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12-31-2011, 09:52 AM
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#76 | | Hypervaporation in effect Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Deep in the Heart of the greatest state in the Union
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Originally Posted by 40bikes  tasted like a mouthful of beech nut chewing tobacco with subtle variations. |  Quote:
Originally Posted by Steampunk Why ANY lawmaker would vote to approve this shows we really need empty the Congress and start over. | Not that this would ever happen unless we completely start over, which maybe not a bad idea.. Quote:
Originally Posted by Rocketman He better learn how to 'Water Board'.
Do they have an ap for that? | Part of the new basic training perhaps?
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12-31-2011, 09:55 AM
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#77 | | Hypervaporation in effect Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Deep in the Heart of the greatest state in the Union
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Originally Posted by Rocketman Well, you find an American contributing to a Qaeda terrorist organization, you just send them down here to the South. You Yankees  can't be trusted to do
"the right thang" with em. They don't need to send em to no Cuba. |
Everglades or Louisiana swamps both could make a great, and more localized, New Guantanamo. 
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12-31-2011, 10:05 AM
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#78 | | Mr. DragOn Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: yonder...upright
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| [quote=Rocketman;91969]Well, you find an American contributing to a Qaeda terrorist organization, you just send them down here to the South. You Yankees can't be trusted to do
theres plenty terrorists working up here too...its called DC
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12-31-2011, 10:27 AM
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#79 | | Hypervaporation in effect Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Deep in the Heart of the greatest state in the Union
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Originally Posted by Rocketman Well, you find an American contributing to a Qaeda terrorist organization, you just send them down here to the South. You Yankees can't be trusted to do
theres plenty terrorists working up here too...its called DC | HA! no doubt
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12-31-2011, 10:55 AM
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#80 | | present for the moment Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Everywhere, USA Full-time RV'er currently in colorful Ohio
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| Wait! STOP! Send terrorists to the south? Great idea except for one thing..... Whatcha gonna do with DH and me? Our wonderful government has lumped us into the domestic category even though we are quite the opposite, along with more than a million people like us.
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12-31-2011, 11:13 AM
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#81 | | Vapezilla Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: yonder.... going down right
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Originally Posted by Teri Wait! STOP! Send terrorists to the south? Great idea except for one thing..... Whatcha gonna do with DH and me? Our wonderful government has lumped us into the domestic category even though we are quite the opposite, along with more than a million people like us. | You can come here... I've got plenty of room for ya and could use some help getting rid of the trash | |
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12-31-2011, 02:45 PM
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#82 | | Mr. DragOn Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: yonder...upright
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Originally Posted by Teri Wait! STOP! Send terrorists to the south? Great idea except for one thing..... Whatcha gonna do with DH and me? Our wonderful government has lumped us into the domestic category even though we are quite the opposite, along with more than a million people like us. | Shot..Id volunteer for Cuba..I hear its nice this time of year and the way things are going its government is going to be less oppressive then ours...and then there's the cigars...Oh wait...I dont smoke anymore...shoot...count me out...
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12-31-2011, 02:52 PM
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#83 | | New Title of Lord Arse :) Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Louisiana
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| The U.S. base at Gitmo had one of the last big screen outdoor drive-in theaters.
Wonder if it's still there?
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12-31-2011, 05:20 PM
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#84 | | Twinkle Toes Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Is it safe?
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Originally Posted by Rocketman The U.S. base at Gitmo had one of the last big screen outdoor drive-in theaters.
Wonder if it's still there? | Yeah. Obama didn't close it like he promised...  | |
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12-31-2011, 05:24 PM
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#85 | | Alright, Who Farted!!?? Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Right Behind You
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Originally Posted by Steampunk Yeah. Obama didn't close it like he promised... | Oh sure, would you want one of those guys in YOUR neighborhood? | |
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12-31-2011, 06:12 PM
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#86 | | Senior Moment Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: Somewhere in a happy valley turbine missile battery-induced fog
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Originally Posted by Shekinahsgroom Oh sure, would you want one of those guys in YOUR neighborhood? | Not in my neighborhood... I don't live near a prison... but I would like to see how well they do in a max security prison with "Bubba" for a cellmate. | |
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12-31-2011, 06:16 PM
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#87 | | Senior Moment Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: Somewhere in a happy valley turbine missile battery-induced fog
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Originally Posted by Steampunk Yeah. Obama didn't close it like he promised... | Does Obama even have the authority to do it?
What real authority does a President have anyway other than symbolically putting his stamp of approval on whatever congress decides? | |
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12-31-2011, 06:20 PM
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#88 | | Alright, Who Farted!!?? Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Right Behind You
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Originally Posted by mrwizard Not in my neighborhood... I don't live near a prison... but I would like to see how well they do in a max security prison with "Bubba" for a cellmate. | If Gitmo were closed, they wouldn't BE in a prison....they'd be YOUR NEIGHBOR!
That was the original plan when "closing Gitmo" was introduced; to release them into the population....HERE!!!
Cuz technically speaking, they're innocent until proven guilty by a jury of their peers. So since there haven't been any trials, they'd be freed!
Yeah, think the public outcry won that battle.
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12-31-2011, 06:23 PM
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#89 | | Senior Moment Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: Somewhere in a happy valley turbine missile battery-induced fog
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Originally Posted by Shekinahsgroom That was the original plan when "closing Gitmo" was introduced; to release them into the population....HERE!!! | I never heard that part.
That would have been just crazy. | |
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12-31-2011, 06:36 PM
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#90 | | Alright, Who Farted!!?? Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Right Behind You
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| That's why they're all in Gitmo, Wiz....Cuz they can't hold them in the US due to our laws.
None of them have been formally charged yet. (Lack of Proof)
They're just holding them forever.....without proof, without trials, etc.
Closing Gitmo they'd HAVE TO release them according to our own laws.
Hence the whole outcry, debate, etc. | |
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12-31-2011, 07:59 PM
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#91 | | Vapezilla Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: yonder.... going down right
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Originally Posted by mrwizard Does Obama even have the authority to do it?
What real authority does a President have anyway other than symbolically putting his stamp of approval on whatever congress decides? | I don't know but recently found out he personally screwed me out of a particular job that now is on hold indefinitely... probably till the next election. So I have to wait for others to open up now. Just finding more ways everyday of how he is screwing me and I didn't know it. | |
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12-31-2011, 08:48 PM
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#92 | | New Title of Lord Arse :) Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Louisiana
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Originally Posted by Shekinahsgroom That's why they're all in Gitmo, Wiz....Cuz they can't hold them in the US due to our laws.
None of them have been formally charged yet. (Lack of Proof)
They're just holding them forever.....without proof, without trials, etc.
Closing Gitmo they'd HAVE TO release them according to our own laws.
Hence the whole outcry, debate, etc. | The laws (pre OBAMA) would require the "suspects" to be charged as civilians, or combatants (terrorists) affiliated with a foreign government if held in the U.S. I think Obama's original plan was to transfer detainees to civilian prisons. Some states volunteered the services of their prison system, but most objected. But there is a problem with that. The current laws would not alloy the same "investigative" measures that can be performed outside our boundaries. Legal or not, Gitmo is out of sight/out of mind.
Many consider us to be "at war" with terrorists. Our government has wanted to have the ability to extract information, by whatever means from these "detainees" since at least 9/11. Holding them out of the country was a ploy to circumvent laws of detainment and allow "special" interrogation methods.
Whether are not you agree with sending terror suspects to Gitmo, whether or not you agree with false identification of the detainees, secret movements between Gitmo and other foreign prisons, and special interrogation methods, prisoner counting math that just "doesn't add up", or putting terror suspects into the U.S. court system, trying them based on only "unclassified" evidence, and then releasing them into the U.S. population (or deporting the foreign nationals to their home country to rejoin their comrades) is a balance between humanity, national security, and money.
Don't forget that "detainment" of a U.S. citizen, without formal charges, without the "right" to due process, afforded us by the Constitution, applies also to naturalized foreign nationals in this country, sometimes as "sleepers", with the sole purpose of terrorizing the American people.
Present a better way of getting your hands on a terrorist, not violate his rights, humanely extract information about co-conspirators and planned attacks within our boundaries, not "wiki-leak" the info so they can change plans or go hide, and I bet someone would use it.
Close Gitmo? Not until there is a viable alternative.
Concerned about being detained as a terrorist? I'd be more concerned about state and local authorities sticking you with a felony, putting you in prison for the rest of your life, or worse in Texas, based on some "civilian" eye witness or evidence made up by the authorities just to "solve" a case.
The loss of your freedom is probably much more likely from some county sheriff's office than from the administration in D.C.
An innocent person getting locked away due to an over-eager city attorney, or shot by a swat team knocking down the wrong door, while rapists and murderers are released into his neighborhood couldn't happen. That would be against the Constitution. Welcome to DreamLand.
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#93 | | Troubadour Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Delaware
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| This thread has turned into "Coast To Coast AM" with Art Bell, or George Noorey nowadays....but, I LIKE it!!
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#94 | | Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Tampa, FL
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Originally Posted by blueaussie Not Impressed at all with their customer service...you would think they have great customer service especially with the premium you pay for their E-Juice.
He not received yet and Already dissatisfied!
Regards
Craig | Ill be honest I placed an order for what they said tastes like the BluCigs carts and it tasted like straight ass on a stick.
I called them and the chick that I spoke with was mad cool, she sent me a rma thing and I shipped it back for a full refund though I used some of it.
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#95 | | Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: San Jose, California
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| I have gotten nothing but great customer service and great products from JC. Even though I would kill to get my hands on their Blu classic tobacco recipe but so far at least for me they have had the best tasting juice anywhere.
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06-17-2012, 11:11 PM
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#96 | | Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Long Island, NY
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Originally Posted by mrwizard Does Obama even have the authority to do it?
What real authority does a President have anyway other than symbolically putting his stamp of approval on whatever congress decides? | Very little- I love when people blame Presidents when we have a government system that ensures that he cant make a move with OKs from Congress-
Ironically, the biggest power any President has is in Foreign Affairs-
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06-17-2012, 11:30 PM
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#97 | | Twinkle Toes Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Is it safe?
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Originally Posted by mrwizard Does Obama even have the authority to do it? | Hasn't slowed him down yet. Quote: |
What real authority does a President have anyway other than symbolically putting his stamp of approval on whatever congress decides?
| Very little if you get one that actually knows what the Constitution says. | |
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#98 | | Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Long Island, NY
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Originally Posted by Steampunk Hasn't slowed him down yet.
Very little if you get one that actually knows what the Constitution says. | We have a Republican Congress-everything that people complain about has actually been brought about by the GOP-
I love the theatre of politics...
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#99 | | In Science We Trust Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Tonganoxie, KS
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| The facts show that Jacatro is right, and as far as a President that knows the Constitution?
Were we better off under Dubya?
“I don’t give a goddamn,” Bush retorted. “I’m the President and the Commander-in-Chief. Do it my way.”
“Mr. President,” one aide in the meeting said. “There is a valid case that the provisions in this law undermine the Constitution.”
“Stop throwing the Constitution in my face,” Bush screamed back. “It’s just a goddamned piece of paper!”
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