DiVersity

http://www.npr.org/blogs/thesalt/201...et-sized-boost

Years ago I would have loved taking this on my weekend drives home. A 7 hour drive that turned in to an 8 hour drive due to all the coffee stops I made.

Rose

Umm... I'm not a good one to ask since I'm not an inhaler. I think it is not good that they created this. Our kids around here are exposed to fake weed, fake cocaine, and fake meth. The "dealer" keeps changing the way he presents it. It went from "incense" to "bath salts". All of this was sold in convenience stores. Every time he got caught, he chose a different form and a different mode of delivery. Several kids have died from his "stuff" around the country, not locally. Bad thing about it is that I've never known him, but he lives right down the road from me.
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DiVersity

Yeah, there is that. Seems even the most safe objects can be bastardized into lethal ones. While I read this article I was thinking how this would have been a major cool thing to have at the ready when I was in need of a pick me up on those long, sleep inducing road trips.
Shame though that we are now regulated up the patootie due to seriously harmful modifications done to products by consumers.

Rose

Yes, you can always count on some one to ruin a potentially good thing.

Rocketman

As long as 'they' don't mess with


NATURAL SELECTION.

We don't need no freakin life guards in the shallow end.

Shekinahsgroom

I recently read a similar article about this topic and I've got to agree with Rose's view.

This is BAD NEWS!!

Bath salts and caffeinated alcoholic beverages are being banned throughout the country.

Bath salts, in particular, are on the DEA's outlawed list and carry scary prison terms if you're caught with it!!

The caffeine/alcohol drinks are being banned near college campuses and some are even banning Everclear....

It's hard to believe nowadays just how evil corporations have become in the last decade.....

Not to mention the MUSIC kids listen too, GAWD!!?? (I sound like my parents...)

What happened?

tek

Well the salts, are a synthetic form of meth sold for the purpose of geting f ed up, and that was why when people started dieing that they were watched and now getting banned.. The caffenineated alcohol drinks were used to excess, and kids died, and the music they listen to <mind you i am 25> SUCKS!

DiVersity

Moderation. Even though the warning labels are on products, millions of people never even think to bother to read them. I'm not pooh-poohing what, Rose stated, I actually agree with her. I believe due to past history of how consumers use products is one reason why we do get a lot of fake stuff coming our way or we find access to it very regulated.

"Oh, Johnny got the worst rash after we gave him that!" Yeah, 3 -or more-times the suggested dosage you dumb twit. Enough 'Twits' do that and complain or end up in a lawsuit against the manufacturer, we some times lose out on a good, effective ingredient. It becomes regulated or is just gone from the market. Sure, things get taken off the market that should never been in use but there is another segment of banned ingredients that were not harmful if they had been used in moderation -or as was stipulated.

Rocketman, since just a change in an environment -just one example- can affect natural selection I'm more concerned about artificial selection.

Steampunk

You can't buy Everclear or commercial "moonshine" in Mass.

They have had a ban for a while. It was lifted for a short time ( ) but then relpaced a couple years later.

Shekinahsgroom

I meant "recently" in several state's college campuses. Kinda like a dry-county for lack of better term.

Everclear 190 is banned in quite a few states, Florida being one of them!

And Moonshine is outlawed period, ain't it?

Think you need a pharma license to obtain it, donchya?

Rocketman

There must be quite a few good, necessary chemicals that have been banned.

The "Bath Salts" you buy in a convenience store by using the 'correct pass phrase' isn't one of them (you can still get 'bath salts' that are for the bath at Bed, Bath and Beyond). Why some places ban Everclear (great for cleaning ovens and kitchen counters) an Absolutely necessary product is beyond me 150 proof isn't near as effective.

Caffeine and alcohol sounds like a really cool Hi-low trip, why would they ban that? And the Caffeine inhaler? Hasn't anyone heard of "Exam Week"? I bet that's a big hit with the truckers. No need to stop and eliminate the 10 cups of coffee from the previous stop Now they have to add 4 Stok coffee shots, and dissolve 2 No-Doz caps in a thermos to stay wired.

You old timers remember Paregoric? You used to be able to get that from a pharmacist. Now how do parents of little children get any rest? Other than faking a cough and getting a prescription for codeine cough syrup and letting the baby get it through the breast milk.

Kids now have to get a parent to buy spray paint for them. "No mom, I'm not going to Huff it. We are going out to paint bridges. Like community service." "Oh, OK little Johnny. Just don't get caught". "We won't mom. By the way, how did daddy get drain bamaged?" "Airplane Glue".

Maybe if I think really hard I'll come up with a really lame example of a good, safe product being banned.

DiVersity

I'm allergic to watermelon, strawberries, peaches and pure maple sugar and a few other fruits with some minor reactions though I never eat them either. When I was a child my Mom was finding out- after I ate these foods- what set off rashes from my face to my toes. Only thing she had at hand to use was Calamine lotion. She put me in a bath, after the bath I got covered in pink and received immediate lessening of the horrible itching.
Then came the day it wasn't in the store. The pharmacist told her it had been taken off the shelves. He showed her what was its replacement product by the same company. She bought it and it was crap. I recall very clearly how I didn't get that itch relief when she put the new lotion all over me. I do remember my Mom crying, who knows I might have been jumping around screaming because it really was bad until she got the old lotion on me. Not having it available to use even though it was - in my case- so helpful was a nightmare for us.
I do dislike how we get hammered with regulations when it at times isn't necessary. I'm not trying to be combative here. I also dont think I was making any broad statments- or lame ones- just my take on how I feel about this. Ill end posting in this topic. lol

Rocketman

sorry Di,
wasn't trying to imply you were being lame. There ARE too many regulations. Seems to be more every day. Too many restrictions on 'free enterprise' (sorry, just had too).

I agree that many good products of the past have either been dropped, or diluted to the point they aren't effective.

I bet a little everclear in the bath would help. with a little Grape

DiVersity

I read your post wrong then, Rocketman. No apology necessary though even if I hadn't my understanding about forums is that if we don't agree about something everyone has a right to voice that they don't agree with it. I decided to bow out of the topic because it was veering in to- at least I thought it was- to my having to defend something that I won't budge about. Since I try to not engage in conversations-or forum topics- that are me practising insincerity I decided to stop posting in the topic. Here I am though, posting. Darn email alerts lol
Hmm. everclear yes, grapes no. Grapes are on my fruit list that give me minor rash reactions I love fruits and really would like to try and vape all the fruits I cant eat. I'm too scared to try though. I keep thinking that it is still fruit though in a different form and I will pay dearly trying to vape it lol

Rocketman

Some might only be imitation flavors but probably not worth the risk to find out. Allergic reactions are not something to play around with.

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