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Old 12-22-2011, 03:51 PM   #1
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Sorry topic should say PG or VG not OG lol

Most sites when you order nic juice ask you what mix would you like as well as the nic strength. My question does it matter? You eventually mix base VG or PG into it anyways right?

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Most sites when you order nic juice ask you what mix would you like as well as the nic strength. My question does it matter? You eventually mix base VG or PG into it anyways right?
VG = Large amounts of fluffy, smooth vapor.....but it's a bad flavor carrier.

PG = Mediocre amounts of vapor, big throat hit (can sometimes be harsh on the throat/dry affect), but it's an excellent flavor carrier.

I use 100% PG because it enhances the flavor immensely as compared to VG mixes.

When you mix the two, you make sacrifices depending upon your personal preferences.

Some people can't handle PG at all as its a slight lung/asthma irritant and drys out your mouth and throat.

And some people hate VG because it has a sweet, soapy after taste.

It really comes down to you, TK....whatever is best for YOU!
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VG = Large amounts of fluffy, smooth vapor.....but it's a bad flavor carrier.

PG = Mediocre amounts of vapor, big throat hit (can sometimes be harsh on the throat/dry affect), but it's an excellent flavor carrier.

I use 100% PG because it enhances the flavor immensely as compared to VG mixes.

When you mix the two, you make sacrifices depending upon your personal preferences.

Some people can't handle PG at all as its a slight lung/asthma irritant and drys out your mouth and throat.

And some people hate VG because it has a sweet, soapy after taste.

It really comes down to you, TK....whatever is best for YOU!
Well I kinda like both lol. I figure mixing on my own will let me try different ratios without breaking the bank on ordering juices online. I may like 50/50 or 20VG to 80/PG but I haven't really explored that far into it myself.
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Sorry topic should say PG or VG not OG lol
it does now
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Well I kinda like both lol. I figure mixing on my own will let me try different ratios without breaking the bank on ordering juices online. I may like 50/50 or 20VG to 80/PG but I haven't really explored that far into it myself.
I tried mixing the two myself, a 75PG/25VG mix and really liked the smooth vapor, but the throat hit just wasn't there on a 3.7V mod and the soapy after taste turned me off to VG.

I'm sure that there are ways to mask the soapy taste, but I'm good with just PG for now....
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I usually use 95 VG 5 PG but I never really noticed "soapy"..sweeter a little...muted for sure
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Sorry topic should say PG or VG not OG lol

Most sites when you order nic juice ask you what mix would you like as well as the nic strength. My question does it matter? You eventually mix base VG or PG into it anyways right?
I use 85-95% VG, with the only PG coming from the flavoring I add. PG in any concentration of more than 25% makes my face break out very badly in addition to the harsh throat hit and drying effects. I find that the flavoring carries through pretty well even with that high ratio of VG.
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What Im asking is that either way VG or PG ends up in the mix right? So If I order nic juice in Pg/VG what does it matter really if Im going to add more VG/PG anyways?

I hope Im getting my point across or I am I missing something? So far I have no ill received effects from using either. I understand the VG more flavor and PG not so good flavor and more vape. I do get what each of these do.

Ok So it just seems to be its a preferance to most people and also to availability. From what I gather PG Nic and base works with carto's better. Like an 80PG/20VG sounds like what most are doing.

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I order my nic in PG but no it does not matter unless you are going for 100% VG. It may be easier to mix if you order your nic in whatever is going to be your big percentage.

If you are going to have a 60 to 70 % PG then I would order it in PG. If your higher percentage is VG then I would order it in VG..Just makes mixing easier in my opinion.
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Old 12-22-2011, 05:12 PM   #10
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What Im asking is that either way VG or PG ends up in the mix right? So If I order nic juice in Pg/VG what does it matter really if Im going to add more VG/PG anyways?

I hope Im getting my point across or I am I missing something? So far I have no ill received effects from using either. I understand the VG more flavor and PG not so good flavor and more vape. I do get what each of these do.

Ok So it just seems to be its a preferance to most people and also to availability. From what I gather PG Nic and base works with carto's better. Like an 80PG/20VG sounds like what most are doing.
i get ya, yes it does make a difference.. now if you are like me, i vape a 50-50. i like to buy my nic 5050 too, makes things easyer but if you were doing all pg or all vg you would need to but that type nic, for me it makes no difference, but preference. i just ordered from wizard labs 250 mills of nic 50-50, 500 mills of vg, and 500 mills of pg. now if he carried honkers, and boge cartos, i would not go any where elese..
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What Im asking is that either way VG or PG ends up in the mix right? So If I order nic juice in Pg/VG what does it matter really if Im going to add more VG/PG anyways?

I hope Im getting my point across or I am I missing something? So far I have no ill received effects from using either. I understand the VG more flavor and PG not so good flavor and more vape. I do get what each of these do.

Ok So it just seems to be its a preferance to most people and also to availability. From what I gather PG Nic and base works with carto's better. Like an 80PG/20VG sounds like what most are doing.
Honestly, I don't have any problems with cartos using a high VG ratio. Basically it is just as subjective as flavor. Everyone has their personal preference. When I started vaping I started with 100% PG, but quickly started cutting back because I like the huge fluffy white clouds that VG makes. PG has better flavor, but less vapor. VG has better vapor but less flavor carrying properties. If you aren't having any problems with the PG and you like the way it vapes, carry on.
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Old 12-22-2011, 06:21 PM   #12
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I go with 60/40 to 70/30 PG/VG and all points in between. I prefer to buy nic with more PG than VG for the simple reason PG is thinner and easier to get out of bottle into the mix and quicker I get the nic out and lid closed again the better I like it
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70-100 VG here.. usually very yummy.. never soapy

Spill some detergent in your mix maybe?

Vaping some 100% VG premix (early xmas present) right now.. YUM!
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Vaping some 100% VG premix (early xmas present) right now.. YUM!
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70-100 VG here.. usually very yummy.. never soapy

Spill some detergent in your mix maybe?

Vaping some 100% VG premix (early xmas present) right now.. YUM!
Nope:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glycerin

Glycerol forms the backbone of triglycerides, and is chiefly produced by saponification of fats as a byproduct of soap-making.

That's why if you vape VG straight, it tastes like soap.....BIGTIME!

You've gotta have really strong flavors to cover that up, otherwise you're gonna get a mouthful of NASTY!!
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Nope:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glycerin

Glycerol forms the backbone of triglycerides, and is chiefly produced by saponification of fats as a byproduct of soap-making.

That's why if you vape VG straight, it tastes like soap.....BIGTIME!

You've gotta have really strong flavors to cover that up, otherwise you're gonna get a mouthful of NASTY!!
So thats why my triglycerides are up
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Awesome that was the type of responses what i was looking for. !! You guys rule ! I def want to try some different variations of cut myself. I also heard VG is lot harder to dilute than VG like gwp just confirmed for me.

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Has anyone used PG from Tractor Supply/ Is it vape worthy? I can't find much about it online
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After reading about it, it says it is mixed with feed for animals to ingest and it is USP grade. So I would assume it's vapeable, but personally I'd feel safer buying from a Vendor here. IMHO

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I will stop by the store today to look at it.
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I tried mixing the two myself, a 75PG/25VG mix and really liked the smooth vapor, but the throat hit just wasn't there on a 3.7V mod and the soapy after taste turned me off to VG.

I'm sure that there are ways to mask the soapy taste, but I'm good with just PG for now....
My mix is around 50/50 and I never get a soapy after taste either, seems my lips stay nice and creamy feeling to me that's the only way I can put it. That's why I mix my flavors at 20% so I can taste them and they taste good
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I go with 60/40 to 70/30 PG/VG and all points in between. I prefer to buy nic with more PG than VG for the simple reason PG is thinner and easier to get out of bottle into the mix and quicker I get the nic out and lid closed again the better I like it
Same here, I get my nic 80/20 PG/VG that way it's not to thick and I just add my VG to get it down to 50/50
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Has anyone used PG from Tractor Supply/ Is it vape worthy? I can't find much about it online
Chemically they're the same.

The PG available for treating cattle Ketosis is USP/Medical grade and considered a veterinary drug, hense the disclaimer on the label that it's not for human consumption.

While I only use USP Kosher Food grade PG in Wizard Labs' products, I would have no problems or concerns with using veterinary PG in my personal habit.
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My mix is around 50/50 and I never get a soapy after taste either, seems my lips stay nice and creamy feeling to me that's the only way I can put it. That's why I mix my flavors at 20% so I can taste them and they taste good
No surprise considering VG is a humectant.
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