Hachiroku

Ah! Ohms makes sense! I saw one guy say he put a diode in it (probably a Zener to clamp the voltage ~5V) and another one use a resistor. All that remains is the threaded connecotr and a suitable case ('black boxes' /battery holders just don't cut it! )

This is beginning to get interesting...

highping

Hehe.. it'll quickly become a hobby.
Altsmoke.com for the connectors; batteries just about anywhere; and the limits of your imagination for what to stuff it all into
Just let me know when you develop an auto dripper juice tank and I'll be all over it.
I'm an e-tech too so I can fill you in and help you out on some of the things I've discovered on the electrical end of vaping.

highping

Hey... Zeners that's a great idea that I totally missed for something that I'm working on. Thanks.
The problem with resistors is that you lose (waste) some of the power.

Hachiroku

DANG! I just looked up the specs for a stock 510 battery and the 'life' is 180maH! AAA batteries are more than that! No wonder everyone complains about the battery life! A standard, off-the-rack Energizer Lithium for cameras, etc is about 1200maH.

I can see why mods are popular.

I see a garage business in my future...

highping

Yeah, I'm using a 3000mAh in my chuck (that's = 16 stock 510's)...hence the 3-4days

As far as the garage biz, there's lots of comp. popping up out there lately (i.e. Jeff and his chucks; i think he's sold about 150 of them since he started mid Aug).
I think the key (and the hard part) is getting something professional looking at a price that ppl won't scoff at.

Snarkyone

Highping

First off, my post where I mentioned not wanting to name another forum was not directed at you, I didn't even see where you had mentioned one, lol! If everyone is all hot to trot for the place it's E-Cigarette-forum.com and all are welcome. If I get warned or slapped it's your fault!

I buy my stuff from Nhaler.com Drew always puts extras in every order from handy tools for filling carts to 30ml of juice I have gotten both and then some! You can also get it at Vapor4life and vaporkings but I never have used them so I can't vouch for service.

As for the burning the filler on the KR808D-1 if you vape it really dry I suppose you can, I know for a fact that it won't happen with the GreenCig carts which do work with KR808D-1 batteries. I get GreenCig kit and GreenCig carts due to the vast superiority in the engineering of the carts. The 3 piece models are like something Fred Flintstone would use compared to the KR808D-1 and the GreenCig cart makes the KR808D-1 look like a 8 track compared to a CD. The KR808D-1 would be a BMW while the GreenCig would be a Bentley or Rolls Royce, and the 3 piece models would be 72 Pintos or Gremlins.

I can't remember if that's all the questions you had about it or not. Let me know if there are more. The discount code again for Nhaler.com is "saveinNJ" without the quotes for 10% off, if you tell him that Snarky sent you he might charge you double though, lol! Kidding he wouldn't dare do that!

To those of you wanting a pro mod or hv mod take a look at this and tell me if you have any interest, it's a piece of cake to make, it fits in your hand so it's easy to hide and it looks great.

highping

Thanks for the info Snarky.
What kind of batts does your mod hold?
I think it looks pretty sharp. I would like the build info if you're willing to post.

And since we are showing off pictures of our babies...check out my 'Buck Chuck'...

Snarkyone

Damn shame it has such a crappy school logo on it but sweet I am a big fan of the chuck, lol! I didn't make this mod, I can't take credit for it. This is what is called a magnum mod which is basically a flashlight body using either 2 CR2 3v rechargeable batteries or one 18500 3.7v for a good day or so of vaping. I do have the instructions somewhere or another set can be found: How to make a 5 Volt "Detonator" Video aka Magnum 5 volt - e-cigarette-forum.com • The place for electronic cigarette reviews, news and chat

That's not the same exact thing as the one I have but it's the same principle. A member by the name of Shreck built the one I have, since I was in too much of a hurry and I can't stand around and do projects like I used to. It's not too hard though if you can solder and you should be able to do it, there are even some solderless mods as well.

Lazarus

Off topic....Just gotta say my heart goes out to you Buckeye fans...Perdue knocked you back from 9 to the Ozone layer (19th). Problem is, can't even find the Boilermakers on the radar. Think you guys got some serious Q-back probs.

On topic, the chuck looks like one of the best all around commercially available mods.

I only wish a few other mods I have seen would become available to the public.

Hachiroku

Yeah. This is kind of what I was thinking of.

Depending on sources for parts I'm thinking in the $17-22 dollar range.
If parts come cheaper, I'll make (sell?) them cheaper.
I'm an e-tech; the ideas are easy, the parts are hard!

highping

We'll see in Nov Snarky

Everybody has a bad day every once in a while. I think he'll come back strong next week.

Let me guess...the GG transformer?
... or better yet the mAhmba... I would love to get my hand on one of these....



To me, a working dripper juice tank is the holy grail of PVs

firhill

Carlos did a video on his juice tank mod, showing all necessary components.

For features, IMO, best value mod out there is the Fist Pack that Nuck did...up to 6V from a single 3.7V battery and a built-in charger.

highping

Do you have links to either of these?

Snarkyone

Yeah can find them easy enough. Have you bothered to go to that place you badgered me into telling you about? Lots of good information there on these mods. I really don't like to grab from one place and post in another without permission from the OP. I know a few of them have an open copy policy though so it's no bid deal, it's just a common courtesy thing with me which is odd since I am about the rudest prick you can ever deal with when things aren't right.

The parts for that mod come out to right around the $20 range. I have seen that what did they call it a UPAC mod or something with the self contained juice! I too am an electronics engineer I spent over a decade in semiconductor industry before a spine fusion surgery forced my retirement. I can't get around like I used to or stand in one place to long or sit....

highping

'badgered you into telling me'...You're funny snarky. You didn't need to tell me, but others probably appreciated it (except the OPs). Did you get that slap yet If not, I'm kinda busy these days, but I'll come up there and slap you if you want. (oh wait, I'll just let my team slap your team instead )

But to answer your question..No ( sheepishly looking at the ground), I didn't bother searching the other site. I was hoping to find something new and different here. Oh well...off to go look.

Snarkyone

Nope, no slap yet, why can't I get away with the big stupid stuff I do? I get caught for that crap and end up paying fines or something. I know what you mean about hoping to find something new and different here, I get tired of the same stupid questions or supplier cheerleaders over there.

highping

Snarky, which model greencig did you get 220 or 300? I'm still back and forth on whether to get one or not (also whether or not to get a KR808D). I'm having trouble with the high price tags on both these models. I definitely can't justify getting both, so since you have now used both, here's another round of questions...

1) Now that you've used both, how much better is the green cig than the KR808?

2) I've checked out some vids on refilling cartomizers (KR808) and it looks like it's a PITA. They look like they hold about 15 drops or so (about 2-3hrs of vaping for me), so I don't really want to go through what looks like a 10 step process of filling 6-8 times a day. So, my question, do you find it a pain to refill them? refilling KR808 vs greencig?

3) How does the hit, full cart runtime , and batt life compare on the two models?

4) Also, since you have touted both these models as the best, I have to know.. have you used a 510 on a big batt (18650)? The reason I am asking is that (to me) the 510 on a high capacity, 4.2V battery is as good as vaping gets today. So I'm wondering how the stock equipment of those models stacks up against the modded 510.

Snarkyone

I have the GreenCig 220 kit with the 2 longer batteries, 4 carts and a wall charger. After trying both the KR808D-1 and the GreenCig in my opinion the GreenCig is the better model and choice. The carts last longer, are made out of friggin soft METAL not PLASTIC. The engineering is so far beyond what even the KR808D-1 has it's unreal! As far as how much better it's a little too soon to make a good comparison but off the top of my head it's better but on a scale yet to be determined.

The refilling is easy as pie with the KR808D-1. Pop the plastic end off, remove the little gasket/o-ring, tilt the cart as you would a beer mug and drip while turning the cart around while tilted so you evenly saturate the filler. The filler looks like a roll of toilet paper on it's side with the atomizer poking up through the hole. Easy as pie and no mess like the 510 or m401 or other 3 piece models. In fact, the first time I did it I didn't even have to wash my hands, I dare you to do that with a 3 piece unit.

The GreenCig refill process is slightly different and I am still looking into the best way. I took the plastic end off, under that is a O-ring that you need to remove, then you have a cart inside the cart that has the filler in it. This cart is turned upside down so the opening is facing towards the battery. Tap the cart on the table a few times and it will slide out far enough to grab it with some tweezers and pull the rest of the way out. At this point it looks like a small clear 510 cart in a way. Pull the filling out and fill the cup, put the filler back and reassembe minus the o-ring if you choose. I did that method but seem to run into a problem with draw afterwords that I need to figure out what the problem is, now it is as if there is something blocking the air flow and I get no draw of air. Now I am looking into a slightly different and hopefully even easier method. That process really only took about 3 minutes by the way using a dental pick and a long pair of nice tweezers. I am going to get a needle and try refilling it from the battery end. I have been able to drip into that end and have it work but it makes a hell of a mess and waste too much juice. I will edit the post later to let you know how that method works out. Overall though it's not as big a PITA as you think from the description. I thought the same thing you did when I first read through it. Right now the KR808D-1 refilling I have down to a matter of a minute to do the whole process if that. The GreenCig will be about that too once I figure out why the draw was an issue or faster if I like the way the needle works. Either one is just as easy and nowhere near as messy as 3 piece units. The hit on both models is out of this world. Hits great with a lot of vapor. You really get the flavor big time. Some complain that the throat hit isn't there but I have no issues with it. I think those people confuse harshness for throat hit a good amount of the time. That would explain the popularity of the 510 which in my mind is a crappy design with a crap battery that was rushed to market.

The battery life of the GreenCig is longer I believe than the KR808D-1 due to the circuitry in the battery that cuts off after so long a drag and it monitors your usage and if you are using it too much it locks you out for a short period of time. Some people may bitch about it but I like the idea, since I have a habit of mindlessly vaping away on the good tasting flavors and get a little bit of nic od, lol! I was able to make a KR808D-1 cart last me 24 hr period, and the same thing with the GreenCig if not a few hours longer. The GreenCig holds a ton of juice compared to others.

Yes, I have a big battery mod for my 510. I have used that with 2 CR2 batteries and with one 18500 and I do like it. As for how the GreenCig and KR808D-1 stack up is just a tad bit unfair but I understand what your getting at I think. Obviously the big battery mods will last a lot longer before needing to be recharged. The hits are different depending on the voltage as you are aware. I think it's too hard to really say. I like the HV mod with some juices and on others I prefer the GreenCig. I have not used the 18650 battery in my Magnum mod but I should see if it would fit, the 18500 does so I think it might, since the one I use I need some pvc for spacer duty. To me the higher the voltage the more the throat hit. It's my understanding that the GreenCig is at 3.7v or so, then the mod would give a little better hit. One thing to consider though is with that mod you still are jacking with the carts, still swapping them out far more than you like, the mess, and other things that don't need to be repeated, we are all aware of the problems of the 3 piece units.

If you want longer time between cart changes, good battery life, excellent flavor and vapor along with a good throat hit then look no further. I think people would be happy with either unit. I hope I answered your questions with enough info if you have more just post I will answer them to the best of my knowledge.

highping

Thanks for the info Snarky... I think I might just wait on getting a new model. You mentioned in your post about the cutoff on the greencig... That's a major turn-off for me.

I didn't used to consider myself as a heavy vapor, but after thinking about it I guess I am. For one thing I usually vape 36mg. 24mg is about the lowest I use. Anything lower just seems to weak on the throat hit. (and I do mean throat hit and not harshness, I know a lot of ppl confuse the two). I also take loooong drags and 'double drag' (if that's even a real term). By double drag I mean.. fill mouth, inhale, blow out nose while filling mouth the second time, inhale again. The button on my chuck is sometimes pressed for 10 seconds strait. So, all that being said, I don't think an auto batt is going to do it for me.

One thing I was hoping to improve with going to a cartomizer model was not having to drip all the time. I may end up getting the adapter that I have seen that will allow a 808 cartomizer to screw into a 510 batt. Then I can try it on my chuck and see how it goes. I'm hopeful that the heavy vaping won't overwork the cartomizer, but I guess I will just have to try it and see. It won't cost me much to try.

Thanks for the refilling tips too. They will come in handy when I get into it.


BTW: speaking of 'supplier cheerleaders'...I think you might have some Nhaler pom-pom's yourself...and maybe a little skirt with a big 'N' on it?
(I'm just razzin' ya, I hope you don't take it the wrong way)

Snarkyone

It's all good, I could see where one could think that, although I do try like hell to mention more than just one place to get any product I mention. Nhaler and Drew have just been real good to deal with compared to some places and I can be a real load to deal with. I am not a pleasant person when I am not happy with something I paid for if I get blown off or the run around.

I understand completely about your fears with the cutoff, I had the very same one but let me tell you this. It don't cut off until 7 seconds anyway and that is actually a pretty long drag. I know exactly what you mean by the double drag or primer puff, I do the same technique. That's the way the auto battery works best with these things anyway no matter if it's a GreenCig, KR808D-1, or a M401 model. The point being is that the 7 second cutoff is not so much a problem really. One way around it though is to use a KR808D-1 manual battery with the GreenCig cart, in case you didn't know the carts will work on either one which is nice for the KR808D-1 owners. You can get a nice starter kit of the GreenCig @ Vapor4life.com or what's the name of that other place Highping, that starts with an N, lol! Either place is going to provide great service, and the best damn E-cig on the market. After the first 24 hrs with a 100% GreenCig kit, I am really starting to fall in love with this thing. I wish I had gotten it first, I really do.

The adapter idea is a good one and there are sites that sell them. You can also use a 901 battery from what I understand. I don't have a 901 so I can't tell you how well it works but I do know that it works. I think you might have to put a staple between the battery and the cart to have the airflow or something but whatever the trick is it's a simple one. I can find out exactly what it is and let you know if you have a 901 and want to check it out.

highping

Snarky.. I'm glad you take my jabs in good spirits
I totally understand what you mean about Nhaler. I got my first order from them this week and was very pleased to see that they had thrown in the metal tin and a useful cloth bag. I could tell right off the bat, before even cracking open the first bottle of juice, that I was gonna like this dealing with this company. And the juice is awesome. I immediately placed another order. Still small orders right now, just 5-6 sampler bottles until I hone in on the flavors I like. But soon I will be ordering big bottles (and you will probably see me out there with some NH pom-poms too ).
I too am of the thinking that if a supplier is treating their customers that well and providing a top notch product, they deserve to have the word spread to others. That's why you will see me 'selling' the Chuck every chance I get.

I have just ordered some cartomizer-to-901 adapters from Vaporcountry and some 510batt-to-901atty adapters from Altsmoke. Now I just need to order some cartomizers (from Nhaler with my next round of sample juices) and I will be cartomizing on the chuck in no time.
Sadly, I probably could have just bought the 808 kit for less than I'm going to have in all the adapter stuff, but I do have a bunch of 901 attys collecting dust that I will now be able to use with all my 510 stuff... dozens of batteries, big chuck, little chuck, passthroughs...damn...I'm turning into a collector (and you should see the shelf in my fridge that has been reserved for juices. I bet there's 40-50 bottles in there, it's ridiculous).

So... the KR808D and the G220 cartomizers are compatible?
So I could get either one to try with my new frank-en-cig-chuck-thingy ??

Snarkyone

Yep, they are compatible, if one fits then the other will fit the same adapter or battery. Try the HV French Vanilla Coffee I could literally pour that stuff on my pancakes. You don't need an adapter for the 901 battery to cartomizer cart. You need it for the 510 but not the 901 it fits on it all by itself.

firhill

You can't use a cartomizer on stock 901 batteries..unless you derive great pleasure from the feeling your head is about to implode from sucking so hard.

highping

Yeah, I think the only point of the adapters is to give a source for airflow.

I will order some of the french vanilla coffee when I get my cartos. I just wish they had that flavor in the 24mg lineup. I like how thick and slow burning the HV stuff is, I just don't get the throat hit at that 12mg nic level. It seems like it's more of a lung hit. I guess I could get the HV stuff and mix in some 48 or 60 to bring the nic up.

Lazarus

OSU did come back and stomp them Gophers back in their holes

I like tinear's mod's but I am more partial to the Fang. You will see this mod become available soon...

Cisco did a 2X 10440 5v Penstyle Laser Pointer mod that is really slick, only he and Dumwaldo own any that I know of. (second part of the vid)

Couple of custom creations from Cisco - Vapers Forum

Nuck's fistpack on steroids is my other fave:

Fist Pack on Steriods - Vapers Forum