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#26 | | Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: st louis
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| man all this electronic stuff messes with my head im not even gonna get started into that area I know i suck at electrical things so id sooner not attempt to mess with that area of modding lol | 
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#27 | | Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Hawaii
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5 volts. Why? I have read they vape better
Do you want more than a stock Joye 510 will do, or would 5 volts and a high volt/high resistance atty do? I just want more vape and better batt life, thats it.
Tarkus
If you have a pt without the inline batts this is the equivilant to a 5V mod. I agree at 5V+ you will burn through attys so it will be expensive with the 5V pt or a higher voltage mod. I cannot see what good a mod would do if a 5V pt doesn't work for you. ---The Joye PS with 10440 vapes just like a standard batt just don't have to change batt, its not a 5V PS, and I am not sure how to bypass safely.
JohnnyJames
How well 'tuned' your 510 (Joye hopefully) is. Not sure what you mean by "Tuned"
Are you getting good vapor production? Minimal to mediocre
Have you fiddled with the filler to increase flow? Yes have tried different fillers and straw and spring mod
Have you tried direct dripping on the atty? No
If you are at 24mg the first thing you need to try is 36mg. I am ordering 36mg with next shipment (using 24mg now) and I use Stonewall when flying.....
Thank you for all the comments and good ideas, and I do want a Mod mainly for batt life and more vape, don't care which!!!!! | |
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02-13-2010, 01:21 AM
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#28 | | TO SERVE AND PROTECT :) Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Louisiana
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| Looks like you have established your "reference point", a Joye 510, and want to move up.
Picking "I want 5 volts because" still sounds like an arbitrary move up.
One move up (from the Joye 2.3 ohm atty and 3.1 volt loaded 510 battery) would be the 2.3 ohm Joye atty and 3.7 volts. You may or may not have experienced that with your passthru. If so, then the move up to 5 volts is next.
To move on up to "5volts" would probably mean a first step up to a "clone 2.7 ohm atty" and a 5 volt MOD. and maybe even further up to a "2.3 ohm Joye atty and 5 volts". 5 volt mods cost $$ because additional electronics are required in the design. One additional thing to think about with 5 volts; two 700 ma batteries in series may look big, but it is still just 700ma, and you will be drawing more from the batteries with each vape. People with a mod that says "lasts me 2 or 3 days before having to recharge"
don't vape like me. Sorry, but that sounds like some of that hype stuff.
The longer battery life requirement is easy to address. Anything lasts longer than a stock, regular sized Joye 510 battery.
JJ recommended a Kanger style mega battery adapted to the 510.
This is a "3.7 volt OUTPUT" battery and has about twice the life of the little 510 battery. I don't have any but agree with JJ's point.
It sounds like you have "frustration" working against your "success" with e-cigs. If you are having a lot of trouble (I did at first) then transition from smoking to vaping. I had to have a little cigar first thing in the morning, and at least one one the trip home from work for a couple of weeks. Until you can relax while vaping, taking in some breaths between vapes to allow the NIC into your system you will not feel satisfied. You will feel like vaping two at a time. I don't think most people relax and let the NIC in the juice take affect.
Sorry, but I DO NOT think supplemental Nicotine (additional tobacco) is advisable at the same time you are vaping. That might be a little risky to the heart.
Keep Trying,
Rocket.
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02-13-2010, 01:39 AM
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#29 | | Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Hawaii
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| Aloha Rocketman
You make a great point and I do agree, I have the 510 mega battery is that the same as as the Kanger style battery? I just burt out my 2nd atty and we only have the 2 my wife are using. When things go wrong they go really wrong. My email is if you have any other ? that can help. I don't really need a 5V just something a little better,
thank you
update. atty back in action, after good clean, woohoo
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02-13-2010, 01:46 AM
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Originally Posted by KingToker  Aloha Rocketman
You make a great point and I do agree, I have the 510 mega battery is that the same as as the Kanger style battery? I just burnt out my 2nd atty and we only have the 2 my wife are using. When things go wrong they go really wrong. My email is (deleted from original post) if you have any other ? that can help. I don't really need a 5V just something a little better,
thank you | No The 510 Mega batteries I have still only put out 3.1 volts. The Kanger puts out 3.7 volts. It WILL heat the 510 atty better than the 510 Mega.
If you are burning out 510 attys, I would be a cautious about going up in volts. I would suggest a little more experience before hitting the mods.
oh and a little ,
ummmmmm puffff, ummmmmm pufffff
never hurts.
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02-13-2010, 02:00 AM
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#31 | | Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Hawaii
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| Those attys lasted me almost 2 month, I am not as experience as you, but I have done my researched, and am ready to move up, not all the way up, but just up.
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| OK, let's see what we can do. If you want to try a Trailer Park, The bottom rung on the MOD ladder, you need to get a couple of 18650 protected Li-ion batteries, a charger, and some more 510 atty's on order. I'll PM the terms.
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02-13-2010, 04:13 AM
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#33 | | Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: St. Louis
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| wow, i'm learning so much.
these long hours reading the forums make me feel like I just graduated from trade school. I wish someone *hint hint* could make a primer "ecig electronic's for dummys" to help people understand what kind of simple yet capable device they hold in their hands and how they work.
Just because I know all this new info, I have helped others troubleshoot problem bats and atts to save them money on replacements, or make sure they know what caused it so it doesn't happen again. Most of my parts with defects still work, they just need a little special care or trick to make them fully functional. I was always the kid that took everything apart in the house that stopped working and made sure it would never work again, in the name of finding out what made it tick.
thanks for the expert advice everyone, and I sadly agree, tarkus. | |
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#34 | | TO SERVE AND PROTECT :) Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Louisiana
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| There was a comment about a free shipping code for all-battery,com, but I can't find it now. Anybody remember where it was posted?
they have an 18650 charger for $10 (MAD is out of stock  ) Rechargeable Batteries & Battery Chargers - Universal Li-Ion Plug-in Charger for 18650 cells
and a pretty good price on 18650 protected cells.
Rocket
found it, whew, lot of posts
"anytime you buy from allbattery, use the code "tenergydeals" for free shipping" don't know if it's still valid.
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02-13-2010, 11:33 AM
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#37 | | Home of Vaper Research Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Leftern Mass
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Originally Posted by KingToker Aloha Rocketman
You make a great point and I do agree, I have the 510 mega battery is that the same as as the Kanger style battery? I just burt out my 2nd atty and we only have the 2 my wife are using. When things go wrong they go really wrong. My email is (deleted from original post) if you have any other ? that can help. I don't really need a 5V just something a little better,
thank you | Now I don't feel so alone...
But I'm whacking attys at 4.2V. You must be chain vaping like crazy, and getting the atty so hot you can't touch it!
How do I know? Um, I dunno....
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Originally Posted by Dwellsouth Oh, and the Camels helped you through that? | Yeah...even though I am vaping 36mG I needed something else...I smoked one there and two on the way home. That was Thurs at 5PM, and I still have 11 left. About 3 a day.
I sure could have used one yesterday! I got passed through to tech support in the Philippines instead of Florida and had to fight with the guy for 2.5 HOURS to get the parts sent! I resisted buying another pack of cigs, though and just took the atty off battery power and put it on the Atty Smasher.
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02-13-2010, 03:07 PM
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#39 | | Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: St. Louis
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| are you a chain vaper Hachiroku?
My girlfriend still smokes 3-4 cigs a day, cause she cant vape constantly at work like I can. She works in the toy department at walmart and thinks her boss or kids' moms will freak out. This means on her 15 min break, the vape alone wont give her enough nic to make it another 2 hours or so until her next break. I prob couldn't do it either honestly. She used to smoke 2 on her breaks so, It must be helping a little. She just wishes she can completely kick the analogs. | |
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02-13-2010, 04:08 PM
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#40 | | Dismembered Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: USA
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Originally Posted by bigslick83 are you a chain vaper Hachiroku?
My girlfriend still smokes 3-4 cigs a day, cause she cant vape constantly at work like I can. She works in the toy department at walmart and thinks her boss or kids' moms will freak out. This means on her 15 min break, the vape alone wont give her enough nic to make it another 2 hours or so until her next break. I prob couldn't do it either honestly. She used to smoke 2 on her breaks so, It must be helping a little. She just wishes she can completely kick the analogs. | Well 3-4 cigs a day is nothing, hardly something to be concerned about. But as far as vaping at WalMart seems odd that they would object to a product they sell and promote as safe. Eliminates the danger of first or second hand smoke Walmart.com: Smokeless Solutions Starter Kit: Medicine Cabinet | |
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02-13-2010, 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by JohnnyJames | I hadn't seen that, so dam cool, now Walmart (Largest China outlet in the US),
absolutely fantastic. I bet if an employee smoked there product it would be OK, except maybe in the Toy department, hard sell there.
Truth in advertising down the tubes again, looks like a 901 cart lasts as long as a pack of cigarettes. Yeah, if you keep refilling it with juice.
Walmarts.com, Nice that you are carrying this, but bet the return rate is going to be sky high.
Rocket
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#42 | | Home of Vaper Research Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Leftern Mass
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Originally Posted by bigslick83 are you a chain vaper Hachiroku?
My girlfriend still smokes 3-4 cigs a day, cause she cant vape constantly at work like I can. She works in the toy department at walmart and thinks her boss or kids' moms will freak out. This means on her 15 min break, the vape alone wont give her enough nic to make it another 2 hours or so until her next break. I prob couldn't do it either honestly. She used to smoke 2 on her breaks so, It must be helping a little. She just wishes she can completely kick the analogs. | No, the only time I vape is when I'm awake...
Funny thing is, if I'm driving, I'm vaping (seen the commercial about smoking while driving?)
But, I can go HOURS without puffing, something I could NOT do on cigs!
I don't get it, unless it's the 36mG Vt Vapor I use...
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| All the HV mod stuff really piqued my interest in the subject, so naturally my first instinct is to try the DIY method... yea right, but my honey-do list is prohibitive to say the least. Then I thought I'd beg for one-- no not really, I have a job... so yep, decided to pay for one about 10 minutes ago & this is what I'm waiting for now:
The High Voltage Prodigy V2
COMPONENTS:
Base Kit:
1 x Stainless Steel Battery Housing (Machined Tube/Switch/End Cap/Spring)
1 x Adapter (510 - 801 - Ace/901)
1 x Product Manual (Print/PDF/CD)
Full Kit:
1 x Stainless Steel Battery Housing (Machined Tube/Switch/End Cap/Spring)
1 x Stainless Steel Adapter (510 - 801 - Ace/901)
1 x Atomizer (To Fit The Above Adapter)
4 x RCR123a Lith-Ion LifePo4 Batteries (Rated at 3.0v - 750mAh)
1 x Charger
1 x Product Manual (Print/PDF/CD)
WARRANTY: Limited Life Time Warranty -- Cross Threading is not Warrantied.
Prodigy Breakdown:
* Push Button Mechanical Switch
* Designed to use (2) RCR123a Batteries. Voltage under load is roughly 4.5v - 5.25v
* Completely sealed design. Dripping Friendly.
* All parts (Minus Atomizers/Battery) built from scratch utilizing Stainless Steel/Aluminum/Copper/and Delrin Plastic.
I bought the FULL kit, just under $110~ shipped. Can't wait for the atty frying fun to begin!
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02-13-2010, 09:56 PM
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#44 | | Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: USA-Portland CT
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| I use the tornado by TW.. The batts last around 6 to 8 hours.. And its a 510 atty which make big clouds of vaper.. It is the best i have ever used.. And I have lots.... | |
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02-14-2010, 04:55 AM
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#45 | | Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: St. Louis
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| wow! i cant wait to tell her they sell them in her own store! she did cut down from a pack a day, so i'm proud of her. i Have sold 3 kits to employees at her work a few weeks ago lol.
how frequent do you vape h3vaper? how much did you smoke before? just tryin to figure out why tornado bats last so much longer than 510s. are they megas?
My dad will go 2-3 hours between cigs at home, but chain smokes while driving. he tried a disposable ecig for a week and kicked both habbits for about 2 months so far. still smokes when drinking tho. i think about how he puffed away in the car everytime i see those commercials. | |
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#46 | | TO SERVE AND PROTECT :) Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Louisiana
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| TW lists the Tornado bat as 650mah. A mega 510 is 280, and the regular is 180.
Does anyone know if it is a 3.6/3.0 RCR2 type of battery.
It can use the regular 510 charger with an extension.
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#47 | | Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: St. Louis
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| That is cool. I thought the tornado was just a rebadged 510 or something.
If you look tho, it has a cone adaptor that increases the diamater considerably for that big honkin bat to fit on. BRILLIANT! LETS VAPE IT!
If the shorties are 1-3 hrs, the megas 3-5 hrs, and these are 6-8, they are jumbo bats.
How do they feel in your hand? clunky and heavy? or solid and sleek? is the atty compatable to a 501? sorry for the questions, but some of my peeps want a long lasting bat w/o going the mod or mega route. This looks nice and discreet. for thos people who are into that sort of thing.
nvm about compatablity, it says they include a titan (510) adapter. (the cone i guess?) also looks like you need a charging adaptor. any idea how long it takes to fully charge this puppy?
if you have a 510, and don't want to spend the $80, it looks like one can be purchased for $23 + $4 charging adaptor + $6 cone = $33, or a double bat upgrade for $56. The reason I ask on the charge time, is I wonder if you would run down a reg 510 bat before this one completed charging. Any idea how many Volts these things run?
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#48 | | Dismembered Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: USA
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Originally Posted by bigslick83 That is cool. I thought the tornado was just a rebadged 510 or something.
If you look tho, it has a cone adaptor that increases the diamater considerably for that big honkin bat to fit on. BRILLIANT! LETS VAPE IT!
If the shorties are 1-3 hrs, the megas 3-5 hrs, and these are 6-8, they are jumbo bats.
How do they feel in your hand? clunky and heavy? or solid and sleek? is the atty compatable to a 501? sorry for the questions, but some of my peeps want a long lasting bat w/o going the mod or mega route. This looks nice and discreet. for thos people who are into that sort of thing.
nvm about compatablity, it says they include a titan (510) adapter. (the cone i guess?) also looks like you need a charging adaptor. any idea how long it takes to fully charge this puppy?
if you have a 510, and don't want to spend the $80, it looks like one can be purchased for $23 + $4 charging adaptor + $6 cone = $33, or a double bat upgrade for $56. The reason I ask on the charge time, is I wonder if you would run down a reg 510 bat before this one completed charging. Any idea how many Volts these things run?
sorry again for all the ?s, feel free to answer if you dare. | The Janty eGo and clone TW Tornado are made by Joye. Here's some 2.5 ohm loaded volts. 
Don't know the exact maker but this is the type/model they use. Li-lon Cylindrical Battery(130450 650mAh 3.7V) 130450 lithium ion battery CN;GUA | |
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#49 | | Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: St. Louis
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| nice. I think salibo uses joye bats too. I ripped apart a dse901 from healthcabin and it said JOYE in the middle of a bunch of numbers on it. Couldn't be a coincedence could it?
Anyway back on topic, how would you describe the draw and weight compared to a normal "shorty" bat, and is that button harder to push than the rubber ones? How much do you get one of those meters, or comparable cheap version that can measure resistance and volts?
again sorry for the questions, I hate spending all my profits on new toys to test. (really I love it, but can not afford to lol) | |
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Originally Posted by bigslick83 are you a chain vaper Hachiroku?
My girlfriend still smokes 3-4 cigs a day, cause she cant vape constantly at work like I can. She works in the toy department at walmart and thinks her boss or kids' moms will freak out. This means on her 15 min break, the vape alone wont give her enough nic to make it another 2 hours or so until her next break. I prob couldn't do it either honestly. She used to smoke 2 on her breaks so, It must be helping a little. She just wishes she can completely kick the analogs. | Looks like there's an Equate brand nicotine gum in 4mg tho I've never tried that. I'm going to get some as backup since I really dislike the smell of cigs nowadays! There are throat lozenges too.
I took 1 puff off a cig Sat. night at our vaping party (LoL 4 of us vaping!) and all I could taste were chemicals - maybe I'd liken it to burnt plastic vapor. 30 minutes later I took another puff just to verify how nasty the 1st was and yep, still tasted like burnt plastic.
Good thing-OM bought a new truck and swears on his life no smoking in it! He definitely was in ecig gear panic mode preparing for his 1+ hour drive to work! He's got his passthru, chargers, nic juice.
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