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Old 06-07-2012, 08:17 PM   #1
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Hello all,

Chris Manic, here. I'm writing with the hope of gaining a little insight regarding an issue I'm having with my new Lava Tube. I've been using high resistance 3.0 Ohm attys and have had zero issues thus far, but when I snap on a freshly-filled 510 Boge cartomizer I can't get a single pull, regardless of the voltage I set my PV to. I suspect that it may have something to do with the fact that the cartos I'm attempting to use are of the low resistance variety and only pump out 2.0-2.4 Ohms. If anybody out there can shed some light on this, I would greatly appreciate it.

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No expert on these things...

BUT, if it is working on another carto, IMO it isn't the LT. Have you tried that same carto that isn't drawing on a different device?

Could be a bad carto?

OR,

Could be the carto isn't making contact well with the LT and getting power. I have an ego adapter that works fine with most of my stuff, but skirted carto's, (what the adapter is for) still don't make good contact for some reason.
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Old 06-07-2012, 09:18 PM   #3
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may be detecting it as a short and not firing or could be exceeding the 2.4 amp limit...my guess would be the first
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I run Boge LR cartos on my LT just fine. There may be a problem with its 510connection. Addys and the and cartos contact a little differently I believe. Try getting a 510 shorty adapter or an ego adapter and see if it will fire with those
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Hey Guys,

Thank you for your quick replies. The cartomizer I originally used turned out to be a dud, replaced it with a new one and everything works great! I've been using attys for a while and just made the switch to Boge cartos, so I was a little unfamiliar with them and didn't think to try yet another one with my setup. Sorry about that.

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Hey Guys,

Thank you for your quick replies. The cartomizer I originally used turned out to be a dud, replaced it with a new one and everything works great! I've been using attys for a while and just made the switch to Boge cartos, so I was a little unfamiliar with them and didn't think to try a second one with my setup. Sorry about that.

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Sucks to have spent money on a dud, but good to know that the Lt is working!

Enjoy it! (I sure as heck am).
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Sucks to have spent money on a dud, but good to know that the Lt is working!

Enjoy it! (I sure as heck am).
Yeah, it was the oddest thing. I got a Boge carto 5-pack, and the first two I used didn't work with my LT, so it left me plenty confused. Third time's a charm, right? Haha. Thanks again.

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Chris, have you tried prying the center contact on the carto? Sometimes the positive contact is seated a little to deep or the flange thickness is to thick,it only take a thousandth to keep it from making the connection. Worth a shot
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Old 06-07-2012, 10:15 PM   #9
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Yeah, it was the oddest thing. I got a Boge carto 5-pack, and the first two I used didn't work with my LT, so it left me plenty confused. Third time's a charm, right? Haha. Thanks again.

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Chris, have you tried prying the center contact on the carto? Sometimes the positive contact is seated a little to deep or the flange thickness is to thick,it only take a thousandth to keep it from making the connection. Worth a shot
Great minds. Just what I was going to suggest. I have had some carts where the center connector for one reason or another has been pushed in too far.

Chris, GENTLY pulling on the center connector ON THE CARTO by inserting a paper clip or small jeweler's screwdriver may allow the pin to make contact. Also, what do you think of the Boges flavor wise. Some of mine have been good, but a lot are really bad.
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Chris, have you tried prying the center contact on the carto? Sometimes the positive contact is seated a little to deep or the flange thickness is to thick,it only take a thousandth to keep it from making the connection. Worth a shot
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Great minds. Just what I was going to suggest. I have had some carts where the center connector for one reason or another has been pushed in too far.

Chris, GENTLY pulling on the center connector ON THE CARTO by inserting a paper clip or small jeweler's screwdriver may allow the pin to make contact. Also, what do you think of the Boges flavor wise. Some of mine have been good, but a lot are really bad.
Ditto. I'd give you good odds on that as well.
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Old 06-08-2012, 06:39 AM   #11
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Yea come to think of it boge lrs gave me fits on an epower...but then STs did too on that thing and they made the device..Im still convinced they dont own a ruler
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I think the ePowers must have the center contact a little lower, I don't use Boge's, but on all my CE2's, I have to wiggle the center and lower it a little when disassembled to make them work on the ePowers and NoEgo's.
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Chris, have you tried prying the center contact on the carto? Sometimes the positive contact is seated a little to deep or the flange thickness is to thick,it only take a thousandth to keep it from making the connection. Worth a shot
Commonly referred to as "Post Pulling". Seems to correct the issue most of the time. Check out this video for a quick how to.
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That's a good link.

Please IGNORE anyone that recommends effin with the center pin in your PV. Mess with the contact in the $2 carto but NOT the PV.
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and 510 to 510 adapters are cheap..much rather screw up the threading on that then the PV's connector..and then you can "eff" with the center pin on the adapter..
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and 510 to 510 adapters are cheap..much rather screw up the threading on that then the PV's connector..and then you can "eff" with the center pin on the adapter..
Yup, and if ya don't like the looks of adapters get snazzy looking dripshield to spiff up the looks.
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and 510 to 510 adapters are cheap..much rather screw up the threading on that then the PV's connector..and then you can "eff" with the center pin on the adapter..
Yup, that's what i do now.
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Great minds. Just what I was going to suggest. I have had some carts where the center connector for one reason or another has been pushed in too far.

Chris, GENTLY pulling on the center connector ON THE CARTO by inserting a paper clip or small jeweler's screwdriver may allow the pin to make contact. Also, what do you think of the Boges flavor wise. Some of mine have been good, but a lot are really bad.
Thanks for the suggestion, I'll likely use that method if I run into another bum carto. I'm new to Boge cartomizers, but the one I finally got to work gives off a great flavor and I'm getting plenty of vapor production. It's also nice to forgo the constant direct dripping I had grown accustomed to with my attys.
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That's a good link.

Please IGNORE anyone that recommends effin with the center pin in your PV. Mess with the contact in the $2 carto but NOT the PV.
Yeah. Let's ruin a $50 PV to get a $1.75 carto to work.

Oh, wait...*I* used to eff with the center pin! (Only on units I made...)
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Commonly referred to as "Post Pulling". Seems to correct the issue most of the time. Check out this video for a quick how to.

Thanks for that link!

I did a search in youtube, and came up with one for messing around on the pin on the mod. Didn't feel safe doing that at all!

My ego skirted carto's now work with the adapter on the LT!!!

Very happy!!!
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That's a good link.

Please IGNORE anyone that recommends effin with the center pin in your PV. Mess with the contact in the $2 carto but NOT the PV.

Needed to add: "when attaching the carto to your PV, put it on FINGER TIGHT." I have pulled the center pin and even putting it on finger tight have managed to drive the pin back in so the next time it doesn't make contact again.
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When you raise the center pin (either carto or mod) up from the surface of the insulator there is nothing to apply force to make a good solid electrical connection. The pin will slide in the insulator as soon as the rubber material relaxes. No pressure=weak contact. When the center pins are seated on the insulator there should be some compressive force on the insulator pushing the pins together making a good electrical connection.

Each time the center pin moves it flexes the wire connected to it. The power wire in the mod or the heater wire in the carto. Flex these enough times and the connection will break.

Another problem, especially with the mod side of the connection is a center pin that is not properly seated may turn a little bit each time a carto is screwed on. This twisting also twists the attached wire in the mod and weakens the connection eventually breaking it.

Do what ever it takes to vape but remember each time you eff with a center pin you are causing itty bitty damage to at least one side of the connection.


A cheap way of fixing most center pin issues is to take material from the outside of the 510 connector moving the center pins closer together. Use a cheap adapter and remove just a few thousandth of an inch from the shell. This will bring the center pins closer together. A small flat jewelers file works well for this.
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Mad vapes sells circuit board spacers you can drop in between for those who are afraid to mess with center pins. Just drop one in and screw cart over it.
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The 601-510 adapters that ship in with the Persei need mention here. The adapter has a floating center pin that is just a little longer than required to make the positive connection. Initially I was a bit less than thrilled about the gap that occurred. Either above the adapter or below it .. you choose by how you put it together. The Good thing about this type of floating +pin design is that it eliminates this particular scenario. All you new Persei owners should observe when you get your new shiny.
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Mad vapes sells circuit board spacers you can drop in between for those who are afraid to mess with center pins. Just drop one in and screw cart over it.
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