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02-11-2010, 08:44 PM
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#1 | | Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Hawaii
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| Aloha All
I am in trouble, I am a chain smoker and started vaping about a month ago and have become disillusioned with the filling and the constant changing and charging of the batteries. If I have any chance of succeeding I need a long lasting battery mod, I have researched everything out there and need something now. I have a very limited budget and was going to buy the indulgence from eastmall, seemed to everything I needed. I will be modding myself soon, but need to break my current habit now. I hate asking for help, but could use a little at this point, I am home bound and need something now. Any suggestion from the great modders on this site,
PS: very impressed with the quality of information available here, |
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02-11-2010, 09:02 PM
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#2 | | TO SERVE AND PROTECT :) Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Louisiana
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| KingToker,
What e-cigs are you using?
Before dipping into the expense of a MOD, and there are many nice ones out there, are you comfortable with the vaping experience.
If you are going to stick with vaping, and my opinion is quit first, if you can't then vape, fine tune your expectations before branching out.
Tell us what you are using, and I'm sure someone will come up with a recommendation for something better
Even though I like to promote DIY to those that can, the American made MODs (like the Chuck or the little Bartleby) seem to be simple and reliable.
My wife has been using the Chinese 905 and likes it.
Assuming you will be vaping a regular low-volt mod, just pick how big a battery you need, and the type of atty you like the most and go shopping.
Watch out for the Hype. You find little "hype's" running around the floor at a lot of websites.
See, just so many options.
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02-11-2010, 09:23 PM
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#3 | | Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Hawaii
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| We, my wife and I are using Joye 510, PCC for mega batts, and have 5 set with extras and a passthrough, I have painstakingly researched everything on this site and many other, I am a geek modder and would never be satisfied with a standard unit bigger badder better is my motto, My wife seems to like the 510 w/ the mega batteries, your mod' sounded good until I saw what was out there, Stick, Chuck, Bartleby, Indulgence, juice, just to name a few, I think I would prefer a 5v with a long lasting battery. what are the hype you speak of?
Money is a huge issue for me, seeing I do not work...
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02-11-2010, 09:46 PM
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#4 | | Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Philadelphia
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Originally Posted by KingToker We, my wife and I are using Joye 510, PCC for mega batts, and have 5 set with extras and a passthrough, I have painstakingly researched everything on this site and many other, I am a geek modder and would never be satisfied with a standard unit bigger badder better is my motto, My wife seems to like the 510 w/ the mega batteries, your mod' sounded good until I saw what was out there, Stick, Chuck, Bartleby, Indulgence, juice, just to name a few, I think I would prefer a 5v with a long lasting battery. what are the hype you speak of?
Money is a huge issue for me, seeing I do not work... | Hehe got like 10 bucks and some electonics knowledge ask rocket about flashlights. |
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02-11-2010, 09:48 PM
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#5 | | Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: MD
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| I have 4 bartlebys .. Very nice PV under a load with a multi meter I see anywhere from 3.9-3.7v under load with a 2.1ohm 510 atty.. dose not sound that big of a deal but compared to a stock 510 batt under a load (3.2-3.5v) its a huge difference.. plus a single 14500 batt last almost all day.. |
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02-11-2010, 09:51 PM
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#6 | | Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: MD
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Originally Posted by Rocketman KingToker,
What e-cigs are you using?
Before dipping into the expense of a MOD, and there are many nice ones out there, are you comfortable with the vaping experience.
If you are going to stick with vaping, and my opinion is quit first, if you can't then vape, fine tune your expectations before branching out.
Tell us what you are using, and I'm sure someone will come up with a recommendation for something better
Even though I like to promote DIY to those that can, the American made MODs (like the Chuck or the little Bartleby) seem to be simple and reliable.
My wife has been using the Chinese 905 and likes it.
Assuming you will be vaping a regular low-volt mod, just pick how big a battery you need, and the type of atty you like the most and go shopping.
Watch out for the Hype. You find little "hype's" running around the floor at a lot of websites.
See, just so many options.
Rocket | Hey rocket have you tested that 905 under a load Im curious to see if its a true 3.7v like the bartleby is... Im thinking about getting one but Im going to use a 510 adapter.. |
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02-11-2010, 09:51 PM
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#7 | | Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Hawaii
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| Is there any one willing to give me an old mod, or a trial offer with an option to buy, there are enough awesome people here, this must be an option. The all day sucker, or a flashlight mod. The Indulgence seemed to have all the configuration and option in one PV, but they are no longer on the eastmall site. I would be will to give honest opinion in form of a blog or share my feelings, but beware I will not hold back my true feelings positive or negative. Please Someone help, I am desperate.
Sorry to who ever his name is, I forgot, had a great video series on a detonator..
Rocket is the Chinese 905, the screwdriver?
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02-11-2010, 10:26 PM
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#8 | | Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: st louis
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| well rather then mod a battery i went with a passthru since i sit in a truck all day the usb works great off of the lighter outlet in the truck and when im home i plug it into the computer or the ps3 for power. works great for me |
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02-11-2010, 10:41 PM
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#9 | | ~A 500+ WHo DaT?!?! Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: CaJuN LoUiSiaNa SWaMPLaND
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Originally Posted by stltransporter well rather then mod a battery i went with a passthru since i sit in a truck all day the usb works great off of the lighter outlet in the truck and when im home i plug it into the computer or the ps3 for power. works great for me | My hubs likes this too...rants and raves over his pass-throughs over all others. He uses it in his truck on his hour drive to work...and back at his computer. Now if I could get him to NOT buy the cigs, I'd be way happier!
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02-11-2010, 11:03 PM
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#10 | | Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Hawaii
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| TNX stltransporter I use a Joye 1CR10440p 320mah passthrough but it's still not enough for me I was lookig at something like The VP-PT operates at 4.90 volts and 1.4 amps with a atomizers attached (under load) with the USB power pack. So you need to adjust your hit time, because it can be very strong.(from VaprLife) VP-PT (USB PASS THRU) ---(from Pure Smoker) 1 x PS Manual USBpass (Updated Design, 3 Piece Button, Stainless Steel Construction, Shorter Cord-no Volt or amp on page hat I could find
I need a strong hitter, I smoke little cigars, lots of them, The standard batt, and mega batt are just not doing it for me, My wife is doing fine on these, she likes the Mega PCC better hit and vape for her, just insufficient for me. |
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02-11-2010, 11:05 PM
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#11 | | Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: West Texas/New Mexico
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| Stl is right, the passthrough is a great"mod". around 20bucks +S&H and it comes for the 510s with a couple 14500 batts and a charger. It can be unplugged and the batt gives you 3.7v vapability between car and computer. It's a lot cheaper than another carton of smokes or your next doctors visit. Sorry,I guess the batts probably are 10440s on the pass through. bikes
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02-11-2010, 11:14 PM
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#12 | | Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Arkansas
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| We need a 90 second charge bat in the size of the ecig. Black and Decker has done with a screw driver, there is a flash light out there. I dare someone to come up with it. |
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02-11-2010, 11:17 PM
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#13 | | Home of Vaper Research Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Leftern Mass
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Originally Posted by stltransporter well rather then mod a battery i went with a passthru since i sit in a truck all day the usb works great off of the lighter outlet in the truck and when im home i plug it into the computer or the ps3 for power. works great for me | Yeah, this is actually a good idea. If the OP is using a Joye 510, not much beats the Joye pass thru.
If money is an issue, bear in mind a 5v mod, while offering CLOUDS of vapor, also shortens the life of the atty. Kind of like plugging a 12V lightbulb into a 24V socket. Runs bright for a time, and then...*POOF*!
Believe me, if there's anyone that knows about short atty lives...
A mod would cost ~$5 for materials, and 5-12 for a battery. A pass thru costs $18 for a Joye from Vt Vapor and others. Quick and easy...the mailman delivers a box, you open it and plug it in...
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02-11-2010, 11:33 PM
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#14 | | Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Hawaii
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| Hachiroku this is the pass through I am using now, just not doing for me, and with out being to sarcastic you history wit attys are'nt the best, Would a HV Atty help with a higher volt mod...My understanding is that the HV attys are for7.2...
Somebody has to have a better idea? I just need a stronger better mod, I know it is the only thing that will help with the transition, Someone throw me a bone...please
The juice box has all the things that would make my life easier, just out of my reach... |
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02-11-2010, 11:48 PM
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#15 | | Home of Vaper Research Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Leftern Mass
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Originally Posted by KingToker Hachiroku this is the pass through I am using now, just not doing for me, and with out being to sarcastic you history wit attys are'nt the best, KT just made the understatement of the DECADE!!!
Would a HV Atty help with a higher volt mod...My understanding is that the HV attys are for7.2...
Somebody has to have a better idea? I just need a stronger better mod, I know it is the only thing that will help with the transition, Someone throw me a bone...please
The juice box has all the things that would make my life easier, just out of my reach... |
I don't know what I'm doing that's killing attys...although I have a couple mods that run at 4.2V. I have had one atty go three weeks, from Mad Vapes, but he doesn't have them anymore...
I have one left. I'll measure the resistance before I start using it.
I burned out a different model atty in...4 days.
Just keep saying to yourself, this isn't the same as a ciggy. It doesn;t take much to get used to (said the man who bought a pack of CAMELS today...)
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02-12-2010, 12:16 AM
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#16 | | ~A 500+ WHo DaT?!?! Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: CaJuN LoUiSiaNa SWaMPLaND
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Originally Posted by Hachiroku Just keep saying to yourself, this isn't the same as a ciggy. It doesn;t take much to get used to (said the man who bought a pack of CAMELS today...) | Hey, 1 thing I did before ecigs is bought these little plastic filter things on ebay that cut the tar n smoot out. I used these religiously and they had tons of gunky, goopy, sappy, sticky stuff in them (I cleaned a couple out when I ran out once). I don't recall ever having nicotine withdrawals, so figure I was still getting the nicotine.
The point I'm getting to is that perhaps you're addicted to that goopy stuff in cigs and you just will not get that out of an ecig. I'll mail all my leftover filters to you if you want to use them on your analog cigs just to see what happens. Seriously. You might need to ween off THAT before you quit craving them.
It's a thought.
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02-12-2010, 12:35 AM
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#17 | | Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Hawaii
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| Rocketman what are the chances of getting a flashlight mod to try,?????
1? is it 3.7
2? anything stronger 4 or 5
3? what is the mah of the batt's
I forgot who make the detonator, his stats seem appealing, 5
What do you think
I need to do something soon, my little cigars are increasing everyday... |
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02-12-2010, 12:55 AM
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#18 | | Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Bay Area CA
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| Try bypassing the battery in your 510 PT.....you should see a big difference when getting the full 5V. |
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02-12-2010, 01:02 AM
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#19 | | TO SERVE AND PROTECT :) Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Louisiana
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| Getting a Trailer Park is a possibility.
It is configured for the 3.7/4.2 volt 18650 Protected Li-ion cell with 1800mah to maybe 2800mah (pretty Red one labeled 3000mah). I did this primarily for battery life. I only go though 2 or 3 of these a day. With a Genuine Joye 510 atty it hits harder than a Joye 510. With a Genuine Clone 510 atty it hits a little harder than a Joye 510. I don't do 5 volts so don't have any first hand info.
I have forwarded a few to others to try but I don't supply Atty, carts, battery, charger.
I build them, test them, and don't guarantee nothin about them.
You said in a prior post you wanted to do 5 volts. Why? Do you want more than a stock Joye 510 will do, or would 5 volts and a high volt/high resistance atty do? This might be a step down from a Joye 510. See my point. Define where you've been and where you want to go.
PM if still interested.
and the OP's handle that makes the detonator is Robert, do a member search. He has his e-mail is one of his recent posts.
and the 905 is a Chinese copy of a U.S. designed Screwdriver, similar but different  My wife uses the 905. They are improving them, better, but still a ways to go. Cheaper than a Screwdriver.
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02-12-2010, 03:20 AM
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#20 | | Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: St. Louis
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| just built my first AA bat box mod. Ordered parts and got free instructions from mark at madvapes.com The cheap parts and batteries and great customer service can not be beat anywhere.
The box is far too crude to post pics, but I ordered enough to build two, so next one should be pretty and easy.
I like the vapor production with 510 atty and flavor/TH of the 808d-1 cartos.
I would recommend the little pill sized analog filters Dwellsouth reffered to. these things helped my friend quit while also using the ecig.
What strength nic juice are you using?
I found it hard to smoke when I bombarded myself with 36mg in those first months' moments of hardcore cravings. |
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02-12-2010, 03:31 AM
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#21 | | TO SERVE AND PROTECT :) Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Louisiana
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| The first 10 or 12 mods will look a little crude. You will get better with practice.
Cool Huh?
Nic strength: I got away from 36mg/ml pretty quick, 24 then 18, now on 12 but it's pretty weak. But it works so I'll try not to go back up.
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02-12-2010, 12:00 PM
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#22 | | Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: usa
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| If you have a pt without the inline batts this is the equivilant to a 5V mod. I agree at 5V+ you will burn through attys so it will be expensive with the 5V pt or a higher voltage mod. I cannot see what good a mod would do if a 5V pt doesn't work for you.
What strength juice are you using? A higher strength juice (within reason) would probably be a better option vs a hv mod.
It almost seems like you just want someone to give you a mod??
Quote:Is there any one willing to give me an old mod, or a trial offer with an option to buy, there are enough awesome people here, this must be an option.
Quote:I know it is the only thing that will help with the transition, Someone throw me a bone...please
Quote:Rocketman what are the chances of getting a flashlight mod to try,?????
Quote (atty killer thread):How much If you would build me one, I am smart but am limited in the electronic side. |
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02-12-2010, 08:46 PM
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#23 | | Home of Vaper Research Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Leftern Mass
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Originally Posted by Dwellsouth Hey, 1 thing I did before ecigs is bought these little plastic filter things on ebay that cut the tar n smoot out. I used these religiously and they had tons of gunky, goopy, sappy, sticky stuff in them (I cleaned a couple out when I ran out once). I don't recall ever having nicotine withdrawals, so figure I was still getting the nicotine.
The point I'm getting to is that perhaps you're addicted to that goopy stuff in cigs and you just will not get that out of an ecig. I'll mail all my leftover filters to you if you want to use them on your analog cigs just to see what happens. Seriously. You might need to ween off THAT before you quit craving them.
It's a thought. | I only bought the Camels 'cause I was pi$$3d off at the job I was doing. It was my first time setting up this terminal (7-11) and I needed help, and the guy at the Helpdesk needed help!!!!
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02-12-2010, 09:48 PM
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#24 | | Dismembered Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: USA
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Originally Posted by tarkus If you have a pt without the inline batts this is the equivilant to a 5V mod. I agree at 5V+ you will burn through attys so it will be expensive with the 5V pt or a higher voltage mod. I cannot see what good a mod would do if a 5V pt doesn't work for you. What strength juice are you using? A higher strength juice (within reason) would probably be a better option vs a hv mod.
| A PT without an inline batt means nothing on it's own, the only way it will be equivalent to a 5V mod is if it's being driven by a 2.2A power supply (assuming a 2.2 ohm Joye atty). Your juice point is well taken.
@ KingToker
You also didn't mention how well 'tuned' your 510 (Joye hopefully) is. Are you getting good vapor production? Have you fiddled with the filler to increase flow? Have you tried direct dripping on the atty?
If you are at 24mg the first thing you need to try is 36mg before randomly deciding it's more volts you need. So far between your bats and Joye PT you've been at 3.2V tops, about 4.5W. Note the big single battery mods suggested will up you to about 6W. But if it's a nic problem you'll still be unsatisfied at more watts. Unless you have a need for the bling the VP-PT provides you can get similar vaping for about $25. You'll still be a bit shy of 5V but you'll be at about double the WATTS of your batts. Model 510 Cord USB Pass-through A/C USB Adapter
I have 2 of these AC adapters, they rock (got them a little cheaper a while ago). They have been recomended and praised on many forums.
Try a higher nic first. You might also try Stonewall while vaping to get some of those additional tobacco alkaloids you might be craving. That's why I think it may always a good idea to have a little Tobacco Absolute in any DIY liquid. Chewing Tobacco |
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02-12-2010, 10:22 PM
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#25 | | Home of Vaper Research Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Leftern Mass
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Originally Posted by KingToker Rocketman what are the chances of getting a flashlight mod to try,?????
1? is it 3.7
2? anything stronger 4 or 5
3? what is the mah of the batt's
I forgot who make the detonator, his stats seem appealing, 5
What do you think
I need to do something soon, my little cigars are increasing everyday... | I made a mod using a TI DC to DC converter, and configured it for 4.2 volts.
With ANY atty, it vapes like crazy, but it seems to be costing me in attys, esp with what Rocket recently posted about voltage at load. When I was figuring watts, I was using the full output of the battery. So, if the actual output is lower, the current is lower, the wattage is lower.
Mine STAYS at 4.2, and may have something to do with why I'm frying attys at an alarming rate.
I think I'll reconfigure for 3.7V (nominal Li Ion voltage, no load) and see what happens.
I do get quite a cloud, though, but if money is an issue (and it IS) burning an atty every 4-7 days isn't an option...
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