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12-05-2011, 02:46 PM
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#1 | | Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Houston, Tx.
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| In order to provide the longest life of these batteries is it best to let them die completely or recharge before complete power loss. I have heard too many directions from mfgs. of devices too the point I don't know who to believe. I remember in earlier days they said to train your battery whatever the hell that meant.
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#2 | | I like it hot and wet! Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Tonganoxie, KS
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| That was for NiMH batteries, bacause if you charge them before they are empty they develop a "memory", and will get back to the same point and then rapidly discharge. Doesn't happen with Li batts.
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12-05-2011, 03:41 PM
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#3 | | Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Houston, Tx.
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Originally Posted by HiRezL  That was for NiMH batteries, bacause if you charge them before they are empty they develop a "memory", and will get back to the same point and then rapidly discharge. Doesn't happen with Li batts. | So I assume that it is best to let the battery completely go dead before charging. Does it hurt to recharge say at 50% spent on the set of batteries since I have not received my second set. Second set was an after thought...pretty stupid on my part. (lol)
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#4 | | Why So Serious ? Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Almost Heaven WV
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Originally Posted by blueaussie So I assume that it is best to let the battery completely go dead before charging. Does it hurt to recharge say at 50% spent on the set of batteries since I have not received my second set. Second set was an after thought...pretty stupid on my part. (lol) | You can charge the Li-ion batts any time, won't hurt a thing 
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12-05-2011, 04:12 PM
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#5 | | Haloween Hater Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: The Shoe
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| With Li ion batts I have read that recharging when they are not completely drained prolongs their life. Go to the site http://batteryuniversity.com/ for some good info on batteries. | |
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12-05-2011, 04:49 PM
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#6 | | Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Houston, Tx.
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| Thanks Brutus and PV, I appreciate it! I need to gather as much info my one brain cell will hold!
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#7 | | Modder Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: rhode island usa
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| try not to use up all voltage in the cell, charge between 25 and 50% left so that there is no real major damage done, does it have a memory effect? yes. as bad as nicad or nimh no not at all as bad but it is there and i know this from personal expirance.. | 
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12-05-2011, 05:48 PM
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Originally Posted by tek try not to use up all voltage in the cell, charge between 25 and 50% left so that there is no real major damage done, does it have a memory effect? yes. as bad as nicad or nimh no not at all as bad but it is there and i know this from personal expirance.. | Thanks Tek, When using on a VV how do you know before it is out of power, I am using these in a Infinity pro.
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#9 | | Couldnt take it anymore Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Mod impersonation carries a stiff penalty YKWYA
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| You dont know...cant tell its getting ready to cut out either...you'll figure out about how much time you will get out of it in a little while and just change them out before you reach the bottom...even so the batteries still have a protection circuit that will hopefully prevent any long term damage to them.. 
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#10 | | Vapezilla Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Heaven
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| Yeah, you can't tell, especially since there isn't any noticeable drop in power. Mine will go for about 10 hrs using 1.5ohm dual coils but I try to charge them around mid to late day before they die. Do you have back up batteries? | |
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| i go about 6 for 8-900mah, 20 for 2200mah.. and 5 days on a set of 4000mah | |
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#12 | | Haloween Hater Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: The Shoe
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| It is great to hear that the power is consistent with the Ipro. I have to change the battery in my silver bullet three times a day because there is a noticeable drop after 4 hours, sometimes sooner. | |
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#13 | | Vapezilla Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Heaven
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Originally Posted by Brutus It is great to hear that the power is consistent with the Ipro. I have to change the battery in my silver bullet three times a day because there is a noticeable drop after 4 hours, sometimes sooner. | I have that happen with the epower. Very annoying too. With the IPro, I'm shocked each time I kill off the batts and even give it a little shake cuz can't believe the batt is dead. The last vape is as strong and good as the first. | |
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12-05-2011, 07:17 PM
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Originally Posted by RY4 Yeah, you can't tell, especially since there isn't any noticeable drop in power. Mine will go for about 10 hrs using 1.5ohm dual coils but I try to charge them around mid to late day before they die. Do you have back up batteries? | No, like a dummy the second set was an after thought, sometimes it's hard to get my !*%@
together, They are on order now though. Jeez I always miss the boat. Thinking is not one of my strong suits.
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#15 | | Vapezilla Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Heaven
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Originally Posted by blueaussie No, like a dummy the second set was an after thought, sometimes it's hard to get my !*%@
together, They are on order now though. Jeez I always miss the boat. Thinking is not one of my strong suits. | Don't beat yourself up. Ya just had one of my blonde moments... they tend to rub off sometimes. I was so excited the day they were available, I didn't think about it when I ordered. I had to use my epower to wait on my infinity batts to charge. Always good to have an extra pair so when the batts die, you don't have to wait for them to charge. | |
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#16 | | Hypervaporation in effect Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Deep in the Heart of the greatest state in the Union
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| Don't let them go "dead" or they will be.
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| Nah..need 5 sets..to be safe..ya know..in case you loose power or something...and maybe a generator might be a good idea...
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Originally Posted by blueaussie In order to provide the longest life of these batteries is it best to let them die completely or recharge before complete power loss. I have heard too many directions from mfgs. of devices too the point I don't know who to believe. I remember in earlier days they said to train your battery whatever the hell that meant. | Nope. run them down to ~65% and then charge them.
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#19 | | Couldnt take it anymore Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Mod impersonation carries a stiff penalty YKWYA
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Originally Posted by wetwire Don't let them go "dead" or they will be. | actually Ive killed the unprotected several times..after a couple cycles they come back..
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#20 | | Hypervaporation in effect Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Deep in the Heart of the greatest state in the Union
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| I've brought em back from the dead also, but some chargers won't cooperate. And it does hurt their longevity. Easier to just tell BA NO!
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#21 | | Couldnt take it anymore Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Mod impersonation carries a stiff penalty YKWYA
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| well not all the way dead...but combined to 3V..thats when the Ipro switching regulator says nuhuh...
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#22 | | Hypervaporation in effect Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Deep in the Heart of the greatest state in the Union
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| I have literally brought them back for less than 1 volt registering on two 18500s. They had been hanging on the rock since the dawn of man apparently. They work just dandy, but it was a trick to jump start rm.
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#23 | | Couldnt take it anymore Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Mod impersonation carries a stiff penalty YKWYA
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| 50 amp car charger in start mode?
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Originally Posted by tek i go about 6 for 8-900mah, 20 for 2200mah.. and 5 days on a set of 4000mah | next mod..8D 
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#25 | | Hypervaporation in effect Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Deep in the Heart of the greatest state in the Union
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Originally Posted by berger 50 amp car charger in start mode? | LOL.. naw not quite that bad. Two EMTs paddles across the terms. jj btw
I would be happy to PM how, but not gonna be responsible for posting it here. Some might call it less than safe. Works dandy though when nothing else will and they seem to be no worse for the wear.
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