VixenVapor

Everything I am vaping has little to no flaor or just tastes NASTY to me.
I have 2 510's with cartomizers that I fill myself.I have an E-go with Cartomizers too. I try to drip but that tastes like licking a rusty old wrench lol, i have 1 cart per flavor,so I am not mixing the flavors.I actually have a cart for the flavor I will call hodge podge :P
Anyway, when I first started vaping a few weeks ago everything tasted AWESOME, now the wrench and paper taste.

Please help...i want my tastebuds to work again...Thanks

tek

have you cleaned out the carts?
there are many ways to do this. i like to boil...

are you over filling, cause when i do vapor goes way way down and the air that gets threw is gastly.

one other thing i knoticed is when i am using certian flavors that the carto gummes up from the sugars being carmlized in to a thick substance.. does not taste so good.

Dhileas

Be sure to brush your tongue, and do what he said (but more eloquently).

What he mentioned about certain flavors thickening also applies to nearly all VG-based liquids. I don't know what it does it exactly, but VG-based liquids seem to clog up atomizers more so than PG-based liquids. The flavors can most certainly add to the viscosity of the liquid, but if you are starting with an already thicker substance, the frequency of the need to clean your atomizers, cartridges, and cartomizers obviously increases.

I, too, boil my atomizers. I only drip right now, so I don't have additional parts to boil, but I generally recommend boiling it all (except for the obvious [id est batteries or modified parts]). Just bring a small saucepan to a boil, toss your parts in, and retrieve them in five minutes. Let them cool down in the open air, then wash them off (as the parts seem to get a whitish film on them). Blow them out with a can of compressed air, or use your own pipes. Once you feel they're dry, I say have at them!

VixenVapor

yeah, I rinse with hot water but I havent boiled, My ego is only 2 weeks old as far as the thick caramel substance, i had brown crud comming out of the atomizer when I blew it,and I was dripping bright red raspberry all VG .maybe that has something to do with it!

tek

yep.

i like to use tropical punch.
it is really clear in the begging but
turns to a carmel color..
so i would have to say its time to clean..
oh yea i get my stuff cloged in a day... when i use that flavor... outher mixes take longer...

Dhileas

My daily vapes are Halo products (Freedom Juice and TruePure) and I boil my atomizers on a weekly basis. That's my big to-do on Saturday mornings.

Flashwitt

If you've washed out, and tried again, and still get a musty damp flavor, (What *I* call mop-water, but apparently, that's something else) it could be your atties/carts still have a little water moisture inside. Try taking a blow-drier to them after you've blown out all the water and let them stand and drain. I stand mine in front of a space heater. Water vapor tastes like... dishwater steam. *lol*

tek

i tryed to dry some really quick once.
i took like fifteen and taped them to a fan in my hall way ceiling.. lets just say i had to clean the walls... but funny as hell...
what centrificall force is not good enough for ya?

Dhileas

Sometimes manufacturers ship atomizers with a sort of solution inside of the atomizer. I don't know if it's lubricant from when they machined the parts, or an oil of sorts to protect the atomizer from rusting or building up bacteria en route, but I recommend boiling your brand new atomizers at least once before you use them. I will go so far as to boil them twice. I let them cool down while the water boils up before re-submerging them in a the same saucepan with fresh water. Always wash them off though after boiling! I don't know what that film is, but washing with cool fresh water makes it go away.

Steampunk

My experience is that cartomizers tend to dull the flavors of anything loaded into them. All tastes like corn syrup to me. Not as bad as a rusty wrench, but hardly any flavor at all.

As far as the rusty wrench, they all taste like that at first, and then whatever flavor from the juice comes out in a day or so.

VixenVapor

Thanks so much, I am watching for the bubbles as we speak , sorta like watching paint dry O_o
I will let you know how it turns out....Thanks to ALL for your responses, and the dishwater vape...hit the nail on the head.I'm gonna boil these babies like easter eggs and put them up for overnight drying then I guess I will try them late afternoon tomorrow.

Oh BTW , how many drops to prime andE-go atty? I'm guessing 5...then puff a few times without inhaling...5 more drops and off we go!!

I will deff. get 80pg/20 vg blend from here out!

Can I still use the pan for cooking or is that now my nic_o_clean pan?

Dhileas

Still use the pan? Probably not. That film doesn't appear to leave the pan. That's why I use my smallest saucepan, because I never use it.

I only recommend boiling for 5 minutes each time too. It wouldn't hurt to swish them around in there with a holed-spoon though! Get some water pressure basically pushing & pulling through them.

Rose

Tek I luv ya! That is hilarious!!!!!

Dhileas

I would do the same if I needed to separate blood at home.

berger

personally for regular cartos I like the really hot water and the baster with the pencil sleeve method better

40bikes

Vixen, welcome to the mysterious world of vaping.
I never boil my carts and cartos. Good hot water rinse should be enough .
If you are blowing out your cart you will alway get the dark nasty looking juice, seems like that would help. If you are refilling a carto(not just toppin off a couple of drops),blow the old crap out before you put clean, fresh juice in. Even if it seems wasteful, it is kinda false economy to vape foul tasting juice. That stuff is going to accumulate to some extent in every atty, cart and cart no matter what juice you use,it's coffee grounds, backwash, garbage; get rid of it
Every week blow the crap out, wash well, blow out the water and rejuice. Every one gets excited about drying their stuff but how much water is in a cart that you just blew the water out of ? Refill with the good stuff and taste improves.
Oh, and There's a lot to learn, hang in there This vaping isn't smoking It's better in so many ways and worth the effort.

VixenVapor

Bikes: Thanks man...I was wondering about rusting them.I live in the south and EVERYTHING molds here(well.....almost everything )))
Anyhow thanks for all the responses..This deff. is a learning experience!

berger

You lied...you said you aint telling where you live

Steampunk

40bikes

Vixen, be careful what you say around Steampunk,he kind of has a one track mind.
he thought you said "like licking a rusty WENCH" and he almost had a heart attack.

Steampunk

No, I KNEW she said "like licking a rusty wrench", and I almost had a heart attack!

Dhileas

I've never had an issue with rust forming, but then again water isn't left inside them for very long. I never boiled mine until about three months ago, I think, and I have noticed little change in performance and flavor, but it allows me to do very little and still get the results I'm looking for.

Stepinwolf

I haven't had anything rust and I live in Florida, just don't leave them out in the rain for an extended period of time. Another factor could be, if you have not smoked an analog in a couple of weeks, your taste buds may becoming a bit more sensative to flavors than before. Probably less of a factor than cleaning, but still possible. I don't like many of the flavors I first thought I liked when I started.

Flashwitt

Couple things- first, as humid as Florida is, I wouldn't be surprised at all if overnight wasn't long enough to dry them out, without some air or heat source to lend a hand. I'm in Seattle, and have the same issue, but much colder. Mold and algae are the natural color of all things- including cars and houses- around here. I have never had the patience to wait overnight, and not enough atties to rotate them (until recently,) and often find I'm sucking air through the dish-rag.

I wouldn't worry about using the pot again- as long as you scrub it out thoroughly first. If the film won't come off when you scrub with a good cleanser, it's probably not gonna come off in food, either.... Unless... Dh, what kinda pan are you using? If it's aluminum, then I'd be more cautious. Aluminum has all sorts of toxicity issues, and oxidation issues, and it's possible something in the old juice is oxidizing the aluminum, which can definitely be toxic!.

I use Bikes' method, though I might try a boil this week. And I agree 100% with the other stuff he said about false value in nasty old juice- more than 100%, since the nasty old stuff has more shortcomings than bad taste. It's sugary, and has had indirect contact with your mouth. It's a germ paradise. (Chico had a lot to say about that, and potential infections of the throat & respiratory tract.) Also, that "black shit" bikes was refering to didn't turn black all on it's own. There's oxidized metals in that stuff- you can tell by looking at it- or with one little sniff of your paper towels. I have no idea what effect vaping metal oxides might have, but it's a safer bet to shun them when possible, in my book.

berger

Then you should avoid the next big thing with mesh wick mod. The stainless has to be oxidized to avoid conductivity of the coil.

Though it may make it taste lousy I doubt seriously there is any significant exposures of any concern. The temps we are vaping with are not hot enough to vaporize metal.
Steampunk on the other hand.......