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07-29-2009, 03:39 AM
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#1 | | Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Florida
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| I am looking for a manual usb passthru for the 510. I read somewhere that another model of ecig will match up on the threads dse-800 something I think. I was hoping to find one without that extra battery inline. Also a manual passthru for a M400 series would be great. Has anyone seen that? |
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07-29-2009, 08:32 PM
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#2 | | Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: USA
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| only threading that match a 510 is the 306 and the L88b..........a 400 series is exactly opposite to the 510 meaning 510 attys is male and 400 atty is female but same threading |
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07-29-2009, 08:48 PM
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| Don't know if it's a good thing but my 084 and 510 switchy swapy and work fine.
Whoa ! Want to wake up an 084?
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07-29-2009, 10:26 PM
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#4 | | Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Florida
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| Rocket,
Does the 084 have an exposed atty? That may be a match made in heaven |
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07-29-2009, 11:17 PM
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Originally Posted by VaporFiend Rocket,
Does the 084 have an exposed atty? That may be a match made in heaven  | Yes, but it cooks on the 510 bat.
Actually with both juiced up all combinations of the parts seem to work OK together. There might be a difference in the feel when threading them together, but they seem to seat OK. Blow the photo up and you can see the difference in tube size but threads seem pretty much compatible.
photo of 510 and 084
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07-29-2009, 11:51 PM
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| Threads on 084 atty are about 0.004 inches longer than 510 based on one sample each. Might be within tolerance. This is as close as I can get tonight.
Yuk, I need to clean these up. |
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07-30-2009, 01:18 PM
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#7 | | I Want YOU!... To Vape! Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Sunny Florida! U.S.A.
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| Some of my observations from the past:
501 Atti to 084 Batt = Works (Nice Vapor!)
501 Batt to 084 Atti = Nada (0)
501 Pass to 084 Atti = Zip (0)
They all do thread up nicely though!
Hope it helps someone!
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07-30-2009, 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Stehle Some of my observations from the past:
501 Batt to 084 Atti = Nada (0) | Stehle, Mine works fine. I might make some depth and length measurements tonight. My 084 atty thread length is a little longer and makes good contact with the 510 bat. Tried 510/084 and 084/510 and both worked for me. I would recommend to anyone trying this to be careful if the depth of one battery is less than the other, and the length of one atty is longer than the other. The long thread-short depth may permanently compress the center conductor and damage one of the parts. The short thread - longer depth combination may not make contact, no damage, but no worky either. i wonder what manufacturing tolerance is on these?
Anyone trying this be careful not to damage your parts. Don't have a PT to try.
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07-30-2009, 03:27 PM
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#9 | | I Want YOU!... To Vape! Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Sunny Florida! U.S.A.
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Originally Posted by Rocketman Stehle, Mine works fine. I might make some depth and length measurements tonight. My 084 atty thread length is a little longer and makes good contact with the 510 bat. Tried 510/084 and 084/510 and both worked for me. I would recommend to anyone trying this to be careful if the depth of one battery is less than the other, and the length of one atty is longer than the other. The long thread-short depth may permanently compress the center conductor and damage one of the parts. The short thread - longer depth combination may not make contact, no damage, but no worky either. i wonder what manufacturing tolerance is on these?
Anyone trying this be careful not to damage your parts. Don't have a PT to try.
Rocket | Great!
Perhaps in my case not forcing the parts, ( as per the potential damage issue you describe above), certain necessary contact between parts may not have been satisfactorily made.
Also perhaps because I tend to collect multiple items that have different names. For instance a "510" could be a Joye, Titan, Yeti, etc.. Many times we just use a generic term like "510" to describe this or that feature, cart or accessory, but I assure you there not all the same. Most may be just cosmetic differences which one can see, (example: wider gold band on Titan atomizers.), but certain physical tolerances can vary as well that we can't see. Lets not even discuss different "grades" of e-cig products that vary in just one manufacturers line!
Did you know also that some 084 atomizers can fit on some Evo / M401 batteries and chargers. Keywords there are "some", so as not to send someone not that knowledgeable yet that reads this post later down on a damaging path.
Perhaps not always the case, but maybe there are certain forms of uniformity we cling to... say a similar type of generic term... say 15" tires... I'd still rather ride on Goodyears than on Coopers... though their both 15"
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07-30-2009, 11:32 PM
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| I think the threads on a 084 are opposite than that of a 401. As in male/female reversed. |
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07-31-2009, 12:04 AM
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Originally Posted by VaporFiend I think the threads on a 084 are opposite than that of a 401. As in male/female reversed. | I was just using it to make a point, (I believe it threaded into 401 charger if I remember right... not to say the connection has any real relevance, as it does not.), but the point being blanket statements about part compatibility may cause real harm to the newbie.
Who we are posting to may understand, but who reads are posts later may not.
This is just IMHO.
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07-31-2009, 01:36 AM
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| Roger that. |
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07-31-2009, 08:12 AM
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Originally Posted by VaporFiend I am looking for a manual usb passthru for the 510. I read somewhere that another model of ecig will match up on the threads dse-800 something I think. I was hoping to find one without that extra battery inline. Also a manual passthru for a M400 series would be great. Has anyone seen that? | Try: Matte Black USB passthrough for M401 e-cig - Spare Parts - Heaven-gifts.com Ruyandirect.com Best E-smoking Shop
I deal with them a lot. Hollar and I can throw one on next order.
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08-01-2009, 10:05 PM
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| Got one of the cheap solar chargers off ebay. Uses the same case as the Chi-pod. Small but is supposed to has 1350mah at 5.5v. Charges from USB or solar. I guess I need to order a a passthru for the 901 and the 510. Tried it with a couple of USB powered thingys, seems to work. This might be useful just sitting around with a passthru.
Naw, just checked, 510 passthru is too much. If one of my batteries would just die.
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08-01-2009, 11:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Rocketman Got one of the cheap solar chargers off ebay. Uses the same case as the Chi-pod. Small but is supposed to has 1350mah at 5.5v. Charges from USB or solar. I guess I need to order a a passthru for the 901 and the 510. Tried it with a couple of USB powered thingys, seems to work. This might be useful just sitting around with a passthru.
Naw, just checked, 510 passthru is too much. If one of my batteries would just die. | Is it dark out there yet? Maybe if its dark it won't generate the needed 510 power.
( I used to be a wiz at eelektrisikil thangs thr lite bulb aways going off yaknow? Now Im jest luky if'n I kan wiz on the lite bulb.)
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08-01-2009, 11:11 PM
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| I meant the 510 passthru is to much $$$. The 901 is much cheaper, guess I get a couple of those. Could use them anyway.
The solar cell supposedly puts out 80ma in the sun. I doubt it would keep up with any serious vaping. Would pep up a cell phone though, just in case. THe output rating is 1000ma at 5v. That ought to handle a passthur. Will play for a few days and see how it goes. Will let everyone know.
Maybe I'll just leave it in the fridge tonight. Can't fool me, that light does not go out.
R
I'll continue this review in the ecigs and electricity thread.
Got a little doupled over here. Posting twice and all
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08-01-2009, 11:22 PM
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| Kewl Beans!
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09-15-2009, 10:03 AM
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| heavengifts now have a 510 passtrhu, enjoy |
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09-27-2009, 07:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Ralph |
You couldn't pay me to run any e-cig products of a USB port on my computer. no way uh uh ain't happening.
I use a little port mutiplier/what ever ya call it so when the catastrophic failure happens, and it WILL happen, I don't lose a motherboard.
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09-27-2009, 08:45 PM
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| How about a USB fan or rocking sloshing aquarium? |
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09-28-2009, 11:40 AM
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| I just think its crazy to risk an expensive motherboard or port repair. I use a mains to usb converter for my pass through. I'm in the process of making a new one with a bigger 18650 battery and adjustable voltage. |
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09-28-2009, 01:47 PM
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| Some more info on killing your motherboard any electronics techs/hobbiests?
For you desktop computer users, consider a 4 port USB PCI card for about $10 added to your motherboard. You can use the extra USB ports for anything and if it dies, buy another $10 card.
Want to see "crazy"?
search for USB powered soldering iron
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09-28-2009, 07:20 PM
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#24 | | Legendary Vaper Join Date: May 2009 Location: Treasure Coast
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Originally Posted by Rocketman Some more info on killing your motherboard any electronics techs/hobbiests?
For you desktop computer users, consider a 4 port USB PCI card for about $10 added to your motherboard. You can use the extra USB ports for anything and if it dies, buy another $10 card.
Want to see "crazy"?
search for USB powered soldering iron  | The USB card is still plugged directly into the PCI bus on the MB, so it probably does not provide much motherboard protection when overloaded.
A cheap external USB hub like the D-link DUB-H4 for like $20 may be a better selection. It has a built in protection circuit in the box. Shouldn't make it to the MB when something plugged into it starts to fry. JMHO
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09-29-2009, 04:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Lazarus The USB card is still plugged directly into the PCI bus on the MB, so it probably does not provide much motherboard protection when overloaded.
A cheap external USB hub like the D-link DUB-H4 for like $20 may be a better selection. It has a built in protection circuit in the box. Shouldn't make it to the MB when something plugged into it starts to fry. JMHO | Actually most PCI buses will supply 5 volts at 12 amps per slot (for hot video cards). The add in card is usually spec'd and protected well enough to protect the bus.
Laz, I agree: The remote self powered hub is the absolute best and safest way. Besides, you can vape with the computer off.
This discussion should be enough to convince someone not to plug extraneous gadgets into their USB ports. Even the little USB hard-drives need 2 USB plugs to power them. (why?)
The laptop is the PRIMARY concern. I would hate to have a laptop without any USB capability because of an e-cig passthrough. The strain relief on the passthrough cable does not look like it will last long before either shorting out or opening. The short is the "death to the USB" failure mode. |
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