Pit Vaper

LOL...I was getting ready to post that, just saw it on twitter

mrwizard

I'm sure some will disagree, but I see nothing wrong with it.
The microwave mainly excites water molecules, warming up the mix, so I don't think there is any difference than soaking the bottle in a hot water bath to loosen the VG.
Of course, the microwave does it way faster so you can superheat the mixture pretty quickly if you're not careful, melting the container, scorching the contents, and burning the crap out of yourself... so exercise caution when using the microwave. Very short bursts, no longer than 5 seconds, and test temp and mix to distribute the heat between bursts.
Microwave only penetrate a short distance so the outside edge will heat quickly while the center remains cool until the heat transfers.

As for separation, to the best of my knowledge, nicotine will not separate from the base once mixed.

mrwizard

I trust someone will report back any mention of the controversy. mmmm-kay.

Pit Vaper

Sure thing wiz, hey it's good to see your site back open, even if your not taking new registrations or orders.

Rocketman

It's a shame I'm not employed anymore or I could

"Load test" your server for you.

For Free

mrwizard

Thanks, Pit.
Glad to see someone still reads the notices.
Just testing out some of the bug fixes.
Will probably take it back down tomorrow to avoid anymore emails.

Oh, I just bet you could!
I pity the server.
(Where's my Mr T smilie?) LOL

Pit Vaper

will this work...LOL

wetwire

Dude.. best costume eva.. too funny.. that is a costume right?

@ Wiz - I use the baby bottle method. But really. On my microwave with a 15ml bottle of 80 percent VG for 6 secs it comes out just a little warm. Shake for a few secs and hold it up to the light. No swirlys = all done.

creote46

Wiz, ignore my pm wondering if site was up and running yet. Just got excited. sorry...

CountryCarolyn

Kurt and brad are both on!!

http://vapetv.com/pages/vapetvlive

Pit Vaper

Well, there was a record amount of viewers watching this show. The short and sweet of it was basically, Brad of Boxelder would not admit to a customer sale of High Nic content (272mg labeled 100mg) but did admit that there may have been some labeling issues associated with 100mg nic going out at 48mg or less. He also conceded that some internal auditing may be required and possibly some independent testing of pre-diluted nic coming into the second phase dilution and packaging facility.

All in all the the whole debate between Kurt and Brad, with Cozzi Con as moderator was quite civil.

I do believe Brad was sincere when he said there is no amount of money that is worth the health or well being of even one customer, who could have been harmed by his product. Some may disagree, but this is just my personal opinion.

Of course the debate within the community is still quite intense on this subject, and how it plays out is anyones guess right now. Some want to give him the benefit of the doubt while others want put him out of business and hang him out to dry.

Most believe this is wake up call for vendors in general, that without government oversight and accountability they need to be very sure of the products they sell to the public. It's something like this that could bring the FDA or other agencies crashing down on all of us in a heartbeat, I know that may sound extreme but these days, I wouldn't put anything out of the realm of possibility.

This is just my short synopsis of the program that aired on VapeTV, it was recorded if you care to go there and listen for yourself, it went on for more than an hour and then a panel discussion continued for another hour plus.

creote46

I view this as a wake up call for consumers, not vendors. With all government agencies suffering cutbacks on employees, and enforcement rules changing or being rescinded in the name of "Get government off our backs", I don't see regulation as any solution. The consumer had better figure out a way to test his own nic juice.

wetwire

Agree.. End user testing looks like a good idea to me.

Government regulation IMO will only increase prices, unnecessarily. If I could believe this increase would translate to a better / safer product for the consumer that would be one thing. BUT..There will still be those who skirt the law. Good standards and practices will already be followed by those whom would follow them. The scoundrels will always be scoundrels. And it will be one more thing that is left half done. I like the ideal but in practice, this type of thing always falls short. Seen it with my own eyes too many times.

creote46

With the stock market disaster and the demand for regulation enforcement, we still have documented abuse, if not out-rite fraud by investment banks, who would rather litigate, pay fines and negotiate settlements instead of doing what is right.

If the pv market were better developed instead of a cottage industry, we probably have less to be concerned about. Large companies would be shipping under-strength to screw us in the other direction.

creote46

Because once started, it is difficult for me to stop:
I am on a cholesterol medication called simvastatin. Rite-Aid has changed the actual pill 3 times in the last 2 years. It is a generic medication so they substitute cheapest negotiated price. If you have doubts about the pill because of changed shape, color and markings, you can look it up on line. However, my latest generic is not listed with any description so I'm back to trusting that the individual pharmacist working for a chain store is giving me the right medication. Trust Me, your check is in the mail, etc.

Rose

The meds that I give to mental patients every day change size and shape all of the time, depending on the company that sells them having the cheapest price. Try explaining to a paranoid schizophrenic that you are not giving them someone elses meds!

creote46

I don't envy you. Or them for that matter. The rule for medications is trust, but verify. If you can't verify, your shooting craps.

Rose

Yep! I agree. They say,"Where is my big white pills?" I say,"Sorry, they are pink now." They say,"I ain't taking that sheet!. You are lying!" No wonder they are nuts!

wetwire

Boy o boy could you go on for hours about meds in the US. Regulation? uh huh..