any of them. Actually, never any leaking from the air hole on anything I've ever slotted.

Could be anything from I'm just lucky, the way I store them (on their side when not in use) to the phase of the moon.

I can totally understand you being gun shy though. If it happened to me, I'd need to rethink the way I do things!

berger

ahhh..makes sense then..might be luck of the draw as far as the "filling" density then...Ive noticed on clears the filling of DCCs can pull away from the walls so that may have something to do with it..boges do seem tighter packed then ST cartos to me

wetwire

I wonder if it is the carto being stressed out of round or the bottom plate loosening that makes it leak. I just cut my first one yesterday and it seems fine. I am going to continue opening up the slot a lil at a time to find max performance spot. I think Phil has something with the type of carto being a culprit. Not necessarily the brand as much as which type of filler material it has. Some absorb/transfer the liquid much faster than others do. Also, the more I think about it. The actual size of the hole is not going to be proportional to the volume of liquid let in for several reasons. The way liquid has a tendency to cling to the edge of something without spilling over.. No what I mean? I have tried reasoning out the best placement for the holes as well, and too many factors come in to play for me to say without doubt, the best placement.

Robert

I been messing with hole punchong also, too big = gurgling. too small = dry hits / not wicking fast enough.

I started putting two holes (1/2 turn in on saddle vale after you feel it penatrate ) and now I'm getting better flavor the carto seems to be wicking in the juice good. No gurgling.

I place the two holes about a third of the way up the standard carto and about 30 deg apart from each other.

2 Holes are better than 1? For now, but this is an ongoing experiment.

pbusardo

NEVER stop experimenting!!

Vapebar

Great instructional vid.

One possible oversight would be to get into it with a metal pick after the cut. There is almost always a piece of the case in there and the pick helps to quickly scrape off each corner and make it nice and smooth.

Secondly, I always recommend bottom filling the slotted carto before adding it to the tank. This way you have instant useability.

Just wanted to say I enjoy your vids and G'day from Australia

wetwire

Welcome to the forum VB.

Cut two slots in a ST DCT carto with a file yesterday. Went semi-cautious at about half the overall size of Ps cuts. Non stop flood even at my 70% VG mix. Had to cover one slot completely and the other one by half to be able to use again. The filler material type/design is key to hole size, I think. There is good reason they make such a small hole in the ST DCT cartos. Although if you are a heavy vaper, like myself, You will want to add a small slot to help that tiny hole out me thinks.

pbusardo

Amazing. Here is the carto I slotted with Boba's in it, in a J-Tank, on my Buzz Pro. It's been sitting here are my desk upright since 7AM.

Again, this is a Resurrector (Smoktech 1.7 Ohm single coil)

No leaking or flooding whatsoever.

Probably looking at a situation where these cuts are VERY juice and carto dependent and I just haven't run into the situation where all the variables were right to cause me issues.

berger

well boba is some thick stuff too..definitely 100% VG...even a just few % (like 5) PG makes a huge difference in viscosity..Im not surprised at all to be honest..
Its obvious they need an adjustable ventura carto and a briscel viscosity cup to determine the proper hole size...at the current juice temp...LOL
Ive found that little hole works fine for me up until about 90% VG but that could be luck of the draw carto filler density too..
something tells me its a little bit more complicated then just the hole size

pbusardo

Ain't that the truth ;-)