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09-07-2010, 06:38 AM
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#1 | | ☆ The So-Cal Vaper ☆ Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Southern california
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| this DIY is intended for those new to vaping with the KR808D-1. if you are a veteran you might not need to read on. likewise if you own the newer style 808 battery with the solid round ring style end. if you do in fact own the newer style, the only thing you could do to remedy air flow problems is to use a pin vise and open up the holes around your battery end. 
i use the older style and i found that if you take a flathead screwdriver and gently turn (do not push in) the slotted end of your battery and line it up with the pin holes in either side, this will slightly increase air volume. if that doesnt seem to help then go ahead and proceed to take an extremely small drill bit included with pin vise kits and open up one hole. take a drag and if its to your satisfaction stop here. if not open up the other one! 
ATTN!! PLEASE USE A NEW CART ON YOUR BATTERY TO TRY THIS MODIFICATION. if you use an old gummed up and clogged carto to try this, the next time you put on a new one you'll have too much airflow and you'll struggle to even activate the battery if useing an auto.
if your still having problems, the only other thing that i could think of that would help would be to fool around with your faulty cartomizer. switch it out and try another....still not working? try straightening a paper clip and running it down the center of the cartomizer and work it around until you can look straight through it when held up to light. 
this method of modifying your e-cig batteries could very well be applied to various other models. i have not tried this on any other models myself, so my disclaimer to you is to leave this modification to only the KR808 because it has been tested by myself and does work. hope this helped a few of you out there who have been cursing the dealer who sold you a defective e-cig. its not defective, it just needed a lil' TLC.
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09-07-2010, 10:19 AM
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#2 | | Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: West Texas/New Mexico
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| Chris , look at you. Been here 6 weeks and doing tutorials, good stuff . Thanks, bud nice to have you around here. bikes | |
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09-07-2010, 02:35 PM
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#3 | | Dismembered Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: USA
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| That's one of the reason I shunned cartos for a while. Trying different types seemed to present one problem or another. With a home-built box using the fairly standard sealed 510 connector (custom mods that make their own connector can still provide mating problems and adjustments even with various 510 atties) I've found the various 510 cartos to be far less twitchy. Draw seems to determined more by brand rather than how they mate in the connector.
I guess I should add that if you have an adapter that looks like this with center post mating problems, turning it with a screwdriver seems to adjust the position (depth).
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09-07-2010, 02:44 PM
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#4 | | Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Arkansas
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| Great tutorial Chris  | |
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09-07-2010, 04:03 PM
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#5 | | TO SERVE AND PROTECT :) Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Louisiana
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| Chris,
I really like your approach to "fixing".
Some people complain, others stress over things just not being just right.
The air flow variations from one carto to the next, or atty, or with adapters is something that probably never will be standardized. We mix and match and adapt too much for everything to be 'just right'. The little hand drill should be within anyones budget (after not buying a couple packs of cigarettes ) and easy to accomplish. A dollar pack of needle files would be something else to toss into the e-cig toolbox.
The enlarged vent holes can be helped a little more with a notch into the flat surface that the 808D-1 or 901 mates to (the faying surface). Air will sneak out under the carto through the enlarged hole.
A vent hole can also be drilled into an adapter that mates to the 510 below the threads (about where the blue arrow is) and the notches in the 510 adapter enlarged with a file.
Photos attached (but not as good as Chris's ).
And the "adjustable" adapter can compensate for worn parts a little. If you don't need extra, keep it screwed together, just not too tight as the little screw will break. BTDT.
Some adapters don't have two part inner conductors.
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09-07-2010, 06:00 PM
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#6 | | Home of Vaper Research Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Leftern Mass
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| Quote:
Originally Posted by ChRiS 
if your still having problems, the only other thing that i could think of that would help would be to fool around with your faulty cartomizer. switch it out and try another....still not working? try straightening a paper clip and running it down the center of the cartomizer and work it around until you can look straight through it when held up to light.
| I tried that and...end of cartomizer... 
But, it sure was DRAWING real good!
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09-07-2010, 06:08 PM
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#7 | | ☆ The So-Cal Vaper ☆ Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Southern california
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| thanks everyone. i thought i would contribute a lil somthing to the forum. i was thinking of doing one on how i clean my cartos and atty, but i'm sure youtube has already given us enough ways lol. (should I?)
one thing i forgot to mention was where to purchase a pin vise. yes you can order them online from various web sites, but before you do, save a lil time and visit your local hobby shop and look around. Sears has them as well. prices range anywhere from $5-$40, but honestly $15-$20 is reasonable for an american product and thats what i paid. there is really no need to blow to much money on a set unless you would like to add a nice set to your ever expanding roll away.
great point Rocky! another great addition to your tools would be a set of jewelers files. also at the hobby shop, or get a good set of Swiss made files from Sears like i did. prices range anywhere from $15 bucks for an Xacto set, up to $150 bucks for a Grobet set made in Switzerland. but honestly your best buy would be the 6 piece set from Grobet sold at Sears for around $30 bucks, (the ones i use).
when i was younger i was really into modeling, rc/nitro cars, and Lionel. i used to use the pin vise to make small holes in models and bend very thin painted pieces of copper wire to simulate fuel lines/hydraulics, and plug wires on model cars. i never thought i would ever use these tools for anything else, so i got lucky when i found my lil' old Kenedy box.  
happy modding and thanks to everyone for your support on my first tutorial!
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09-07-2010, 06:09 PM
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#8 | | Dismembered Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: USA
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Originally Posted by Hachiroku I tried that and...end of cartomizer...
But, it sure was DRAWING real good! | You could try just moving the tube to center and stuff a little fill in the direction of the lean to keep it there. | |
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09-07-2010, 06:45 PM
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#9 | | ☆ The So-Cal Vaper ☆ Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Southern california
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| ad's again! | |
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09-27-2010, 01:58 AM
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#10 | | Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: USA
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| TY Chris!! | |
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09-27-2010, 06:38 AM
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#11 | | ☆ The So-Cal Vaper ☆ Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Southern california
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| hey no problem. just remember to not turn the battery end to far around when useing a flathead screwdriver. you run the risk of turning it too far and having a wire break off of the terminals. | |
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04-05-2011, 08:54 PM
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#12 | | Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: USA
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| I have four different kr808d-1 batteries and only one works. They all worked for a short period of time and then quit. I have tried lifting the post on the batteries and that doesn't help. The LED lights up when I inhale but no vapor is produced. Air holes seem to be clear. Any thoughts on what I can do to fix or what I am doing wrong? Love to vap but getting frustrated. | |
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04-05-2011, 08:56 PM
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#13 | | Darth Vaper Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Leftern Mass
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Originally Posted by Newtovap I have four different kr808d-1 batteries and only one works. They all worked for a short period of time and then quit. I have tried lifting the post on the batteries and that doesn't help. The LED lights up when I inhale but no vapor is produced. Air holes seem to be clear. Any thoughts on what I can do to fix or what I am doing wrong? Love to vap but getting frustrated. | Check the end of the cartos and see if the center connector is pushed in too far. If you're very careful, you can pull the center connector out with something like a paper clip or a small screwdriver...GENTLY!
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04-05-2011, 08:58 PM
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#14 | | Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: USA
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| Sorry should have said this. Carto works with the working battery so don't think it is that and no carto seems to work with other three. | |
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04-05-2011, 09:50 PM
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#15 | | Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: West Texas/New Mexico
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| New, also make sure that you wipe the battery and carto threads, juice can leave residue which is non-conductive or introduce enough resistance to prevent the atomiser from working.
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