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02-21-2010, 08:53 PM
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#51 | | TO SERVE AND PROTECT :) Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Louisiana
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| King,
package made to Honolulu Saturday night, should be at your door Monday.
Let me know.
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02-21-2010, 09:09 PM
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#52 | | Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Hawaii
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| Got 2 batteries locally at $12 each ohwell , but ordered 2 UltraFire 18650 3000mAh Protected Li-ion Battery 3.7V and 2x UltraFire 18650 (I think 2600) Rechargeable Battery + Charger all for under $20 on ebay. | |
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02-22-2010, 08:58 AM
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#53 | | Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Hawaii
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| I bought the local batteries with out really looking at them, because my wife and I where in a hurry. No surprise there..
It is not what I thought after a closer examination. Is any one familiar with a LR18650, here are the spec's I could find.
LR 1850AH-2200mAh(at .2cA out) (cc/cv) I think it's a Tianjin Lishen but not labled.
The only thing printed on it was-( LS.LR1865AH / Y0O188.50000634 )
Am I returning these are they OK..????????? | |
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02-22-2010, 01:02 PM
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#54 | | TO SERVE AND PROTECT :) Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Louisiana
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Originally Posted by KingToker  I bought the local batteries with out really looking at them, because my wife and I where in a hurry. No surprise there..
It is not what I thought after a closer examination. Is any one familiar with a LR18650, here are the spec's I could find.
LR 1850AH-2200mAh(at .2cA out) (cc/cv) I think it's a Tianjin Lishen but not labled.
The only thing printed on it was-( LS.LR1865AH / Y0O188.50000634 )
Am I returning these are they OK..????????? | I believe those are 18650 Li-ion cells used for memory backup, you find them in a lot of computer supply stores. They have the voltage required but the (at .2cA out) means they are rated for 0.2 times the rating output in amps. I don't think Lishen has a high current cell. Just not sure. Can you contact the seller (local ?) and see if they are for camera packs, e books, etc or for memory backup.
They are probably not "protected" cells. MichaelMurder bought a cell that didn't seem to be able to power an e-cig atty, PM him and see if he got the same one you did.
(call and see what the return policy is)
Rocket
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02-22-2010, 01:38 PM
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#55 | | TO SERVE AND PROTECT :) Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Louisiana
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| Ok even more non-info.
The .2cA is the rating method to obtain the 2200mah.
They discharge it at a .2C rate (.2 times the 2200) and
calculate the capacity. 1850mah is the minimum necessary to meet the 2200mah spec.
(gotta make at least 1850 or they can't label it 2200).
It seems the Lishen cell does have a max discharge current of 2C (2 times 2200mah) or a max discharge current of 4.4 amps. That seems to be in line with most others.
But, it is still probably not a protected cell.
Non protected cells I have run across are 65 to 66mm long. If over 66mm long, then they probably have a protection circuit board that accounts for the extra length.
I would check with seller, probably knows what he has sold the cells for and what his return criteria would be.
And touch base with MandM.
Sorry but so many different sources for these batteries.
Rocket
I hate not being a lot of help
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02-22-2010, 01:48 PM
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#56 | | Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Hawaii
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| I here ya, at least I have more on the way...
Talked to seller not protected, I just had a feeling when I was looking at the batteries last night that there was something different and kinda knew but had to be sure..It's always something with me never goes right..
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02-22-2010, 03:10 PM
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#57 | | Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Philadelphia
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| Don't let it get you down man. Batteries are a bit tricky if you don't know enough about 'em. Like Rocket said i walked into an issue with a battery yesterday. /sigh still trying to find one that will work | |
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02-22-2010, 03:18 PM
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#58 | | Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Philadelphia
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| Take a look at my issue i'm adding the reason i why it's not working. 3.6v box mod FLOP | |
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02-22-2010, 03:35 PM
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#59 | | TO SERVE AND PROTECT :) Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Louisiana
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| King,
if these have a high enough current capability to fire off an atty and you can't get your money back (best), You can charge these and use them to a degree in a mod.
The Big Problem is super overvaping and getting the cell hot, don't do that.
Or vaping until the cell voltage drops below 2.5 volt, loaded, about 3.0 unloaded.
There will be next to nothing in vapor at that voltage, and if you kept trying, you could get the cell voltage way low, and try and draw current from it, NOT A GOOD THING.
A little LED can run these down, they can self discharge, not a big problem,
But draw current from a low battery, and you risk chemical runaway.
Can you use one to vape on? IF you never try to vape the battery dry. Think you can do that? If it slows down, stop vaping, charge it. Not recommended, but can be done.
Best approach, get your money back and get protected cells. Probably paid too much anyway.
Otherwise, can you make it all the way to the Marina from the balcony window with a 18650? | |
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02-22-2010, 10:41 PM
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02-22-2010, 10:58 PM
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#61 | | TO SERVE AND PROTECT :) Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Louisiana
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| Not the same drawer as the ammo< I hope.
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02-23-2010, 01:39 AM
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#62 | | Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: sw fl
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| Take another look at Janty. got to their site and read about the Ego / tornado Then look for posts on EF by Cisco about the ego battery. The batts we've been using are laser / camera batts and Janty's research dept has rethought the batt aspect from the ground up. It wont be long till we start seeing these new super cells available for our specific applications. I've suspended all mod manufacture till then. Besides since my ego arrived I haven't needed anything else 3 wks and still getting 6-8 hrs per charge with no fade. till now the only thing close was an 18650 Chuck style mod. This Ego is amazing. The last hit is as good as the first and its at least six hrs later. As another reviewer said "It's all about the battery." | |
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02-23-2010, 01:45 AM
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#63 | | TO SERVE AND PROTECT :) Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Louisiana
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| Agreed,
Since you don't need your Chuck anymore, can I have it?  | |
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02-23-2010, 01:55 AM
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#64 | | Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: sw fl
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| No! It's going on display with all my other ventures in vaping. Someday I'll need it for a A book on how much I've spent trying stop my addictions first smoking and now modding and all things related to vaping. It's quiet a collection! | |
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02-23-2010, 01:57 AM
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#65 | | Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Philadelphia
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Originally Posted by wellfedned No! It's going on display with all my other ventures in vaping. Someday I'll need it for a A book on how much I've spent trying stop my addictions first smoking and now modding and all things related to vaping. It's quiet a collection! | You should post some photos. no point for me my collection is just starting | |
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02-23-2010, 02:00 AM
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#66 | | Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: sw fl
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| Photos , Are you trying start another addiction? | |
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02-23-2010, 02:03 AM
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#67 | | TO SERVE AND PROTECT :) Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Louisiana
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| There's a thread here someplace, hasn't been used for a while,
Post your collection.
I know my post to it is severely outdated
and about the Chuck,
just had to try
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02-23-2010, 02:06 AM
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#68 | | Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: sw fl
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| Understood. It's just a knock off anyway. I couldn't do the graphics justice. | |
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02-23-2010, 02:18 AM
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#69 | | Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Philadelphia
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Originally Posted by Rocketman There's a thread here someplace, hasn't been used for a while,
Post your collection.
I know my post to it is severely outdated
and about the Chuck,
just had to try
R | Found it more talking than collections though. Think i may start a new one.
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02-23-2010, 12:09 PM
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#70 | | Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Hawaii
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| no more posts 4 a while, my wife died of heart attack yesterday. bye all............................... | |
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02-23-2010, 12:12 PM
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#71 | | ~A 500+ WHo DaT?!?! Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: CaJuN LoUiSiaNa SWaMPLaND
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| OMG My prayers are with you.
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02-23-2010, 01:37 PM
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#72 | | TO SERVE AND PROTECT :) Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Louisiana
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Originally Posted by KingToker no more posts 4 a while, my wife died of heart attack yesterday. bye all............................... | KingToker,
I would like to offer my condolences for your loss. I could not imagine that happening to me. I hope you know that you have friends here on the forum
(much better than myspace friends).
I would like to contribute something I just received from you, in the name of the VapeAtron forum to use toward flowers or a nice card.
Please know that even though we haven't met you or your wife we share in your sadness.
The best,
Your Friend,
Rocket
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02-23-2010, 09:36 PM
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#73 | | Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: West Texas/New Mexico
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| Condolences, King . Sorry to hear of your loss. Lord bless you while you deal with this, bikes | |
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02-23-2010, 11:24 PM
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#74 | | Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: sw fl
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| May she rest in peace. You will be in my thoughts and prayers | |
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02-24-2010, 12:30 AM
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#75 | | TO SERVE AND PROTECT :) Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Louisiana
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| I don't know when KingToker will be back on.
But if anyone would like to send a comment PM it to me (I'll try to keep enough room in my folder) and I'll include it in a card I am mailing in the morning.
Rocket
OK, PM folder has room
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