Which model....

Snarkyone · 10-24-2009, 11:34 PM

The staple mod takes care of the airflow issue with the 901, it provides a gap for the air to flow nice and smooth. Oh and speaking of mods the new one I am getting is SICK, you people are going to cry. It's a lot like the mAhmba with the juice contained inside and pumped into the atomizer, to refill the juice you simply twist the atomizer tip and the juice bottle swings out! I am like a little kid a week before Christmas now this is going to take forever to get here!!!! These pics are from the first build it's much more polished now. I have been talking with the maker over putting these up on a website to sell and he was very receptive, I imagine the market would gobble these up fast as he can make them if not faster really since there already is a little bit of a wait time, not much but still waiting is waiting, lol!

highping · 10-25-2009, 12:12 AM

Hmmm, that looks an awful lot like the Carlos juicetank mod in concept.
Questions...envy...more questions...designing in my head...(nah too much work, i'll never pull it off)...more envy...more questions...

So how does the juice tank 'swing out' once you've got that cover screwed on?

Is that some sort of home-built atty?

Looks like it's soldered in. How do you replace it if (when) it burns out?

How do you clean the atty?

Is the juice pumped into the atty to wet it then drains back into the bottle?

How is it pumped...pushing the button on the side squeezes the bottle?

Is the final model going to have a USB recharge so you don't have to crack it open all the time to charge the batt? (should)

... more envy... How much is it going to be? I want!!!

firhill · 10-25-2009, 12:58 AM

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Originally Posted by highping

Do you have links to either of these?

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Originally Posted by firhill

Carlos did a video on his juice tank mod, showing all necessary components.

For features, IMO, best value mod out there is the Fist Pack that Nuck did...up to 6V from a single 3.7V battery and a built-in charger.

highping,

Sorry..i missed your post on previous page for links.

Lazarus posted the link to Nuck's Fist pack in post #50

Here's the link to the video on Carlos' mod..snarkyone posted pics of above. Post #24 on the thread has an updated video on it.

Snarkyone · 10-25-2009, 01:20 AM

Highping that is exactly what it is. It pays to ask questions. Watch the video that he has up that will answer the questions better than I can. Keep in mind that those pics are from his first mod he has improved the craftmanship quite a bit I can imagine. The cover itself is held in with magnets which is a great idea, rather than screwing the plate on and off every 3 days or whatever to refill the juice. I am not sure if he is making RCA atomizers on each one or not, if so then sweet it won't be much to change out. Looking at in on the video I see how it is on a L lever or something for the flipping out of the bottle. Yes the excess drains back into the bottle and yes you pump it once on the side and vape away.

I would not do the 6v option on the mod though, I have a 6v mod and it burns way to hot too fast. It's very easy to burn up your juice in no time and get that nasty taste in your mouth which you really don't want. In fact if you are that hot to trot for a 6v mod I will sell you my magnum mod once my Juicebox gets here. Yes I have the links to the video and everything if you wish to view it. You just insist on making me post links to other E-Cig forums don't you? It better not be some crazy buckeye scheme to get a wolverine banned! Firhill link is to a different site but same modder, that cheating rat, lol!

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/for...juice-box.html

highping · 10-25-2009, 11:40 AM

Thanks Snarky and Firhill. I've just watched the vids, now I'm stoked to try to build something. I was going to start off easy and just make a batt mod, but I already have a couple chucks, and I don't think I am going to be able to improve on that.
After watching the Carlos vids, I think I want to try to build my own atty. If I have any success with that, I will try to incorporate the juice tank part. I've been looking for a new hobby to play with, I think I've found it!!

BTW Snarky: Should I PM carlos and tell him to make sure you get the Scarlet and Grey model. hehehe

Snarkyone · 10-25-2009, 01:19 PM

Sure Highping but be warned I went to college in Columbus and still have friends there that will be more than happy to hunt you down!!! I have some fond memories of my college days in Columbus OH, there might even be some little Snarks running around causing havoc! I tended bar at Sugars on the west side, a little basement bar but a fun crowd. I don't know what it is about bartenders in Columbus but I never had a problem being approached by the hotties, that job almost cost me my marriage at the time, lol!

gasolinev8 · 10-27-2009, 01:46 PM

To update everyone, (in case you really were interested), I've decided to go with a 510. Sorry snark, you almost had me sold on the GC but I've already got it coming so you can't talk me out of it now. This just really seems to be the "go to" choice and since it's doubtful this will be my last PV purchase, I may as well get what all the others are judged by. Not to mention the compability with the 306 I use already. Thanks to all for the support and many happy vapes!!!

Stehle · 10-27-2009, 02:30 PM

Great choice gasolinev8!

Snarkyone · 10-27-2009, 05:45 PM

You don't have to apologize to me my friend you are the one that is getting screwed, not me. I already took my screwing with a 510 model. Sorry to hear about your impending loss of time and money. That must really suck.

I think that all these people that have fallen in love with the 510 are sadly misguided souls and I feel for them. I think that they don't realize that there is a better product out there but have not tried them, or they don't want to feel like the screwed up I don't know. I can say with all the confidence in the world that I have tried just about all the popular 3pc models and none of them hold a candle to the GreenCig, or the KR808D-1 for that matter. You will learn though. I just told a another member that if they got a GreenCig kit and didn't think it was for them I would get the 3pc kit that they want and swap them for it. I would have made you the same offer that's how confident I am, because I am certainly not rich enough to go shooting my mouth off about something like that if I didn't feel for certain that I would not have to buy a bunch of kits.

510 lovers don't waste your breathe with a reply, the things are junk and nothing you can say will change that. You can't even use a 510 out of the box to it's potential without modding it, why would anyone want that? I don't buy stuff that I have to work on to make it work out of the box do you? I certainly would not buy a car that I had to install the brakes on before I could use it to it's potential why would I do that with an E-Cig that's ridiculous. The cartomizers it's a matter of charging and slapping a cart on it for the day and go.

highping · 10-27-2009, 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Snarkyone

You don't have to apologize to me my friend you are the one that is getting screwed, not me. I already took my screwing with a 510 model. Sorry to hear about your impending loss of time and money. That must really suck.

Snarky... ya ol' codger..leave the guy alone and let him enjoy his purchase.

Gas... You will not be disappointed with the 510. It is my personal favorite. You should get a passthrough with an inline batt. It will help stretch the longevity of the stock batts. (rockymountainvapor $15 shipped)
I will soon find out how the greencig and 808 stack up against it. (since Snarky pestered me into getting them both

).
I should have both of them this week, so I will let you know if you are really missing anything. And it's like you said, it's not going to be your last PV, so if the GC ends up being an upgrade later, great. If not we can all just sell them to snarky.
In the meantime enjoy your new e-cig!

gasolinev8 · 10-27-2009, 06:15 PM

Ouch, Snarkyone. Looking back at my last post, I can see how some simple sarcasm may have offended you. I do apologize as that was not my intention. If anything, you gave a very respectable and considerable argument for the Green Cig and KR808 in general. You have a lot of passion for this product and I duely respect your position on it. My decision was not entirely based upon the 510 cheerleading however. The biggest factor to me was compatibility with the 306 I currently own. I already have a bogus battery and only 1 atty. I could buy spares and Green Cig kit, or just buy a basic 510 kit and have more than enough components laying around to get me through if something fails. Plus I feel I would be upgrading at the same time. If nothing else, I'll be able to say I've done the 510 thing. I will more than likely go cartomizer next go round as it does seem like it may be a better idea overall. With both products in my possession, I would hope to be able to make better recommendations to those around me and hopefully help someone else with a knowledgeable and experienced opinion.

Rocketman · 10-27-2009, 06:57 PM

Why would anyone want to make a custom mod? Why would anyone one want to build a custom rod when you can buy a brand new Smart car for less money than restoring a HotRod Lincoln? Or a 40 year old motorcycle, or - or - ? The ABSOLUTELY BEST CHOICE IS OBVIOUSLY the patch, gum, or other method approved by our guardian the FDA. They are trying to keep us safe by stopping bad products from coming into the market place.

There are so many options out there for us to chose from. The common person can not be expected to make an intelligent decision. Choice is bad. You will make mistakes, waste money, be unhappy. How many times has a Newb come to this forum and asked for help in making a decision on model, who to buy from? See, they are too stupid to make there own decisions. When will they learn, sheep don't lead.

There are kazillion resellers hyping their model as the best, sucking up your hard earned money just to line their own pockets. Hopefully the day will come when we won't have to make own own choices on things like ecigs, gun ownership, SUVs, healthcare, toilet paper (strong or soft).

I have made many bad choices with ecigs. Spent way more that I had planned. Tried flavors I didn't like. If there had only been the right model, the right juice, none of these other bad choices to lead me down the wrong road, I wouldn't have to participate in on-line forums. Wouldn't have to watch people get ripped off spending way too much on a starter kit, replacement parts, get all wound up over the FDA or U.S. Customs.

Those of you thinking about quitting smoking by going to the ecig - think twice. You will waste money, not like the hit or flavor, second guess your decision, maybe even fail.

Oh, by the way, my last puff of tobacco was January 25th.
And there is an ecig car charger in the Lincoln for my 510 and the swamp lady's 901.

The Rocket

sheep, you are all sheep, sheep don't lead.

Stehle · 10-27-2009, 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Rocketman

The Rocket

sheep, you are all sheep, sheep don't lead.

Amen brother, amen.

(...and to quote a line from the movie "Apocalypse Now"...

"Charlie don't surf!!!" ) 'nuff said.

highping · 10-27-2009, 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Rocketman

sheep, you are all sheep, sheep don't lead.

Not sure who your are directing that statement at rocket, but I can assure you I am no sheep. I am sitting at my test bench right now working on several different atty prototypes and juice delivery designs. I'm building the stuff that you and others will be using in the years to come. Unless you are planning on using whatever piece of crap you're using right now for the rest of your life.
Sheep? I think not my friend. I am one of the shepherds.

gasolinev8 · 10-28-2009, 06:27 AM

Sheep is what we were when we all followed along with our peers and got hooked on this filthy habit to begin with. If that were not the case, I doubt any of us would be having these discussions right now. Regardless of what model you vape, how long you've been vaping, what supplier you prefer or even how many mg you like to diy, we have all made a decision to try to relieve ourselves from the grasp of the demon that brought us here together to begin with. It doesn't matter if it's for our health, our families, or even just being more considerate to the public. We are no longer sheep. Leaders we have become.

LeCig · 10-28-2009, 03:12 PM

Great point gas!

Hachiroku · 10-28-2009, 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Rocketman

Why would anyone want to make a custom mod? Why would anyone one want to build a custom rod when you can buy a brand new Smart car for less money than restoring a HotRod Lincoln? Or a 40 year old motorcycle, or - or - ? The ABSOLUTELY BEST CHOICE IS OBVIOUSLY the patch, gum, or other method approved by our guardian the FDA. They are trying to keep us safe by stopping bad products from coming into the market place.

I have made many bad choices with ecigs. Spent way more that I had planned. Tried flavors I didn't like. If there had only been the right model, the right juice, none of these other bad choices to lead me down the wrong road, I wouldn't have to participate in on-line forums. Wouldn't have to watch people get ripped off spending way too much on a starter kit, replacement parts, get all wound up over the FDA or U.S. Customs.

Those of you thinking about quitting smoking by going to the ecig - think twice. You will waste money, not like the hit or flavor, second guess your decision, maybe even fail.

Hmmm...I like smoking. I had finally found the right mix of RYO tobaccos to give me what I was looking for, which is basically a Camel filter with a slightly fruity taste. I was rolling my own for about $0.75 a pack until...er, the Politicians decided there was money in tobacco. In Mass we got it double, because the state added a tax at the same time, and whoever came up with how many packs of cigs there are in a LB of tobacco was probably the same guy who came up with the equivalent formula for figuring powder cocaine from crack (near as I can tell from their formula, it takes about 1,100 LBS of cocaine to make a rock of crack about the size of a fly...but I digress...) so that now a LB of tobacco in the Bay State is SEVENTY FIVE DOLLARS! WTF?!?!

But I also decided I wanted to get away from tar, 4,000 toxic chemicals and gasses, and that maybe I wanted to be able to sing and breathe again...but I like smoking! I 'backed' into e-cigd with a Smoke Assassin, was a bit disappointed and came here. I got my 510, and I like it. However, it DOES NOT taste like a ciggy! You're either going to like vaping or not. It is what it is.

However, one more thing. I got supremely pissed off at the companies I work for (there are three of them) for giving me a run-around yesterday, and lit up a regular cig, one of my most favorite RYOs with my special blend of tobaccos, and it tasted like CRAP!! Even my 'harsh' 510 is mellower than tobacco, and I haven't had a nic fit since I started vaping regularly Friday afternoon.

I'm all for it, the report I saw by the FDA didn't recognize anything worse than in a ciggy, and in fact the report was that there was a lot LESS chemicals in an e-cig than in tobacco. I heard one Congressman tried to shoot it down, and was shot down himself; can anyone guess what state he is from?

OK. end of rant...

Snarkyone · 10-28-2009, 05:29 PM

Oh no dude, you did not offend me at all my friend, I am just a smartarse from waaay back in the day and sarcasm doesn't translate to well on the internet, it's all good friends.

Lazarus · 10-28-2009, 06:07 PM

Sheep farts cause Global Warming, or maybe you missed the point...err, report.

Keep up the good work guys

BTW, I still burn Cohiba Lanceros, and Robusto's too (when I can afford them) which also contribute to global warming. FDA loves them though, go figure.

Stehle · 10-28-2009, 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Lazarus

BTW, I still burn Cohiba Lanceros, and Robusto's too (when I can afford them) which also contribute to global warming. FDA loves them though, go figure.

I'm with Laz....{staring fondly at his humidor}... [Stehle sez]...

"Say 'allo to muh leettle fren!"

(Cuban models Rock!)

Rocketman · 10-28-2009, 09:07 PM

Ok, pot has been stirred. Is there a best model ecig? the best juice that tastes just like what you used to smoke? like an Upman? One that doesn't spit raw juice into your mouth every once in awhile? A cartridge and a battery that really lasts all day? That costs you less than $50 to get started, and no upkeep? The questions go on and on.

What is best? quitting all together is best. Sorry, but I couldn't seem to do that. I don't seem to like the same ecigs, flavors, mods, whatever, as many of you out there. I like to experiment, try different things, and offer advice (lots of advice, and for free too) based on my experiences. I'll tell you what I like, you decide.

The humidor is still stocked but I'm keeping it closed for now. One day I'll go back to my after sex Cohiba routine, but not until I'm sure I'm done with tobacco and vaping will satisfy my cravings. So far it's working.

Sheep? No we aren't sheep. You wouldn't be here, wouldn't have seen "Red" when you read my post if that was true. Read, study, become your own expert, make your own decisions. Don't let anyone tell you what is "best" for you. Vaping ain't smoking. It won't taste like your favorite brand, and it probably shouldn't anyway. Parts will fail, you will spend money, more than you think, but I bet a lot less than you did on cigarettes. A heck of a lot less than I spent on cigars.

Give in a little, compromise, failure shouldn't be an option. If you're on a tight budget, go slow, transition from "analogs" to the ecig. Don't get ripped off, shop, shop, and then shop. But always remember those famous words spoken long ago by someone that knows: Juice, you will need juice; and Spares, it won't work without spares.

The Rocket,
dogs, you are all dogs, if you ain' the - - - - - - - - -

Stehle · 10-29-2009, 09:48 AM

Yea!

Well said Rocket bud!

It would figure you would comment on the heels of my wonderful morning.

I gave a CC to the significant other again... who has also tried a myriad & variety of PV's (including BB mods and all manner of juice flavors including Champagne flavored nic-juice from Vermont V. even!)... for a carton of Marlboro Ultra Lights.... now $53 bucks & change.

So what would be her "best" model be? Yeah right

Many of you know me and of the collection I possess.

Its a matter of personal comfort; a willingness to want to really quit at all costs. (For me it was quit or die and I chose the former.)

I would have chose anything at first... and did!

I stated collecting as a result. Now after 6 months I think I just choose to vape out of ritual.

I go quite a while without even thinking what I have in my pockets, desk or next to my easy chair.

We all have to define what is right for us.

Hopefully she will too.

(Hopefully she will very soon!)

Rocketman · 10-29-2009, 09:50 AM

BEST OF LUCK.
A tango goes better with 2 people.

R

sweett4rt · 10-29-2009, 05:06 PM

I read on the web that they would send you a free Greencig if you were a retailer to try it out

highping · 11-01-2009, 12:46 AM

Snarky...Just an update...
I just got my greencig cartos and 808 batts last night and so far I'm pretty impressed. I also got the 808 cartos and 901 adapters on thursday and have been playing with those too.
First impressions.. The 808 cartos came prefilled with juice that wasn't too obnoxious so I was just using them out of the box on a 901 batt thursday night. Hit wasn't bad but I could still got the sense that I was getting some filler taste. Not too bad though.
Yesterday when I got the 808 batteries and greencig carts, I immediately plugged the 808 carto into the 808 battery. Hit was a lot better than the 901 battery was giving me.
Then I put my greencig carto on the 808 battery. Couldn't get airflow. So I examined the cartos a little and saw that the 808s have a slot in the center button and the greencig cartos did not. I staple modded one of the GC cartos and got it to work. Much better hit than the 808 carto, but OMG what a horrid taste

. It was the 'western tobacco' flavor that came in the greencig cartos. Worse tasting vape I have ever had (and I have to have tried at least a hundred flavors).
So after about three hits I knew it was time for some deconstructive surgery. I disassembled both the 808 and creencig carts to refill. I agree with you on the superiority of the greencig design. Very well engineered.
I also saw why I was getting filler taste from the 808 the entire element is encased in filler. I love the way the greencig made their design using the hair to keep the filler separate from the heater.
Anyway got 30 drops in the greencig and about 22 in the 808 and reassembled them both, Impressed with how much juice they were holding.
I have kinda set the 808 carto aside in favor of the GCs.
Today I decided to give a 'real world' trial to the GC on the 808 batts. I had both batts charged up overnight and ready to go. I had the one carto filled from last night and filled another this morning. Only on this one I gave it a thorough cleaning in vodka before I even added my juice. I think it will take days of use to get the 'western crapbacco' flavor to finally come out of that first one (yukkkkky), but the on I gave a bath to didn't taste too bad.

Anyway, The greencig cartomizers on the KR-808 batteries passed my 'real world' test with flying colors. I have used them exclusively today and two fully charged batts and two full carts have gotten me through an entire day.
This morning I actually put my little vaping case (full of juices, batteries, carts, paper clips, chargers, etc,etc,etc) in my bedroom so I wouldn't reach for it out of habit.
It has just been me and two prepped greencigs all day.
No dripping, no swapping batts, no juice bottles, no fiddling, etc,etc,etc.
Oh yeah, and nary a drop of juice in my mouth the entire day.
It has only been one day, but it's definitely looking good for the greencigs so far.
I can see just filling like 10 carts on Sundays and throwing two batts on the chargers before bed each night and running all week. That would be great! Maybe then the kids would stop making fun of my "purse" that I have to lug around to keep up with the 510's.

BTW: I dremeled a groove across the center button of the 808 battery, so no need for staple mod anymore.