pbusardo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5OFpaCz0d2I

berger

Nice review as usual Phil... thanks.
It does bring to mind a question for me though..should these 3 setting devices be called VV? I mean I vape at 4.2-4.4 volts with my cartos just what happens to work well for me. With this device (plus several others out there) Im sort of SOL without tuning my cartos to the device. Im thinking we really need a new term for devices other then VV as its kinda misleading. Maybe MV for Multi Volt...not really what Vari Volt brings to mind for me at least anyway. I cant really dial it in. Just my 2 cents

pbusardo

NO!!! I AGREE!! They should be called MVs or Multi-Volt!!

And when I just responded I only read the top of your post and not the entire thing (didn't get to the MV section). Apparently we agree!

berger

Yea..I definitely think its misleading either unintentional (or by design). Noobs read all the hype about VV and jump at something cheap thinking its a great deal when in reality the final performance comes up woefully short of a good VV device that can actually provide the amps necessary to really work across the usable stated range. To me thats wasted money cause at even half the price it could have gone towards a good device (or mod) that actually does what it says it can to actually do what they think it will when they threw down the bucks in the first place..

ToweKnee

Well I wasn't too entirely unhappy with my LT. I really never used it past 4.5 using 2.0 Boge cartos. IMO anything above that really made the flavor of the juice suffer a little. Is it a purchase I regret? No not really cause Im still learning and unfortunately I cant really afford a real VV device. I think we are at a plataea where we will be seeing more VV devices/desings and hopefully the prices will be lower.

Shekinahsgroom

I absolutely agree with TK!

I think that the LT is a dirt cheap VV devise that CLEARLY is quite popular and user's really rather enjoy using.

Matter of fact, there's significantly more veteran vapers in my coop than noobs and they're ordering an average of 3 each.

One of the admins wants 7, soooo....

Just because they won't push enough amperage to run a DC carto doesn't mean that they won't work fantastic with a Boge 2 ohm carto.

Most people don't vape past 5 volts anyways, so for the price and for the overall performance, it's WELL worth the price you pay.....ESPECIALLY in a coop!!

Fine if you've got a pile of cash and wanna blow it on a devise that'll destroy cartomizers, if you're not careful, but most people don't have that kind of cash to WASTE in the first place.

And a lot just make their own devises, simply for that very same reason.

But the one's that don't want to make their own and don't wanna blow a pile of much needed gas money, will opt for an LT and be very happy with it.

Just my 2 cents...

berger

Well it wasnt a particular shot at any specific one device...what we are seeing now is just the tip of the iceberg as the industry as a whole is concerned...considering the natural progression its obvious more and more devices are coming along as MV in the market already with plans on more VV Im sure. The point Im making is it can be pretty mis-leading to people who dont truly understand the whole picture. Noobs as a whole look at a voltage number and think thats the whole story when in fact its NOT. Most people entering the market are not going to take the time to figure that out...but buy mostly on the numbers say this or that. In reviews like Phils he takes to time to show the loaded volts and the voltage drops and I applaud the details he goes into. Calling something VV or MV is a part of that "sell hype" is what Im referring to. The truth is way beyond just a V rating or the STATEMENT its VV and its important to know what your REALLY getting before you plunk down your hard earned money be it 50 or 100 or more.

RY4

I don't believe one could ever waste their cash on a TRUE VV. I got both mine for under $100, with one half that price and both preform as they are made to--- flawlessly and neither have ever destroyed a carto. All my carto failures were from my own user mistakes. If I ever need help with one of my devices, I always have someone there to help me with it. In my past experiences with the newest Chinese devices, I can't say the same thing and find myself constantly having to fidget with it to get it to work and keep it working.

ToweKnee

berger & Phil your absolutely correct that these companies making the devices need to be a little more forth coming with their consumers about their products. The problem is that people that get their feet wet in the world of vaping are clueless. We have to rely on research and other people reviews. We also have to watch out for swayed reviewers as well. The problem is that their is so much mis information than real information. Good thing is we have people like Phil to take the time and dissect these products and give a un biased review. ideally someone could have all the info they need but its still their decision to make.