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12-22-2009, 05:16 PM
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#1 | | Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: San Diego
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12-22-2009, 06:57 PM
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#2 | | I Want YOU!... To Vape! Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Sunny Florida! U.S.A.
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| Great Videos Robert!
Very concise, very explanatory and great video quality! 
Thank you!
Merry Christmas!
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12-23-2009, 07:21 AM
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#3 | | Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: San Diego
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| Thanks Man
I am glad to hear you liked it. I have allways tried DIY projects here and there- nerve thought I'd make a video like this. | |
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01-03-2010, 03:42 PM
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#4 | | Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: illinois
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| Robert, You r most generous. Watched the vids very instructive. Hope you make a million $'s on em. In the meanwhile you've got my brain cells in full gear. No competition mind you just myself and a few friends. | |
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06-30-2010, 08:03 PM
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#5 | | Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Texas
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| Robert awesome video's... Very precise. With your permission I would like to make one of my own using your design. I'm not too creative myself, give me a computer or a stereo I can do alot but not stuff like that. Do you mind me asking where do I get the batteries and what are they? | |
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06-30-2010, 08:07 PM
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#6 | | awarded title of Sir Arse Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Louisiana
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A good e-juice, fresh carto, and 3.7 volts from a REALLY REALLY BIG battery works for me. YMMV
Originally Posted by Rocketman
...Quasi was right...Once
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06-30-2010, 08:19 PM
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#7 | | Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Texas
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| Lol yea... I'm watching your newer vids now with all the electronics on the top... I'm gonna give it a shot but I think most likely I'll end up buying from you... I never thought I would enjoy this as much as I do. I actually enjoy it more than smoking, and I've been doing that 25 years. I quit May 20th.
I added you on youtube also. Now that I know you're into RC cars also... I have 2 so far. Thinking about selling one. | |
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06-30-2010, 08:19 PM
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#8 | | Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Texas
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| My name on YouTube is whoknows1976 by the way... lol | |
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06-30-2010, 08:21 PM
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#9 | | Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Texas
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| oops I subscribed to Robert... sorry kids are killin me tonight | |
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06-30-2010, 08:23 PM
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#10 | | awarded title of Sir Arse Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Louisiana
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| buddha76,
I'm not sure you are up to date.
Robert has revised his Detonator. This thread should be closed with a reference to the thread with his "NEW MODEL". The "OLD Model" blew up on him.
The 5 volt mod using stacked unprotected Li-ion cells should not be duplicated.
Rocketman
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A good e-juice, fresh carto, and 3.7 volts from a REALLY REALLY BIG battery works for me. YMMV
Originally Posted by Rocketman
...Quasi was right...Once
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06-30-2010, 08:25 PM
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#11 | | Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Texas
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| Is the new one using the cr123a batteries? | |
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06-30-2010, 08:27 PM
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#12 | | awarded title of Sir Arse Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Louisiana
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| It would probably be best to contact him directly.
I'm a 3.7 volt guy.
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A good e-juice, fresh carto, and 3.7 volts from a REALLY REALLY BIG battery works for me. YMMV
Originally Posted by Rocketman
...Quasi was right...Once
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06-30-2010, 08:33 PM
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#13 | | Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Texas
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| Cool Thanks Rocket. | |
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06-30-2010, 09:35 PM
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#14 | | Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: ShenZhen China
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| COOL !!! | |
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07-01-2010, 02:00 AM
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#15 | | Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: San Diego
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| the new design uses 2 cr123a's they are protected batteries
the new design is very safe- just like the silver bullet, the chuck or many other mods out there
here is a link to pt 1 of my new diy- YouTube - 1 Detonator DIY using Protected CR123A's Pt 1.mpg
preface explanation - YouTube - Detonator now uses CR123a's
rocket- the old detonator design did not blow up - the cheap blue cr2's vented/blew up- please watch the preface explanation above!
my right arm is broke- gettting surgury next tuesday so my typing sux! | |
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07-01-2010, 02:12 AM
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#16 | | Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: San Diego
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| i just removed my old diy cr2 videos- the new detonator diy is on youtube- cr123a's are much safer and all i will use now- bad typing cuz arm is broke! aahhgggg! | |
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07-01-2010, 02:17 PM
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#17 | | awarded title of Sir Arse Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Louisiana
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| Sorry for the reference to blowing up. Even with the cell "disassembling" itself the correct end of the mod gave it up first. I hope every one knows we don't want the mouth end to be the weak end.
I was concerned that someone would follow the old design from the old thread without incorporating your improvements.
The protected cells are the way to go for sure.
And get well soon,
Rocket
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A good e-juice, fresh carto, and 3.7 volts from a REALLY REALLY BIG battery works for me. YMMV
Originally Posted by Rocketman
...Quasi was right...Once
...OK, Twice...Maybe
Last edited by Rocketman; 07-01-2010 at 02:35 PM..
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07-01-2010, 10:36 PM
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#18 | | Home of Vaper Research Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Leftern Mass
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| Quote:
Originally Posted by buddha76  Cool Thanks Rocket. | I'm with rocket. Li Ion batteries are dangerous enough, so I stick to 3.7V. If you get a BIG battery, like an 18650, it will hold up at 4 volts for HOURS before dropping to 3.7, and stay at 3.7 for a day or two! If you're going to mod, stick with protected cells.
What you can use for 5V vaping is a TI booster module that boosts the 3.7V to 5V. Prepare to have a lot of atomizers on hand...I use a DC to DC regulator, 2.25A with an input from 8-18V and clamp it at 4.2V and I blow through Joye 510 attys in 3-6 days.
It's a simple mod and fits in a $1 flashlight, with a power plug from Rad Shack and a 12V lighter socket power cord. We don't need no steenking batteries!
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07-01-2010, 11:12 PM
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#19 | | e cigarette manufacturer Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Shenzhen
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| great videos. we really need to try hard to see youtube video from China. | |
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07-02-2010, 12:21 PM
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#20 | | Dismembered Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: USA
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| Quote:
Originally Posted by Hachiroku I'm with rocket. Li Ion batteries are dangerous enough, so I stick to 3.7V. If you get a BIG battery, like an 18650, it will hold up at 4 volts for HOURS before dropping to 3.7, and stay at 3.7 for a day or two! If you're going to mod, stick with protected cells.
What you can use for 5V vaping is a TI booster module that boosts the 3.7V to 5V. Prepare to have a lot of atomizers on hand...I use a DC to DC regulator, 2.25A with an input from 8-18V and clamp it at 4.2V and I blow through Joye 510 attys in 3-6 days.
It's a simple mod and fits in a $1 flashlight, with a power plug from Rad Shack and a 12V lighter socket power cord. We don't need no steenking batteries! | Have you installed the proper LOESR caps as recommended by TI? Maybe that will help with your atty woes.
They are cheap enough and small. These are the Nuck (The Fistpack) recommended ones. Digi-Key - 495-1529-1-ND (Manufacturer - B45197A2107K409)
Here's some nicely installed ones. | |
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07-02-2010, 12:28 PM
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#21 | | Dismembered Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: USA
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Originally Posted by Rocketman Sorry for the reference to blowing up. Even with the cell "disassembling" itself the correct end of the mod gave it up first. I hope every one knows we don't want the mouth end to be the weak end...
Rocket | Aren't the batteries' vent holes in the positive button? Wouldn't it make more sense then to build tube devices with the positive down, opposite the atty/face end? | |
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07-02-2010, 01:07 PM
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#22 | | Home of Vaper Research Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Leftern Mass
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Originally Posted by JohnnyJames | <sigh> No matter what I do, I burn up Genuine 510 attys at an alarming rate.
THe Atty Smasher is set for 4.2V, with a current output of ~2A, so the wattage is in the range of 8 watts, roughly about the same as a 510 on a battery...
I haven't made a mod using the battery booster yet. The specs on the TI chip are a set 5V output (hence the Fistpak's use of the MOSFET) at ~2A, for a total of 10 watts. I'd be burning attys daily!
The cartomizers appear to be more robust; they gum up and quit vaping rather than burning out (I did cause one to go stone cold...) so they might be the ticket for a good 5V mod.
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07-02-2010, 01:40 PM
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#23 | | Dismembered Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: USA
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Originally Posted by Hachiroku <sigh> No matter what I do, I burn up Genuine 510 attys at an alarming rate.
THe Atty Smasher is set for 4.2V, with a current output of ~2A, so the wattage is in the range of 8 watts, roughly about the same as a 510 on a battery...
| That's not correct, a large battery mod with a Joye atty is around 6.5W, a Joye batt around 4.5W.
What is the exact power source you are using? | |
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07-02-2010, 02:55 PM
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#24 | | Home of Vaper Research Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Leftern Mass
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Originally Posted by JohnnyJames That's not correct, a large battery mod with a Joye atty is around 6.5W, a Joye batt around 4.5W.
What is the exact power source you are using? | 12V lighter socket...aha. Yeah. I misquoted. at 3.7V and ~2.1 ohms, that's about 6.5 watts.
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07-02-2010, 07:20 PM
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#25 | | awarded title of Sir Arse Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Louisiana
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| JJ,
I think the design of the mod matters more than direction of the batteries. Except with a plastic mod. When a venting Li-ion battery gives up the ghost it will probably melt and burn through any plastic close to the positive cap (little vent holes relieve some pressure but when the battery gives it up violently the positive cap will come off and flaming battery guts will come out the positive end. If pressure inside the mod builds up the weak link in the mod case will let loose. Little vents are nice but a cell in flaming run away will overcome any small little holes. Pressure will continue to build up until the reaction slows down.
An example to evaluate would be the stacked battery flashlight mod that had one cell "disassemble" itself. Positive caps were up, flaming cell guts out the bottom. Flaming cell guts came out the weak end of the mod. One end should be strong, one end weak. Do not think that you will be able to "sense heat" and toss it away. Hot is too late, hot has already produced pressure.
Under no situation would you want the weak end of the mod pointed toward your face. Hot flaming battery guts in your face would be a bad thing. Try and contain it and the blowtorch will turn into a bomb. I don't think anyone is claiming to have a "containment vessel" as an e-cig just yet. The little vents in the positive cap of a cell are to vent small amounts of gas. In a catastrophic cell failure the entire cap will come off. Pressure should vent fast enough to prevent an experiment in model rocketry.
BTW, Too large a vent and a rocket produces very little thrust (a nozzle gives us more MVsquared thrust).
Since the 4th of July is here, some experimenting might be in order.
Pipe with one end capped, open end toward the sky,used to launch a small rocket (did that many time when younger). Firecracker dropped into the same pipe and boom, everything comes out the open end (the weak end). Look over various mods and try and imagine what would happen if an M80 went off inside. Which is the positive end of an M80?
Kids; don't play with pipe bombs without parental stupervision
My views only.
Rocket
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A good e-juice, fresh carto, and 3.7 volts from a REALLY REALLY BIG battery works for me. YMMV
Originally Posted by Rocketman
...Quasi was right...Once
...OK, Twice...Maybe
Last edited by Rocketman; 07-02-2010 at 07:41 PM..
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