totalchaos

I ordered the Halo COOL juice in 36mg (knowing absolutely nothing about strength) and after reading on here that seems like a really strong juice since the highest level I see repeatedly is 24mg. So is the 36 super strong in general?

Dwellsouth

I'm pretty much a chain vaper = because I can be
I smoked some strong little filtered cigars @ 20 a day.
I started with 16mg strength and it was too light - got nicotine withdrawals actually so I went up to 24mg (or thereabouts since I'm mixing in a not-so-scientific manner)

Stehle

I take most of my 36mg and cut it 50/50 with either VG, a Seedman Top Note flavors and usually a few good drops of menthol*.

(I'm now trying Vermont Vapors Mint and Cool Mint thanks to Hachiroku's high recommendations.)

I just vaped an old (June '09) "Hilton" that kicked my butt!... I LOVE that stuff.

(A nic connoisseur talking "Yes... it was a '09 vinatge, <ahem> ...a "36" blend.)

JohnnyJames

Yes it is too strong. Many vapers enamored with their new toy end up increasing their nicotine addiction over time. The amount of cigs you smoked is also not a good indicator of what nic level to choose either. How you smoked them comes into play. My suggestion is to start with 24mg tops and see how it goes. Get yourself some Glycerin USP from the drug store. WalMart carries the Humco brand. You can use this to lower the nic content as you see fit, but it will also dilute the flavor.

Stehle

JohnnyJames is absolutely right as far as my personal experiences go. I started at about 24mg. (A few hits of 36mg when I was getting stressed or iritable.), but now cut back to 16 -18mg and smooth sailing.

(Except for the pre-mixed D1 cartomizers which I always choose 24mg or whatever there high strength nic is. Call it a little vice the day I get my order in the mail... Thanks LeCig!)

Hachiroku

"The vegetable glycerin was made from a highly regarded stock of the finest corn and soy available from the Sonoma Valley of California, blended with fresh extra virgin olive oil from the Gaspe region of Spain, for a delicate bouquet and an exotic blend of flavors."

Hachiroku

Nah! Full bore! 36mG straight up! I sometimes get a good buzz vaping fresh juice!

YESSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Stehle

Whew! For a minute there I thought they got that VG crap on eBay!!

(Ya gotta love "bouquet" descriptions!)

Stehle

Does have a nice buzz; does it not?

('nuff said.)

Dhileas

I enjoyed the high strength juices, but I've found that by how much I vape, my heart doesn't take kindly to the introduction of so much of a stimulant. I've decided to stay between 12mg and 18mg. I started getting some rough heart palpitations that I'm not prone to otherwise. NOT THAT IT'LL HAPPEN TO EVERYONE!!! My body just doesn't handle stimulants or sedatives lightly. I can't even have Vicodin without it being buffered.

Rocketman

I started on 36mg/ml, no ill effects really, but a leak would give me hiccups.
24mg/ml for a long time, 18 etc.
12mg/ml currently, works, but I still vape a lot. Swamp Lady is now on 10mg/ml.

Buy the 36, cut it. cut it more later.

Dhileas

I'm really considering buying a large bottle of like 36mg or something and cutting it, but I'm not there yet.

7thCabal

36mg from Halo? The highest I see on the site is 24mg-- was that a special order? lemme know I like the Halo juices.

babygoat17

I have found everything that i need for my juice locally, which is surprising since I live in B.F.E. Got a gallon of PG U.S.P. for $30, got a good size bottle of VG from wally world for just a few bucks and I picked up a bunch of Wilton and LorAnn flavorings on clearance (I guess candy making season is over or something). I've whipped up some good flavors in my laboratory aka the kitchen. They all vape great but where can I get the nicotine. I've checked out myfreedomsmokes.com but do you guys know of anywhere else to get some very high strength nicotine concentrate because I just started vapin and I'm no where close to being ready for 0 nic. I've gone from 2 packs of Pall Mall 100s a day down to 4 analogs since jan 25 2010, and the only reason I had those is because miscalculated shipping time from Johnson Creek. I tried vapin my homebrew zero nic but that didn't cut it, tasted good but just didn't satisfy. My juice from J.C. will be here soon today. So to avoid another disaster I am looking for a good supplier of high strength flavorless nicotine cuz with all those other supplies I could make alot of juice. BTW should I keep it in the fridge or in the freezer?? Please help point me in the right direction. Thank you

Hachiroku

Vt Vapor sells non-flavored VG nic juice at 60mG/mL IIRC, and also MistStyx, I think.

There is another but I can't remember right now.

Rocketman

You can find one lurking in the Buy, Sell, Trade, section of this forum,
sort of keeps a Loww profile IYKWIM.

R

40bikes

BG, Seriously severe unflavored use somewhat more than extreme caution e-juice at DFWVapor in Dallas:150mG/mL; 30mL for 40$ but $8 shipping regardless of order size. I ordered some more juices flavored 36mG 10Ml as tasters $5 ea to make the shpg worth it.
(Didn't order the clean up the gene pool150, Im to clumsy and I already have enough problems with my three cats wanting their batts charged and carts refilled) bikes

Rocketman

A while back I proposed an evaluation metric for Nic-juice orders for those that want to buy high, mix low
Most folks scan the ads for for the price of 30ml bottle, oh boy 30ml for $10.
That method is fine, as long as you add in shipping, or pad the order with as much stuff as you can to reduce the 'per item shipping cost'. But for the home mixologist price per milliliter doesn't always 'add up'.
Start with the cost of the VG or PG and flavors you will use, and the NIC Base and you can actually save money by mixing down your juice. I often buy flavored juice as my "base" for a flavor I can't mix up, like Redbull.
OK the metric: milligrams of Nicotine per dollar spent,
mg/$.
Nicotine in a PG or VG base, hopefully pH balanced, can be had for close to 100mg of NIC per dollar, 100mg/$.

bikes, the 30ml of unflavored 150mg/ml for $40 plus $8 shipping would have been (shifting to the calculator-click buzz whirr) a bargain and given you a total of 4500mg of Nic for $48 or
93.75mg/$,
almost 100mg/$ and even without adding in other stuff to share the shipping.
But do you want 150mg/ml NIC hanging around in the house (freezer) or do you want to immediately cut it with VG or PG to 50mg/ml base and store that.
Watch the actual cost when you buy, including shipping if you are building a stash of NIC juice. But be careful, even a large quantity of 24mg/ml juice can be dangerous, depending on the pets, kids, vaping teens, in your particular situation.

Rocket
(I even have a baggy of LED flashlights in my fridge)

damunster

OK Rocket, I have a question for you. I am no good at figuring this out:
I am mixing:
10 drops of VG
15 drops of 35 mg vanilla VG based
45 drops of 24 pg flue cured.
What is the nicotine lvl?
Thanks

Rocketman

22.928

((15X35)+(45X24)+(10X0)) / 70 = 22.928
In other words, sum up the product of all your inputs, and divide by the total quantity produced.
R

damunster

Thank you for figuring that out and explaining to me

Rocketman

No problem, and a good example of mixing what you have. At least there wasn't any 150mg/ml juice involved. KNOW WHAT YOU ARE DOING before using 150mg/ml juice.

I like to guesstimate my creations in addition to calculating.
In your example (for other readers) You can pretty much bet it will be less than 35mg/ml, right? The zero Nic and 35mg/ml will be a good bit less than 35, and mixed in with alot of 24mg/ml should come up close to 24, I'll be darn, it did.
If you get strange calculator results like 75mg/ml, or 2mg/ml re-calculate. Happens

and damunster, I would add one drop of water, or 100 proof booze to your mixture, might be a little on the think side the way it is. But that will drop your mix to 22.6mg/ml.

Maybe just half a drop of water.

Rocket

40bikes

Rocket, that is the kind of figuring I did and it looked very good but those cats those darn cats, don't want them breaking into the neighbors house looking for smokes after they get to used to nicotine and can't get off it. I've already got 150ml of 48 that I need to cut to 1/3rd or 1/4th but there's no need to get that Darwin Award stuff unless the prohibitionists or revenooers get serious. The deal with the cats is best guess anecdotal stuff . During the course of mixing juice, filling carts etc even though I'd wipe my hands cats would come by my Comp desk to get their head petted or let me know they need food or just to visit , I'd give them a little attention and they'd be on their way..I can only guess that in the process of giving themselves a bath after I touched them( a common response) they absorbed a little nicotine and now having identified the source EVERYTIME I sit at the computer I have cats sitting around me howling. What have I done?!!!! bikes

damunster

Yeah, I have one that liked to smell my smoke (when I smoked). Now he comes over to smell my vapor and just looks at me like "wheres the good stuff". lol

Rocketman

wow, catnip nicotine. I have never heard of such behavior. 5 cats here, they like to help type, but haven't shown an interest in me vaping. Kind of hard to tell with the Swamp Lady, she the 5 cats and two little doggies share the sofa. I usually get stuck in the recliner, 5 feet from the TV

You really think they are craving the Nic?


I don't have any of the 150. I have some 48, and a really big bottle of 35mg/ml VG.
I might think about it after I use up some more stash. Even though I have it in the freezer I don't think it ages aS well as a good cigar.

R