Winniepooh1970

Okay I got my 510 Mega, I love love love it!! I got my juice and love that as well. Now I need to know where to buy Boge 510LR's. Can you guys help me out?

Pooh

Dhileas

Here: 510 Series Cartomizers

40bikes

Hi Steph, glad you got your kit. I don't think LR attys or carts are intended for batteries of less than 400mAh. You can probably use it but it will stress your batteries and severely shorten the battery life( as in lasting a month instead of 6-7 months)
the technopros will chime in . I'm glad you are hanging in with the vaping. bikes

Winniepooh1970

So what is the best thing I could use?

40bikes

510 batteries come in two forms: the genuine Joye products which have chemistry or electronics that limit voltage to about 3 volts almost all others that are called 510s are 3.7 volts and some atties and cartomisers work better with one of three volts ;others work better with the 3.7 510 "clones"( they look like 510s but aren't the "real" thing.)
Generally either type of battery will be fine at 2.4-3.0 ohms resistance. LR atties are usually between 1.5-2.0 ohms.
LR atties or cartos will work fine with big batteries but the megas fall under the minimum capacity to work well with LR and last very long. Sorry,Pooh but 2.0 ohms is probably the very lowest resistance you want to use with your megas they will produce plenty of vapor but are harder on your battery than 2.5-3.0 cartos. Litecigusa.net has reg and 2.0 ohm cartos as well as LRs.

Steampunk

Interesting question. I have been using 2 ohm Boges on an eGo, but I only use the eGo sparingly. Frankly, I don't like a lot of circuitry in a mod, and make my own that are basically a battery, a switch and a connector. Some people have been saying their eGos/Rivas have been dying after a short time using 2 ohm carts; MadVapes (can't remember his name) says No Problem. So I would probably go with an eGo (they seem to have fewer problems than the Riva) and get some kind of passthrough for use in the car. Not for the computer, though.
I'd go with something like this:
ZipKord Dual USB Universal Wall Charger at MobileCityOnline.com

You want at least an amp and a half, 2 amps is better. Plugging in to your computer can cause problems or destroy your computer, unless you get something like an eGo "Sit and go", that has an 1100maH battery and uses a USB port. The atomizer is drawing current from the battery, not the USB port.

Or get someone to make you a mod...with a battery, a switch, and a connector... (See "Cheap All Day Sucker" thread here...)

berger

Yea I'd have to agree the LR cartos are too much for the small batteries like that, but from what Ive seen around here lots of people are using them with egos (or facsimilies live Rivas, Pig Cigs etc.) Ive been using 2.5 ohm CE2 XL cartos on mine with no problems at all for well over a couple months now.

40bikes

Guys, we have a pretty good record of making recommendations to help people maximize their success getting peeps off analogs and that starts with 510,901/808D-1 as a baseline.
Pooh came in I believe with a budget stipulation and landed a 510 mega then asks about LR cartos .
510s are better than some of the small cart models out there, megas are better yet they just aren't compatible with Low Rez atomiser coils.
I've got mods coming out my ears, still looking for the perfect vape, but I'm operating at a different level than most. I don't see the need for high voltage mods or LR atties to produce the kind of vapor that works for me. 3.7 volts and normal resistance works for me. Bigger batteries and large capacity CE2 cartos takes the leash off so I can get away from the chargers and my juice lab.
Pooh may feel she got snookered on the recommendations made but LR adds a different
number to the easy vaping equation.

Steampunk

Hey, just offering the benefit of my 'experience' and what it takes to get me from firing up a real ciggie. 2 Ohms and a powered mod or big battery mod keep me happy. I spent a lot of money looking for the 'perfect setup' (still haven't quite found it, BTW, and I think it will be a while before someone makes something close to a real ciggie), but so far, this is what it takes to keep me off ciggies.

berger

Correct me if Im wrong but didn't most people around here for a while start and succeed before LR was even around? I think the forum information overload is becoming the problem here. The 510 is somewhat old tech but people are reading pages and pages of year old or more stuff about how great they are. Noobs are getting convinced about what device to buy kinda like looking at last years PC mag and making decisions based on that. Recently Ive asked this same question of several new comers and they all say the same thing. Then, many go for the cheaper arrangement of a 510 with maybe extra battery capacity and then they want to run the newest LR carto/atty on it and its not an optimal solution.
IMHO, heres the bottom line based on today's technology, skip the 510, 808, 910 they are training wheels. Get an Ego, Riva or Pig Cig right off the get go. Its not much cost difference (like what 20.00? whats that 3 packs of analogs?) when you buy it later (odds are you will if you continue) that saves you the cost of a 510 starter kit. If you are here seeking advice, you are already committed enough to make it work right out of the box. How many times have you started a new hobby or activity only to find out I wish I had bought something a little better at the onset so I hadn't wasted the money in the beginning with this toy.

OK there you have it. Blast away as Im sure several of you will, but Im still right....so there.

HiRezL

Right now the best setups for me are 808D-1 XL CE2's on a 650mAH Pigcig, and 510 drip-tips on a 650mAH eGo. Like the others, I am still searching for perfection. I'm going to be experimenting with MAP tank mods and CE2's on the 510 next, maybe looking for some 1100 mAH big batt mods in the 808D-1 or 510 platform.
While I'm on the subject, I've found I really like the vapor and flavor I'm getting from using the drip-tips with 510 atomizers, but though I only put 3 drops in, I have some problems with leakage out the base, is this normal?

HiRezL

Oh, and when I have the option of different resistances, like with the CE2's, I have found that the 2.3 ohm with 3.7 volts works best.

berger

Rez, correct me if I misunderstand something but the PicCig and Egos (and Rivas, tornados etc.etc.) are 3.2V not 3.7V output. Is that what your using the 2.3 cartos with?

HiRezL

That's what I am using, I thought they were 3.7, I guess I was wrong?

berger

Well yes and no....hows that for a straight answer LOL
As far as I know (pig cig and riva and ego's) are pulse modulated to 3.2V
The battery is 3.7 but not the output. I believe the reason is to provide a more even vaping experience as the voltage is more constant this way.

HiRezL

Ah, the battery is probably where I got the 3.7 volt figure from. That's why I come here, so I may become better informed.

berger

Damn....that must have been a mistake...I'll try harder next time

40bikes

And that's the reality of all this we can only give our personal experience and THAT is very individualized.
My Hello and eGo batts are 3.3v fully charged and that is joyetech technology voltage.
My rivas, 510 clones, pigcigs, 808 and 901 as well as my mods are all 3.7 batteries and not to confuse the issue, but they charge to 4.2 volts
And for a newbie you have to spell this stuff out for them if you want to help. At this point their eyes glaze over and they go outside for a smoke.
Berger, a real joye eGo is a 510 device because of the voltage and the fact that Joye doesn't make eGos with anything but a 510 thread.
Rivas,Xpowers, Vgos and a lot of other clone "egos" require that you ask your retailer voltage and threading questions.
When we make recommendations we are probably gonna miss some things and new vapers may not know what to ask, that's why the learning curve is so shallow; "But what about...?" three months later.

berger

Yea I found out about the output volts only after I tried to meter a Riva and the meter went nuts and Rocky explained what was going on with the pulse regulation. Like you say live and learn and we all have good intentions
(well most of us anyway )

The thing that sort of bugs me is that new people come through reading all this "outdated" info in the models section and come away thinking the 510 is the do all end all unit. That might have been true a year or so ago but I don't think that's even close anymore. As simple as the technology is, I think there's more advancement in this industry then in computer hardware in the last year as vaping becomes more main stream. I also don't think the industry as a whole has even begun to hit its stride yet as more and more people discover or come back to it especially while our so called representatives continue to tax tobacco the way they do.

quasimod

Rez, the 510 is normally a "leaky" atty when your dripping, just the nature of the beast. Practice and experience reduces the problem, but doesn't solve it. I keep a napkin or something in my pocket to cleanthe connector when needed (you can tell the difference in taste/performance when the connector and atty threads are soaked). Sometimes small leaks can be "sort of fixed" witha sharp, hard suck (ooh, baby!).

You just gotta make the determination if it's worth it to you, to have all that flavor and vapor, ya know?

Kevin

It's worth it.

HiRezL

Thanks Quasi

Steampunk

The battery is rated at 3.7 volts, but the circuit clamps the voltage at 3.2. Not sure how, it may be a function of the PWM that keeps the voltage lower, or it may just be a naturally occurring drop across the MOSFET.

Probably why I'm getting my butt kicked by my mods and the 2 ohm cartos, because I'm getting the full output from the big battery (4.0-4.2V to start) and not having it clamped at a lower voltage.

Steampunk

Brother, are you in the wrong place!

Where the helk is our resident engineer?

quasimod

Staring fixedly at the hoizon, his steely... I mean, googly gaze anticipating moonrise. Tonight, he becomes famous. Tonight, he carves his initials into the face of the moon with his latest flashlight mod: The Nuclear Incinerator! (dun-dun-DAHHHHH!)

Or maybe that's just happening in my head. I dunno.