> New to Esmoking need advice
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02-26-2009, 07:45 AM
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#1 | | Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Washington D.C.
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So I have been reading alot of threads here and it seems dripping, and juice is what most people prefer. So help me out, what should I get? I currently have a Smoke Everywhere 3.0 gold and an Njoy Ncig, what models are these? Are there basically a few models and they all go by different retail names?
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02-26-2009, 08:39 PM
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#2 | | Administrator and Owner Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Philadelphia
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Many of the models are the same thing named differently, yes. Not sure what the 2 you have are though. There are also units that are specific, or close to specific, to certain companies because they commissioned them a certain way by them, just for them.
Many people complain about the Smoking Everywhere stuff. Not sure if it is due to price, or quality, or both. But if you have one, roll with it  .
In regards to eliquid, there is a lot of good stuff out there. Check this listing - E-Liquid Listing some of the good ones are discussed there. Johnson Creek and Totally Wicked specialize in e-liquid, and are UK/USA based.
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02-26-2009, 09:44 PM
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#3 | | Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Washington D.C.
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Thank you for the info, I just placed an order with Johnson Creek, the welcome to esmoking kit. I was going to order the sample pack, but for a few more bucks I got the kit with some tools and empty carts.
I see now why the smoking Everywhere gets a bad rap. its been 2 days and went through all 5 carts. Im going to do as someone suggested and get a new atomizer from Totally Wicked and some of their liquid just for the SE. I like the fact that it looks like a regular cig, but it definitely lacks in performance.
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02-27-2009, 12:05 PM
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#4 | | Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Sioux City, Iowa
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Can't seem to find much info about the NCig. The only information I have found out about it so far is that it is a 2 hole atomizer. How long is it fully assembled?
There are basically 6 models of pensyles ecigs:
DSE801 - 155mm
RN4072 - 155mm
KR108 - 153mm
M201 - 154mm
JOYE302 - 108mm
Janty Dura - 112mm
The first four closely resemble the NCig and are also the most abundant. If I had to venture a guess, I would say it is a RN4072. I'll see if I can find out for sure though.
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02-27-2009, 03:59 PM
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#5 | | USA Supplier Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Nashville, Tn USA
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Yep The NCIG is just like the Penstyle (RN4072) we carry.
Actually comes from the same manufacturer.
The only difference is the batteries are made seperately somewhere else.
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02-27-2009, 04:58 PM
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#6 | | Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Sioux City, Iowa
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Hey, thanks for that.
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02-28-2009, 06:36 PM
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#7 | | Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Sioux City, Iowa
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Originally Posted by PureSmoker Rep Yep The NCIG is just like the Penstyle (RN4072) we carry.
Actually comes from the same manufacturer.
The only difference is the batteries are made seperately somewhere else. | Hey PureSmoker Rep, is the 4072 you carry a 4-hole atomizer? I think I read on the Njoy website that theirs is a 2-hole?! Maybe I read it wrong, or maybe it's a typo, or maybe they got updated ones and haven't updated the site... I dunno. Just curious. (I can't seem to find it on their site now, but I will update when I do.)
OH, and I noticed, Njoy doesn't sell their atomizers separately... interesting.
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03-02-2009, 04:37 PM
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#8 | | USA Supplier Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Nashville, Tn USA
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yep all atomizer we carry minus the pee-wee are 4 hole atomizers.
Njoy wants you to buy there kits and charge you for it. Then you get a 3 month warranty I believe. We all know that most atomizers usually only last between 3-4 weeks, so they charge you more to get their money back with all the returns they are going to do for you.
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03-02-2009, 06:02 PM
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#9 | | Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Sioux City, Iowa
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Thanks PS Rep!
This whole e-cigarette business is tough to keep up on. I'm like a kid in a candy store. I want to collect them all and know everything about them  .
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03-07-2009, 11:40 PM
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#10 | | Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: usa
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Originally Posted by xMarlboroMan I noticed, Njoy doesn't sell their atomizers separately... interesting. | Njoy told me last year that they would sell them (for $25) but don't list them on their site.
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04-12-2009, 01:59 AM
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#11 | | Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Tulsa, OK
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3 days now. I know thats not a long time but I cant seem to quit puffing on the damn thing. I think i need a higher nic level, like the 36mg. I just cant seem to get my fix. I keep craving an analog everytime i puff on my e-cig. I dont get it really.
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04-12-2009, 01:32 PM
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#12 | | Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Albany, New York
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jacobl,
Same thing happened to me. I started out with a DSE-901 and medium strength JC liquid. I was a pack a day 100's smoker for 20 years, and the medium liquid didn't do it for me. I still wanted to smoke.
I got some 36 mg liquid and quit tobacco the very next day. Shortly thereafter, I bought a penstyle (RN-4072), and I prefer the hit from that because the vapor seems hotter, and simulates a tobacco cig for me. Everyone's different.
I'd be remiss if I didn't caution you on the 36 mg stuff. I've never gotten anything worse than a headache from vaping a little too much of it, but I used to get a headache if I smoked too much tobacco too. Everyone is different. Just pace yourself at first, your body will tell you if you're doing too much. That being said, I don't believe I would have been successful quitting analogs without the 36 mg juice. I'm now working myself down from the 36 to the 24.
Good luck!
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04-12-2009, 03:37 PM
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#13 | | Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Houston, Texas / USA
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Seems to me that most people who are dripping, are having issues with atomizers. Just my personal opinion.
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04-12-2009, 03:41 PM
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#14 | | Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Houston, Texas / USA
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I started with the medium, but then started thinking about it. I cut mine with pure glycerin so why not by the strongest nic I can, and then cut it down. Heavy nic to low or no nic is all the same price, and you can double or triple your supple by cutting.
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04-12-2009, 03:48 PM
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#15 | | Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Houston, Texas / USA
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Originally Posted by jacobl 3 days now. I know thats not a long time but I cant seem to quit puffing on the damn thing. I think i need a higher nic level, like the 36mg. I just cant seem to get my fix. I keep craving an analog everytime i puff on my e-cig. I dont get it really. | Stick with it!! Maybe it's how you're puffing. I take a slow, steady, & deep draw. Then gently inhale, and gently exhale. 2 to 3 draws every 1/2 hour or so works fine with me. I was a 2 to 3 pack a day guy, and I'm using 18mg, which I cut 50/50 with glycerin.
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04-12-2009, 10:48 PM
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#16 | | Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Tulsa, OK
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I think i am going to try the 36mg. I used up 9 carts, and about 5 analogs just to get a fix. It might be because of the flavor. I think i gonna just get the tobacco flavor cause i dont get excited over that one. Too, its kinda fun for me. I love the fact that i can smoke in the house now and i think i am taking advantage of it. If i continue to go outside I probably wont smoke that much. With all that being said, I'm not gonna smoke at work unless outside either. For now i think my $7/day analogs was cheaper. lol
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04-17-2009, 01:43 PM
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#17 | | Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Tulsa, OK
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Well, I've received the 36mg from TW the other day and have been cutting it with glycerin. See other post. I have seemed to get it down a little better. And the higher mg is better. (not getting 36mg after cutting of course)
Analogs are definitely not cheaper now.
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09-11-2009, 04:55 PM
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#18 | | Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Southern California
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I have the NJOY NPRO and the NCIG . They by far have the best warranty out there. One year on all parts. Just register your product on their website. If it quits send them the part and they ship a new one right out. They have replaced 2 batteries and 3 atomizers for me with no problems.
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09-12-2009, 12:20 AM
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#19 | | Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: FLORIDA
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I JUST BOUGHT A FIVE PACK OF TW MEGAPOWERD BATTS SOLVED MY PROBLEMS. I WOULD PICK A PACK UP BEFORE THE SALE IS OVER JUST MY 2CENTS
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09-12-2009, 04:41 AM
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#20 | | Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: FLORIDA
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09-22-2009, 03:09 PM
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#21 | | Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Texas
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I have a SE gold and it is a rn4081, ive already bought spare parts that all work together for half the price of what SE will sell them to you. I only drip now and like jim said i have been buying the highest strength juice and cutting it with VG, it also gives me monster vapor compared to just the juice itself.
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09-22-2009, 11:35 PM
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#22 | | Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Michigan
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Yes the cheapest way to vape is by making your own juice by far. You can get everything you need to produce a no nic vapor in just about any town, and by ordering some unflavored nicotine and some flavors you can have tons of fun creating your own particular brand of taste. I made the mistake that many people do and get my nicotine juice in too high a strength in a real tasty flavor and you end up mindlessly vaping away at your vanilla cappuccino or something and next thing you know you have either a dangerously intoxicating level of nicotine in your system or the mother of all headaches with a really queasy feeling in the stomach as if awaiting on the vomitorium to be opened up. It's not pretty no matter how you look at it, lol! I was a pack to pack and half a day habit smoker for over 30 yrs and was only able to get the 18mg juice in the first shipment of the flavored juice and at first I was leery thinking it wasn't strong enough for me. 7 days later waking up from my nicotine induced coma I learned that the 18mg was perhaps a little too strong for chain vaping! I exaggerated there, I did not end up in a coma for 7 days, but there was a little while there lying on the couch where I would have gladly slipped into a coma just to get away from the feelings I had.
After that incident I stepped up my plan and went to Walgreens and picked up 16oz of PG for $12, some Fluval for cart filler, tomorrow I plan on flavor hunting and I already have 30ml of 30mg of tobacco flavored PG that I can flavor a bit and cut some more to get it under 10mg or so. I don't want to be on the higher dosages of nicotine anyway since it's the nicotine that is the addictive material in smoking! So it makes no sense to get away from burning tobacco only to still be addicted to the nicotine which is what got you addicted in the first place? Imagine what happens if in 6 months the government bans all forms of the E-Cig, then what? I am using this as a tool to help me quit smoking tobacco cigarettes if I can't have my E-Cig nicotine fix what is the easiest way to get my nicotine fix then....you see where this is going? I strongly urge everyone that is quitting with the E-Cig to take this into consideration and work on weaning yourself off of nicotine. I am so looking forward to the day I am making nothing but 0gm nicotine smoke juice for the pleasure of vaping not because I need to feed a monkey! Just some food for thought.
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09-23-2009, 02:37 AM
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#23 | | BANDWIDTH HOG Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Louisiana
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Snarky, good post. I agree with weaning yourself off Nicotine.
I am vaping half the strength I started out on. Maybe a little more juice per day, but not as much total Nic per day.
That just might extend my freezer stash to about 2 years. I should be able to get to zero Nic by then if it goes "illegal".
Keep on keeping on dude.
Rocket
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09-23-2009, 10:24 AM
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#24 | | Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Michigan
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Glad to see that you appreciate the post. It kills me to see so many ex smokers who are proud to be ex smokers yet they are still so dangerously close to the landmine of falling back into the habit of smoking tobacco if something were to happen that eliminated the E-Cig. I would really urge everyone that has had the success I have had staying away from analogs to start cutting their nicotine down until they are off of it, that's the real devil in smoking tobacco, the nicotine. It's like thc in marijuana, take that out of the equation and nobody smokes it. I still have a long way to go myself so don't think I am being a snob about anything please, I just see so many people that have quit smoking yet have either stayed the same with their nic levels or have actually increased the nicotine levels they are taking in.
It's kind of scary if you think of it in that way. With the e-liquid used in E-Cigs, I wonder how many people have actually ended up increasing their nic intake per day with these. Like the post that states he went through a bunch of carts and stuff to get his fix, nicotine is a dangerous drug and quite easy to overdose on, it don't take much. I catch myself chain vaping and stop myself, after that first experience of slight nicotine od. Something to keep in mind people, nicotine is a strong drug not an ingredient in candy no matter how good the vapor can taste.
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