sinner

wow, youve got me beat in tenure of smoking. im only 32 but started when i was 13. so smoking was pretty much ingrained in everything that i did in my life. eat some food? hey lets go have a smoke. drinking a beer/coffee? hey lets go have a smoke. sitting around doing nothing? hey lets go have a smoke.

since ive been vaping...ive put the analogs away. actually id been having problems with my batteries recently and my order hasnt come in yet. my bachelor party was over the weekend so i went ahead and grabbed some smokes before i went. ended up giving them away. cant stand the taste anymore.

hope it works out for ya

sinner

to be perfectly honest...i wouldnt think that its JC's juice thats burning the atomizers for people. its probably more that those people either drip straight to the atty or just dont take care of their devices properly. but i doubt that its the juice itself. just doesnt seem likely, especially considering how we all know how easily atomizers can burn out.

and i think that if you drip...as long as you are VERY careful to keep the atty moist, its probably about the same as using topped off carts. ive tried both and a topped cart gives me the same vapor and throat hit that dripping does, so i guess its really preference and convenience that makes each person vape the way they do. i willsay this though...topping off a cart doesnt have to happen as often as straight dripping.

firhill

2 1/2 months dripping....ZERO, that's zero,zippo,zilch,donut hole atomizer failures.

Lost 2 batteries, but that's OK, I just add a manual switch or use the fittings on manual mods.

AmUp

Sinner,
I understand what your saying about dripping. I was really having two different thoughts. One about the dripping and one about the juice. The people that complained (there were several) about JC were vaping. Something about the particle break down leaving residue that burns out the atomizer. Just wondering. I believe I remember some of the people talking to the company about it. Maybe it is fixed now. That's my hope, that's why I was asking. I've been vaping for 2 months now & have been trying out different liquid companies & checking out flavor, price, and delivery time.

Lazarus

That sounds interesting, have you got a schematic, or some other instructions on how to add a manual switch? I have heard of these conversions, but never seen one up close and personal.

I know there is a big market for "dead" e-cig batteries.

nebraskapuffer

Off the subject a little but I've got something I would like to share. I just got in the mail a 500ml jug of PG from Electronic Ash e-Cigarettes and a 50ml bottle of their 36 power menthol juice. I mixed just a little to begin with so wouldn't ruin everything I've got. I did a small bottle of 50/50 and........man, I'm very impressed! Now if I remember right, what I learned where I went to school long ago what I ended up with is 18 power juice and it seems just fine to me. The PG was $9.99 for 500ml and the juice was $29.99 for 50ml of 36mg. So when it's all said and done I'll have about 100ml of 18mg juice for $30........which I think is pretty good. I suppose it could even be cut a little bit more for more savings but I like it the way it is for now. It's taking me forever to type this because I keep puffing........it's good!!!!!

firhill

I should have been more explicit...sorry. I only convert the dead batteries to manual passthrus..not a portable manual battery.

Cisco shows how here for the passthru.

He also made a straight manual battery here but dunno if it is possible to charge it.

renderwerks

Does anyone have the inside track on whether Johnson Creek has any new coupon codes or will have a sale on the 4th of July?

I've read that they usually have sales on "American" holidays; Presidents Day, July 4th, etc... Does anyone know where on their website they announce the sale or the code? I've not been vaping long enough to see a sale by them.

Thanks-

Rick

drdave

So far, I placed 3 orders with JC. Got a bunch of liquids from other companies but for some reason their juice is awesome. My biggest problem with JC is the darn things are so yummy I vape myself to insomnia, LOL. So far I got Coffee (espresso), Artic Mint, Flue Cured, and regular in both 18MG PG, and 24MG PG.

tandera

i just bought 6 bottles of 15ml from them, mixed flavours, all reduced PG.
they are more expensive than china suppliers, but i have the hope of vaping a better/clean juice.

otherlady

Hi everyone, Johnson Creek had changed flavors, but they are still great, taste good, smooth and best of all made in the USA. Otherlady

otherlady

HI again, I smoke JC and I clean my atomizer daily, I use canned air to blow out excess juice, you do not want to drown out the burner. Twice a week and sometimes more if needed I soak them in rubbing alcohol. then let them dry real good or blow dry with canned air. I do drip only onces, when I change to a clean atomizer, only.. do not vap a dry crat or real dry atomizer it will burn up. I have been useing the same atomize and batteries for 7 weeks no sign of weakness yet. I smoked anolog for 42 years. 7 weeks vaper. no cheating. I am anolog free and have saved of 250.00. Feel much better. Do not weese at night when I sleep. Not to say how much safer for all the none smoker in my family... Otherlady

Stehle

Great!!! Another fellow Floridian!

I am so glad to read your post and to see it has been working for you! (I was there too for over 40 years.)

Thanks for the great input!

Cencil

I must say my experience with JC has been a bad one. I ordered the Arctic Mint and received a bottle of Vanilla. I e-mailed them and they quickly rushed me a bottle of "Arctic Mint". I received my new shipment of juice sometime later and its Espresso flavor.

JC let me keep the bottle of vanilla for free so I was happy. I'm not going to complain or anything to them again because they may think I am trying to get one over on them. I'd gladly return the 2 bottles I have for the right flavor but I don't think that is going to happen.

prof beard

My only experience of JC products has been via e-cigs.co.uk who seem to be their UK agent. The only JC juice I've used is British Bulldog which is made for the UK agent specially. I used quite a lot of it (probably 200ml) and never had any problems with quality, degradation, or atomisers.

firhill

Of Arctic Mint and Mint Choc.Madness..

anyone know which of the two is the thicker,darker one?

Thanks

PUFFDADDY

The arctic mint is lighter but really good, almost like doublemint gum is what it reminds me of. Ive only tried a couple puffs of the mint choc madness and didn't really care for it and it seemed to be a tad bit darker.

PUFF

alvin365

i didnt find any vg on their site

gobstopper

I am very confused as to what all these abreviations are. I ordered JV002 & JV001 in Reduced PG, Low (11 mgs) I ordered from JC One is black Cherry and one original smoke juice. Please enlighten me.

Rocketman

The JV001 is the Original Smoke Juice but in a reduced Propylene Glycol formulation (about 70% Propylene Glycol and about 30% Vegetable Glycerin)
The JV002 is the Black Cherry.
PG=Propylene Glycol
VG=Vegetable Glycerin
Both are there just as carriers for the Nicotine, and to make vapor you can see.
The "Low" has a strength of nicotine expressed in milligrams of nicotine per milliliter of solution (11mg/ml). Some people seem to think Johnson Creek strength is mg of Nic per 1.2ml of solution.
If you smoked light cigarettes, this might do. If you chain smoked Marlboro Reds it ain't gonna make it Their high is 24mg/ml (or maybe 24mg/1.2ml which is about 20mg/ml). High or medium would probably be a better choice. But don't toss out the low.
OK, we covered PG, VG, mg, ml, mg/ml.

Just don't run out of juice

The Rocket

gobstopper

Thanks as always Rocketman. Is one less toxic then the other? I am so paranoid about this liquid either from the prepackaged carts or from me filling carts. Do you think its okay to pull the fiber out of a used card and put a few drops in the bottom then with the fiber back in, top off the cart? I do this and seem to get some of the liquid when inhaling. How long to you think the jc bottles 15 mil will stay good. I feel like such a failure. I got the smoke stick and the 901 but cant get

gobstopper

the hang of it and keep going back to analogs even though I DON'T WANT TO. Sorry for all the questions. This site is wonderful and you are great.......

Rocketman

gob
what's the big deal? I'm paranoid, and I love questions
PG or VG? some like one some like another. Some think one is bad, etc.
Our friends over at the FDA found DEG in PG, at a "less than 1%" level in one or more cartridges they tested. DEG was found in the past in VG based products. DEG is bad, could show up in PG or VG as a "counterfeit" ingredient. Will it happen again? Doubt and hope not. New testing methods are supposed to find it in PG or VG products, IF THE TESTS ARE PERFORMED.

Here's a brief summary of my position:

PG based Chinese e-juice from DeKang only, lot code is prep date
(most of our small suppliers sell this, ask them)

PG based juice from Johnson creek,
PG/VG mixed base from Johnson Creek.
VG based juice from Vermont Vapor.
EcoPure from the UK (still checking this one)
Maybe other products, I just don't know.

Prefilled cartridges?? I don't use them. The juice could be old and not taste good. Bulk liquid can be stored in the fridge for many months. Short exposure shouldn't hurt bulk liquid. Once dispensed into small quantities like cartridges the juice is more susceptible to degradation. Most suppliers (and paranoid users) store juice in their coolers, what about cartridges?
Mixing down juice? Use VG or PG you absolutely trust.
Don't buy unlabeled PG from Joe the Chemist on ebay
I hope someone picks up on my recommended 35/35/15/5 juice.


The above info is my personal opinion, which changes from time to time.
It took a couple weeks for my transition. Go slow if you have to.

The Rocket

Rocketman

And,
I use the itty-bitty eyedropper from a Johnson Creek sample bottle (or 1 dram from SpecialtyBottle.com)to sort of squish down along side the filler and fill a cartridge from way down deep. One dropper full takes care of my 510, and I don't even have to look while I drive. Usually carry a couple of these little bottles in different flavors every where I go.

R

Snarkyone

OK you suckered me into this talk. A lot of people don't like PG because they freak out over the words "industrial coolant" or "antifreeze". Propylene Glycol or PG can cause some people to have an allergic reaction but not everyone. It's used in pharmacies as a mixing compound as well as a coolant but it's funny how the naysayer's fail to mention that part. It's that funny taste you get when you first try your E-cig, or if you have ever had a radiator overheat and you open up the cap and the steam comes out...if you get a mouthful of that you can taste the same thing.

Scared? Don't be, here are some other uses for PG in stuff:
* Solvent for aromatics in the flavor-concentrate industry
* Wetting agent for natural gums
* Ingredient in the compounding of citrus and other emulsified flavors
* Solvent in elixirs and pharmaceutical preparations
* Solvent and coupling agent in the formulation of sun screen, lotion, shampoos, shaving creams and other similar products
* Emulsifier in cosmetic and pharmaceutical creams
* Ingredient for low-temperature heat-transfer fluids involving indirect food contact, such as brewing and dairy uses, as well as refrigerated grocery display cases
* Very effective humectant, preservative and stabilizer in semi-moist pet food (with the exception of cat food), bakery goods, food flavorings and salad dressings

Feel better now over the use of PG vs VG? Keep in mind the PG used in juices is all USP or food grade PG not the industrial kind. On another note I noticed some post about flavors and burned out atomizers. The sugars in many of the flavors is what kills atomizers or shortens their life. It's the sugar that is all that black gunk your finding on your atomizers when you clean them. You will find that your atomizers will last longer if you stick to tobacco flavored juice or avoid the candy type juices. Some are worse than others it's a matter of trial and error to find them since I really don't know which ones are the worse culprits and wouldn't dare point a finger at any supplier. They all use the same type of flavor additives so it don't matter who you buy your Carmel Delight from.