Hachiroku

Finally killed a Cartomizer. It was the first 510 cartomizer I got from LiteCig, and has been in use for approx a month or 5 weeks now. It started gumming up about a week ago, but would still put out vapor when pressed, especially on the 4.2V Atty Smasher. Last night it had kind of a weird taste (old juice) and was very, very weak on vapor production.

I got home today and sat down at the console, stuck it on to the Atty Smasher and...stone cold. Not a thing. Done, finished, kaput. However, since it cost about $1.75, and not $8-10 like a regular Joye 510, and I got more than a month out of it, I am certainly not disappointed!

Please add you experiences with atomizers, good and bad!

40bikes

Hachi, I've only lost 2 regular attys in almost 8 months of vaping. First one just had sudden catastrophic failure without any apparrent reason. Second was used exclusively on my straight 5v 901 pass through abd I think it went "high order" and took out my usb power supply.
I have lost half a dozen 901 cartos but 3 were "Wendys Frosty thru a coffee stirrer" air flow issues. Two were killed during open heart surgery trying to polyfill-less drippers (I've got 2 that are +1month from stripping the poly and are used regularly) Only 1 outright failure on cartos so far. bikes

LeCig

The rebuilt juice box - E-Cigarette Forum

Hachi, second video in the link (page 1) carlos says he got 5 months on one atty, of course he vapes at 3.7v, but I'm trying to hunt down an example of how he made his atty.

Hachiroku

Ya know, people like you just pi$$ me right off!

Hachiroku

I've seen this before. Rocket also commented on this: it looks like he's taking a ceramic core and wrapping the nichrome wire around it. It's kind of an 'open' atty, if you look at the design of his juice box the juice drips down onto the atomizer and then has a return back to the bottle.

I was thinking about this today while juicing my cartomizer. Two pieces of nichrome, one facing one way, the other in an opposite direction...

The problem is, and I have thought about this often, is the connections. I have had concerns about this. You certainly DO NOT want to use Lead solder! Tin solder, silver solder (very high temp) or even some kind of spot welding would be good. Preferrably the spot welding). Since our friends in China like using lead in everything...

BTW, there is another video on YouTube where he actually shows making an atomizer, but if he's smart he removed it a while ago...

Yup! "This video has been removed by the user."!

LeCig

thanks, yes I remember that was the issue from before ... he pulled the atty viddy.

Oh well.

Hachiroku

Piker. But I remember it! Like I said, it was a ceramic core with the wire wound around it.
He didn't really go too much into detail as to how to actually MAKE it, but he did give some hints as to it's construction.

Rocketman

Haven't given much thought about atty making.
The ni-chrome wire isn't going to take solder very well.
If connection to the ends of the ni-chrome heater are looped and crimped to an alloy that does solder easily and a lead free solder blob is applied to the crimp the mass of this connection will be greater than the free length of ni-chrome and will not get near as hot as the heating portion.

With the cartomizers I've taken apart it looks like the heater wire is soldered to a little loop that is soldered to the center carto tube. The other end of the heater is soldered to the heavier gauge return wire and then soldered to outer contact. The coiled section of the heater will get hotter than the rest of the circuit. Even clone parts are supposed to be lead free. We can hope

I probably won't try atty making. Empties store well, are cheap, and I have a pile.
If the supply lines close down, I'll start being a little more careful with the ones I have and even start cleaning the clogged ones. But if I run out of things to do after I retire, maybe.

JohnnyJames

Don't be too impressed. They may still work but how good? My Joye atties are good for about 5 weeks of good performance. I might rinse and dry burn once, but over 5 weeks and the performance suffers. For me my atty budget is about $2/week. That gets me constant, good vapor. I also prefer the lighter draw of new atties and the fresher taste.

40bikes

Killed a carto ? That's quite a testimony to their toughness for them to last you a month.
Anyone besides me given up on cartridges completely? I'm completely converted to cartomisers and dripping

Stehle

LeCig D1 Cartos = 3 Weeks (Average, but lately the norm would be longer.)

Moderate Evening Vaping 4-5 Hours - USA Mix 24mg (Madvapes)

Intermittent Titan (TW) & Disposable (Madvapes) 510 Use (18-24 mg & Different Flavors for Variety)

Hope it helps!

40bikes

While we're at it, anyone know a good way to rehab bad flavored cartos? I've got some from vapornine that just taste terrible. I've tried rejuicing and hot water rinsing and alcohol soaks but nothing seems to take the nasty factory original flavor away.
To make this seem more on point these cartos should last for years 'cause I'm never going to use them like they are.

bigslick83

well for cartos...

my trip has been all around the world.

I started with a kr808d-1 with 5 cartos and loved the pissing and hissing and popping it did when it poured out vapor, and always replaced them before burn out because it seemed like they had a harsh throat wrenching bite with little vapor. I'm sure I screwed the lot of them up. These were from health cabin.

returning to my joye 510 (more on that some other time)
I came across a soft tipped 510 carto. these were the cig filter colour from lecig and they were heaven. they lasted for over 2 weeks, had that fire crackle hit of hot vapor, and were easy to refill.

my next attempt were the same soft tip type cartos and the new hard tip 510 carto style from healthcabin. these soft tips bought in bulk, were really hit or miss and hardly ever fired like the other ones from lecig. The hard tip were very nice though and worked they they oughta.

The next order contained many more hard tip cartos from healthcabin only to find great performance with glued white caps! WTF?!?! I broke a couple off anyway to fill until my girlfriend swallowed one and wasn't too happy about it. These still fill okay through the battery hole or with the rubber condom trick. These were the silver threaded cartos, with flutes cross cut through the positive terminal like a kr808d-1 carto.

My last order I thought I struck gold to find a five pack of cartos for 6.75 with white tips that were not glued into place. I forget the website, and purchased the final 15 packs, so I am sorry. I found gold alright. Gold threads for the cartomizers that look identical to the joye 510 atty threads. These have less airflow, dont pop and hiss, and refill slowly. (like 4 drops at a time the first few days, then 6 a few more, then 8 max per refill or else its flood city destination: your mouth) I have drank at least 5 ml of ejuice from these babies going onto 5 weeks and 4 total cartos. (fudged one up with a syringe, and lost one. both after a week)

the point is:
how many types and varieties of these damn cartos are out there floating around? which are the best kind for you, and where did you get them?

40bikes

Slick, There are quite a few types out there. Of the 510 cartos they seem to be mostly
Boge and have silver colored connectors or SLB (sailabo) with the gold fittings. The SLBs seem to be getting the rep as most usable of these two, at least over at ECF. I think litecigusa has both brands. bikes

PUFFDADDY

Im going on about a month with my Crown7 imperial M601C cartomizer...Thing is kicking like a mule lol...Does anyone else have an M601C or is everyone just doing the KR's????

Hachiroku

Ya know, you people pi$$ me right off!

I get about 2 weeks before they gum up and stop vaping. That's the "cheap" cartomizers. The real Joyes take about 4 days...

JohnnyJames

What liquids are you using?

Hachiroku

Vermont Vapor. I use tobacco, mint, cafe au lait, and mocha, or a mixture of them.
Adam at VtV says he uses attys for months w/ no problem, and I'd be willing to bet he uses his own juice...

Occasionally I mix in some LiteCig or Myst Stix Camel flavor PG (VtV is VG) for a lighter flavor and to produce a bit more throat hit. I usually mix 2/3 VtV and 1/3 of the PG stuff.

Hachiroku

Next up: Some 901's from a new supplier. So far so good. Day 2 on the Atty Smasher and still vaping up a storm.

I have said before, and will say again. I have a tough time with discreet atomizers, and usually the 901 isn't usually better in the flavor department than the Cartomizers, but the taste of these blows the cartomizers into the weeds.

Hachiroku

Hey! Just noticed! Only halfway to Rocket!!!












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Rocketman

Turn your back for a minute and they try sneaking up on you.

Hachiroku

Yup!

901 #1 gave up last night, about 24 hours of vaping. I don't know why I'm burning up the discreet attys and the cartos just keep chugging away. Now on to 510 #1...