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#27 | | Home of Vaper Research Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Leftern Mass
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| 15 schnitzengrubens is my limit
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#28 | | Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Arkansas
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01-21-2010, 11:49 AM
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#29 | | Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: WA state USA
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| Is there any place in the states that I could get the 401 to cartomizer adapter.
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01-21-2010, 06:19 PM
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#30 | | Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Arkansas
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| ask the rocket man Maj ... he knows all |
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01-21-2010, 07:19 PM
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Originally Posted by LeCig ask the rocket man Maj ... he knows all  | Ask the Great Zoltan anything, Zoltan knows all.
Gaze into Zoltan's crystal ball and see the closest
401 battery to 808D-1 adapter across the Great Sea.
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01-21-2010, 08:06 PM
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#32 | | Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Arkansas
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01-24-2010, 09:18 PM
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#33 | | TO SERVE AND PROTECT :) Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Louisiana
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| Come on sellers, the 808D-1 cartomizer has the potential to be a big hit.
There is a small inexpensive adapter available to allow the D-1 to be used on the most popular e-cig out there, the 510.
The second most popular e-cig is the 901 but is not directly compatible with the D-1, close, but not quite.
I know people that have to order this from there, and that from here, and the post office is the clear winner with multiple shipping fees.
Get to the folks that have invested in the 510, or the 901 and might not jump at a new "kit".
Lets get out there with a "Package", one adapter (510 or 901 to 808D-1), and 1 or two 5 packs of D-1s at a reasonable price.
and a quote "get er done" fits here.
I know it would probably be better from a business standpoint to just sell a complete carto kit, and some of my ideas are the reason I'm not in business doing this myself. But some have gone elsewhere because of this.
Just a friendly nudge.
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01-24-2010, 11:18 PM
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#34 | | Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Arkansas
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| I should have 1st sample by mid feb rocket |
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01-25-2010, 12:01 AM
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#35 | | TO SERVE AND PROTECT :) Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Louisiana
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| Sorry to sound like I'm dogging out our great sellers in my previous post because you guys have been great sources of info, deals, and comfort to those ready to start e-cigs or those having a little trouble once they start. I will openly support those that don't try to rip-off the newbie with outrageous claims or prices.
Manufacturers and the Big Guys have the upper hand on each new "Best Model" until someone figures out the inner workings and shows just how "not" different they really are. I'll admit my views on various models change from time to time but the current rage seems to be the cartomizer and adaptability between different models. Cashing in on that seems like a logical path.
Keep up the great work supporting us.
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01-25-2010, 12:07 AM
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#36 | | Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Arkansas
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| It was suggested we raise our prices by an outlet now selling and we refused. $49.99 stand firm for the time being ... I think that is fair considering support, etc |
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01-25-2010, 01:51 PM
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#37 | | TO SERVE AND PROTECT :) Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Louisiana
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| 808D-1 issue today.
Took a empty carto out of a 5 pack (not one from LeCig) and popped the cap, filled with my regular 50/50 juice and vaped just a few hits, Burns the Throat. Swapped to a 901, same juice, same MOD, OK. Tried a soft cart, same , same, it's OK. Back to the 808D-1 and hot, burns my throat. First time. Lots of vapor, tastes like juice, not plastic, vapor just hot as heck.
Don't think it's primer, won't go away. Took another out of the 5 pack, filled and it's OK. Swapping carts and cartos, only this one.
Will have to wait till tonight to ohm this out and see if it's a resistance problem. If not I'm going to cut it open to see if filler or batting is melting.
First D-1 to do this to me. Has to be some variable between cartomizers?
It's not just the sore throat issue, I want to know what's going on here.
This one carto is different some how.
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01-25-2010, 02:04 PM
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#38 | | I Want YOU!... To Vape! Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Sunny Florida! U.S.A.
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| Hey Rocket why don't you just...
"Ask the Great Zoltan anything, Zoltan knows all." (Sorry... had too.)
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01-25-2010, 02:08 PM
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#39 | | TO SERVE AND PROTECT :) Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Louisiana
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Originally Posted by Stehle (Sorry... had too.)  | You bad !
Zoltan don't work unless you give him a dime.
Passed up a chance long while back to get a rusty Zoltan that needed refurb.
and don't worry, Zoltan will figure this one out. If it don't taste right, it ain't right.
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01-25-2010, 02:18 PM
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#40 | | I Want YOU!... To Vape! Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Sunny Florida! U.S.A.
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Originally Posted by Rocketman ...Zoltan will figure this one out. If it don't taste right, it ain't right.
Rocket | Agreed!
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01-25-2010, 04:49 PM
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#41 | | Home of Vaper Research Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Leftern Mass
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Originally Posted by Rocketman 808D-1 issue today.
Took a empty carto out of a 5 pack (not one from LeCig) and popped the cap, filled with my regular 50/50 juice and vaped just a few hits, Burns the Throat. Swapped to a 901, same juice, same MOD, OK. Tried a soft cart, same , same, it's OK. Back to the 808D-1 and hot, burns my throat. First time. Lots of vapor, tastes like juice, not plastic, vapor just hot as heck.
Don't think it's primer, won't go away. Took another out of the 5 pack, filled and it's OK. Swapping carts and cartos, only this one.
Will have to wait till tonight to ohm this out and see if it's a resistance problem. If not I'm going to cut it open to see if filler or batting is melting.
First D-1 to do this to me. Has to be some variable between cartomizers?
It's not just the sore throat issue, I want to know what's going on here.
This one carto is different some how.
Rocket | I've noticed the same thing about them. Awful hot/burning.
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01-25-2010, 06:06 PM
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#42 | | I Want YOU!... To Vape! Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Sunny Florida! U.S.A.
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Originally Posted by Hachiroku I've noticed the same thing about them. Awful hot/burning. | Me too.... I thought it was just me, the adapter or the 510 mega battery I've been using.
Hot burning throat and little or no vapor. (Nice nic buzz though.)
Tell me this is not the norm... I'll try another.
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01-25-2010, 07:01 PM
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#43 | | TO SERVE AND PROTECT :) Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Louisiana
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| Took a nap after work, will get to this D-1 issue soon.
The line "what's the matter son?", "blowed up sir" comes to mind.
I have vaped a couple of 5 packs of empty D-1s I got from China, a couple of empty samples and a couple of filled ones from LeCig and all were fine. That's what surprised me with this one hottie. Never had one give me a hot throat like this. The second one out of the pack is fine, using it now (filled at work hours ago). I used the same MOD, and the same juice to compare (12mg/ml 50/50) so it's this one carto.
They seem to normally be second only to the 901 for smooth, tasty vapor. The 510 gives a hit, but never uncomfortable.
I'll get the meter, and dremel out later, or tomorrow. Just a word of caution and this applies to any model; if it don't taste right, it ain't right, don't vape it.
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#44 | | TO SERVE AND PROTECT :) Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Louisiana
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| Resistance readings for the highest, lowest, and the HOT 808D-1.
(High and Low from 12 samples).
4 wire Kelvin resistance measurements to eliminate most lead errors.
KR Calibration Short made from carto connector.
Resistance is not the problem, at least not higher or lower than any than vape OK. The Hot one is 2.77 ohms.
It surgery time (tomorrow).
Tomorrow is not an OCD term.
Here is the WHAT happened, but not the WHY it happened just yet. Clear view through center.
Last photo, the filler removed and the inner batting burnt through. Not a lot of crud build up, didn't vape it long. The vapor was really really hot.
My advice: If you get similar results, burning sensation, swap out cart, carto, atty, whatever.
It is probably not the juice doing it. The 808D-1 still seems like a great device, this is the only one that has done this, so far.
My best guess for this failure: Didn't give the batting (one inner wrap) and fiberglass heater core enough time to soak up the juice when I filled it. It wasn't saturated with the grape e-liquid like the filler.
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| It may have to do with the batting. I know that the batting will degrade as it is repeatedly heated and cooled, so you may just need to replace it. Whenever my ecig starts to make my throat raspy or I get little to nothing coming thru, I clean out the atty and change the batting. That's worked every time so far.
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#46 | | TO SERVE AND PROTECT :) Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Louisiana
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Originally Posted by Dhileas It may have to do with the batting. I know that the batting will degrade as it is repeatedly heated and cooled, so you may just need to replace it. Whenever my ecig starts to make my throat raspy or I get little to nothing coming thru, I clean out the atty and change the batting. That's worked every time so far. | This was a new cartomizer that I filled with juice and almost immediately irritated my throat with each vape. The batting in the D-1 is one wrap around the heater, then the remaining space is filled with a lighter fluffier material
post 78 in this thread shows one taken apart: Easily Refill a Cartomizer
and I agree, if it ain't right, do something, don't keep vaping.
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Originally Posted by Stehle Me too.... I thought it was just me, the adapter or the 510 mega battery I've been using.
Hot burning throat and little or no vapor. (Nice nic buzz though.)
Tell me this is not the norm... I'll try another. | Yeah. The flavor is good, nic is good, no 'smoke'.
I suppose the reason I'm using this is to get the nic I'm missing from cigs, but the vapor adds to the psychological effect.
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01-25-2010, 11:28 PM
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#48 | | Home of Vaper Research Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Leftern Mass
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Originally Posted by LeCig its twu its twu! | Funny, but somebody saif this Friday, and I made the crack about the schnitzengrubers, and he didn't get it. I had to explain the It's twu! IT's twu! to him!
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01-26-2010, 11:13 AM
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#49 | | TO SERVE AND PROTECT :) Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Louisiana
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| Ahhhh,
the Rocket is again laid back and vaping comfortably with a pair of MODS, adapted to 808D-1 cartomizers. The bad experience of the "HOT" D-1 behind him, at least for now.
I was probably careless in how I filled the 'bad' one. I found nothing that would indicate it was a construction or design fault. The two I am using today (started one of them yesterday) are nice and smooth.
Hot, nasty tasting, is not acceptable performance. Don't ignore your senses.
ummmmm pufffff, ummmmm pufffff
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#50 | | I Want YOU!... To Vape! Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Sunny Florida! U.S.A.
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| Well the second D1 was a charm... LeCig to the rescue!
It was phenomenal experience! I hope to experiment more with KR-808's, adapters and Cartomizers!
Thanks again Mike for saving the day!
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