trippinmyrlinn

ok, bought some juice its too thick it wont wick properly, and my tank wont feed it. what can i use to thin this out without ruining it?

Thanks

berger

you could add some pg or grain alcohol (like everclear) pg will also lessen the flavor and nic content though..a little grain might loosen it up too..water will ruin it for the most part..

trippinmyrlinn

thanks berger

if i losten it with pg where do i get fruit flavorings to spice it back up?

berger

Im not exactly sure on that one..depends on what it is and where it came from...the supplier might tell you or may not..perhaps if you bring it to their attention they may help you out with suggestions..
flavorings come from several suppliers like flavor arts, flavor west and others that people around here know more about then me..(bikes???) as I dont mix my own...I screw around with the hardware to much to have time to start down that path...yet...someday though Im sure I will...

40bikes

Tripp, if you have a Hobby Lobby near, they have Loranns candy flavorings in the cake decorating section.
Very strong, start with 5%, 20drops=1ml so that would be 10drops in 10ml. Season to taste.

quasimod

Be careful not to add too much of anything that doesn't produce vapor, like booze or water, or your juice will produce little or no vapor. It shouldn't take much to thin it out enough, so go slow, only add a couple drops at a time, especially if it's a smallish bottle. If you can find the same flavor, a complimentory flavor, or non-flavored in all-PG, you can add as much as you like.

I'm no mixology expert, but I've been forced to learn a little over the last 18 months because of situations just the one you are in. I've messed up a lot of juice.

tek

if i were you i would just very simply put it in the micro wave with top off, for 5 sec let it cool, then do it again, untill it is as thin as you want it. It works every time for me with thick juice, or flavors that dont mix well, just rember to let the juice cool between zaps in the microwave.

and bam thin runny juice enjoy

trippinmyrlinn

tried bringing it to their attention, they dont seem very concerned (generic appology statement and go punt answer, they got their money) at least im not out much money. its only a 20 ml bottle of juice but id hate to throw it away if i can fix it. to give an idea on the thickness tho, i cant even suck it into a syringe. and it wont wick in my ce2 or in a sandard polyfill cartomiser. im almost tempted to do a warning post on this company. the only way i could see using it is dripping and i doubt something that thick wouldnt gum up an atty. oh well live and learn. ill just stick to my normal juice supplier.

berger

I wouldn't chuck it..especially if you like the flavor..it can be mixed with other juices that are more PG down the road..I use up stuff like that all the time that Im not wild about initially..never know where it may come in handy later at, change of pace is nice sometimes...
how much % VG is it 100% or something?

trippinmyrlinn

lol dunno if i like the flavor or not i cant get it to wick close enough to a heating element to vape it but it smells really tasty. i could try to nuke it but if i heat it up and it thins wont it just re thicken when it cools down or even get thicker from the juice moisture reducing? dont know the % break down but i think its mostly VG none of my 70/20 blends are anywhere near this thick. i need some pg or just flavor drops to loosen it. on the plus side ill probably end up with twice as much juice by the time im done.

always see the positive end

Steampunk

I would get something like a nicotine flavorless PG and mix it down. That way you aren't losing nic, and PG is thinner. It sounds like you got a VG juice, very heavy on the VG...

mrwizard

Actually, you shouldn't completely rule out distilled water as a thinning agent.

While doing some research into making pure VG ejuice for a friend who has a PG allergy, I've found that an 85/15 to 80/20 ratio of VG to distilled water is the sweetspot for PG-like viscosity without any significant loss of vapor production.

Although I've never tried it, Flavourart makes a VG base fluid called Velvet Cloud that is also an 80/20 mix of VG and water.

If you want to give it a go, I would start by adding 5% distilled water to your thick ejuice.
Nuke it in the microwave for 3 seconds, and shake well.
Repeat for another 3 seconds if you have a low power microwave and the bottle isn't warm to the touch yet.
This should make it a little thinner without noticeably reducing the flavor or lowering the nic content by more than 1mg/ml.

Alternatively, you could use Grain Alcohol or Vodka in place of the water.
It will do the same job, but will add a little pseudo-PG throat hit when you inhale the alcohol vapors.

Rocketman

mrwizard (loved your TV show),
You are correct with the VG and Water. Slow to mix, but will mix completely.
I don't have an allergy to PG but do notice a little harshness with 100% PG e-juice.
I usually run 50/50 (I guess that would be more like 45/45/10).
Some folks may run into a problem with viscosity and blame wicking on VG, or even burnt taste. I use a home made device to compare viscosity of my mix (see photo in my profile album). Drawing the juice up into a 20 gauge needle gives is another way of getting a feel for juice viscosity.

Let juice stand after mixing, warming or shaking before testing.

mrwizard

I just read your post in the other thread on that.
Thanks for the knowledge treat.

For a little nostalgia goodness you can still find a few episodes on youtube.

JohnnyJames

Premixed/thinned has been sold a while now as Aqueous Glycerine.

Rocketman

Bet it even costs more

mrwizard

Ah well, when you thin your VG with only virgin pure 1,000,000 yr old Antarctic ice imported in 1 dram bottles by carrier pigeon, you should expect to pay a little more.

quasimod

Darn tootin'. I read somewhere about an optimal percentage of water to VG, some kind of balance, but I can't remember the numbers. Anyone know what I'm talking about?

JohnnyJames

Yes but TotallyWicked's uses deionized water.

Rocketman

We used to make deionized water to rinse rocketships before being irridited.
Stored it in 10,000 gallon tanks

quasimod

Mmmmmm... deions! They're tasty!

Steampunk

Bloomin' Deions?