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02-13-2012, 09:01 PM
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#1 | | Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Houston, TX
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| Ok so I picked up some royal smokers ce2 ultimate clearomizers (v6). I filled them up following the included instructions and let them sit for 10-15 minutes to wick. I take a few puffs and start to get a bit of a burnt taste. I then look into the top and see that the wicking has turned a little black under the coil's. So I then try and do dry puffs to wick the juice and then light it up, that seems to work for a few puffs then it goes back to a burnt taste, and the string gets a little more black.
I've managed to do this with three so far......
Not sure what I am doing wrong..... Please help. |
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02-13-2012, 09:55 PM
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#2 | | Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Florida
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| I'm sure Steam can help as I believe these are his go-to carts, but I'm not sure there's really a "right" way for these things to work.
Try dripping a couple of drops directly onto the coil. After that, you may need to tip it upside down every 3-4 puffs to prime the coil. Wicking issues are very common with Ce2's... good luck! |
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02-13-2012, 11:02 PM
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#3 | | Vapezilla Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Heaven
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| Sorry I don't use those as I had poor luck with them when they first came out way back when. Didn't seem to agree with my vaping habits. I do believe creote46 uses them and could probably help you out with some good info. Maybe he will stop by here or you can send him a PM. He is very nice and helpful. |
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02-13-2012, 11:20 PM
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#4 | | Why So Serious ? Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Almost Heaven WV
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| Bills is correct, when you fill a new one up, always put a couple of drops right on the coil before your first vape to start the wicking and avoid burning the wick right off the bat. And like he said, tip it every once in awhile to assure liquid is soaking the upper parts of the wick closest to the ceramic cup.
Sometimes the silicone cover over the cup is too tight and will not allow proper wicking, some people loosen it up a little or actually re-notch it around the wick to provide better wicking.
This also might help: http://zombiespvs.wordpress.com/2012...-best-results/
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02-13-2012, 11:28 PM
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#5 | | Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: West Texas/New Mexico
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| The filler plug with the needle holes is probably pressed down to tight against the cup with the coil or rotated from alignment with the coil.
There are notches in the coil cup where the wick comes out,and there are notches on the underside of the filler plug that should be directly over the wick. I usually just pull that filler plug and put in the top plug all the way down to the cup,just don't press it down tightly, the wick needs to be loose to wick the juice up out of the carto.
pre wetting the coil is a good idea.
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02-13-2012, 11:34 PM
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#6 | | Darth Vaper Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Leftern Mass
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Originally Posted by House3 Ok so I picked up some royal smokers ce2 ultimate clearomizers (v6). I filled them up following the included instructions and let them sit for 10-15 minutes to wick. I take a few puffs and start to get a bit of a burnt taste. I then look into the top and see that the wicking has turned a little black under the coil's. So I then try and do dry puffs to wick the juice and then light it up, that seems to work for a few puffs then it goes back to a burnt taste, and the string gets a little more black.
I've managed to do this with three so far......
Not sure what I am doing wrong..... Please help. | Like others have said, drip a couple drops right onto the wick/coil at the top of the carto. Also, I find letting them sit for at LEAST 5 minutes lets the juice wick through enough to saturate it. I sometimes let them sit for 20-30 minutes before firing it up the first time.
Also, what resistance in ohms are you using, and at what voltage? I find the 3 ohm ones work well with a standard "big" battery (3.7-4.2V unloaded) but the 2.5 ohm ones don't like much above 3.5V. If I use one with a device set to 3.4V they tend to go for a long time without getting that burnt taste. Using a 2.5 >3.7V makes them taste horrible.
And, uh, WHERE did you get them? They're drying up!
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02-13-2012, 11:47 PM
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#7 | | Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Houston, TX
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| I should have put more info.
I am using the Joyetech ego-t battery and they are 2.6-2.8 ohm. I haven't tested them with my meter yet because I am too lazy to go to my garage atm. Just got back on dry land.
I will check with the seals to make sure they are not tight and try again. I'll post an update after I see how that goes. |
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02-14-2012, 12:00 AM
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#8 | | Darth Vaper Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Leftern Mass
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Originally Posted by House3 I should have put more info.
I am using the Joyetech ego-t battery and they are 2.6-2.8 ohm. I haven't tested them with my meter yet because I am too lazy to go to my garage atm. Just got back on dry land.
I will check with the seals to make sure they are not tight and try again. I'll post an update after I see how that goes. | That should be OK. My advice is to fill one and let it sit; take a shower, read the paper, do something where you won't be vaping for a good 15 mins minimum and then fire it up!
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02-14-2012, 12:07 AM
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#9 | | Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Houston, TX
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| Ok I pulled the inner seal all the way out and placed the top cap in loosely. Now to wait... |
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02-14-2012, 12:22 AM
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#10 | | Darth Vaper Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Leftern Mass
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Originally Posted by House3 Ok I pulled the inner seal all the way out and placed the top cap in loosely. Now to wait... | Ya know, I need to learn to READ...like where you said "I let them sit 10-15 minutes to wick"....
Duh.
I did have two boxes (out of about 8) that no matter HOW long you let them sit got a burnt taste quickly. Actually, the steel ones are better on taste, but I like to see how they are filling when I put juice in them.
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02-14-2012, 01:28 AM
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#11 | | Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Houston, TX
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Originally Posted by Steampunk Ya know, I need to learn to READ...like where you said "I let them sit 10-15 minutes to wick"....
Duh.
I did have two boxes (out of about 8) that no matter HOW long you let them sit got a burnt taste quickly. Actually, the steel ones are better on taste, but I like to see how they are filling when I put juice in them. | LOL steam.
So after removing the seal completely and letting it sit to wick,(new ce2) it is working really well. I am getting some really nice flavor from this. Now I just wish it held more juice. It only holds about 0.8ml... But I can work with that.
Thanks for all of your help guys! |
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02-14-2012, 11:41 AM
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#12 | | Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Southern California
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| I use CE2's as well and I like the clean flavor they provide. Its also easier to clean. I notch the silicone cup so its easy to put back when I drip fill it.
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T-bob,This is just me but I pull all plugs/gaskets on the CE2s and fill straight from the juice bottle. Then I put the top"mouthpiece" in and push it down to the ceramic cup. There should be room left to put in a drip tip. From then on you can just pull the drip tip and the mouthpiece plug(a bent paper clip works) and fill from the bottle,no syringe needed. When vaping if you get a wicking problem(dry or burnt taste) just tip the carto upside down for a second and it will rewet the wick at the coil and good vaping may resume. You can hold it inverted for 10 secs. without any leaking.
CE2s have the best taste of all cartos for me.
| BTW, I use the steel CE2's and they are great. You can tell they are full by looking down the sides of the ceramic cup and see the juice.
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02-14-2012, 12:05 PM
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#13 | | Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: NY, USA
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| I don't think the size of the ce2 matters, either. I got the big 5ml ce2 tank thinking that would fix it and I still have to let it sit a good 15 mins before using. THEN it only gives 2 or 3 good draws before it wants to be tilted and swirled around. Finicky things, but yes, when it is performing, a much better taste than cartos. Did you get yours working for you? |
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02-14-2012, 01:04 PM
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#14 | | Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Southern California
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Originally Posted by Paislia I don't think the size of the ce2 matters, either. I got the big 5ml ce2 tank thinking that would fix it and I still have to let it sit a good 15 mins before using. THEN it only gives 2 or 3 good draws before it wants to be tilted and swirled around. Finicky things, but yes, when it is performing, a much better taste than cartos. Did you get yours working for you? | Yes CE2's can be finicky. I think removing the silicone cup or moving it upward a little (not to choke the wick) or bigger notches help the wicking.
The issue I have now using the CE2 (mega's 1.8ml) with the Buzz Pro, the juice gets used up quickly!
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02-14-2012, 01:05 PM
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#15 | | Mega Old-Fart Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Maryland
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| I'm a relative noob to all this and am still tryin' to figure out the diff between CE2, 3, 4 etc!, so for now I call all of them either top-feed or bottom-feed 'clearomizers'. (Somebody want to school me?)
But the plug being too far down & rotated was the problem with the first top feed one I tried. It took me a while to figure out and may have ruined my first one by getting too burned. I flushed it with vodka and it got better (once I repositioned the plug) but it either needs a second go or it may just be trash. I repositioned the plug on the next one and it works great.
I tried a couple of bottom feeds first, one a 510 and another an 808D. The 808 died a bit early by going open circuit, but worked very well. The 510 worked ok but tended to leak into the battery end, and then I cracked it by having it in my jeans pocket and squatting down for something. I may try a couple more though.
Right now I'm leaning toward the top feed though because the tips on mine also have a plug that covers the slots on the other plug and I don't worry about getting a mouthful of juice if I lay it on it's side. The need to reposition the coil-cover/fill plug to align the slots as well as pulling the thing up a bit is my only 'care point'. I bent the tip of a dressmakers pin (with a little ball head) just enough to get it down the slots and hook it to pull & rotate the plug. That also helps get a better seal with the tip plug. (Pulling the bottom one up and then using the tip to push it down). The top feed 510's so far haven't leaked so they're keepers.
I just found some top feeds for my 808 so I'm going to give them a go, as well as some more bottom feed 808's because they didn't seem to leak and didn't seem as 'hot' as the top feeds.
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02-14-2012, 01:20 PM
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#16 | | Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Southern California
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Originally Posted by JD4x4 I'm a relative noob to all this and am still tryin' to figure out the diff between CE2, 3, 4 etc!, so for now I call all of them either top-feed or bottom-feed 'clearomizers'. (Somebody want to school me?)
But the plug being too far down & rotated was the problem with the first top feed one I tried. It took me a while to figure out and may have ruined my first one by getting too burned. I flushed it with vodka and it got better (once I repositioned the plug) but it either needs a second go or it may just be trash. I repositioned the plug on the next one and it works great.
I tried a couple of bottom feeds first, one a 510 and another an 808D. The 808 died a bit early by going open circuit, but worked very well. The 510 worked ok but tended to leak into the battery end, and then I cracked it by having it in my jeans pocket and squatting down for something. I may try a couple more though.
Right now I'm leaning toward the top feed though because the tips on mine also have a plug that covers the slots on the other plug and I don't worry about getting a mouthful of juice if I lay it on it's side. The need to reposition the coil-cover/fill plug to align the slots as well as pulling the thing up a bit is my only 'care point'. I bent the tip of a dressmakers pin (with a little ball head) just enough to get it down the slots and hook it to pull & rotate the plug. That also helps get a better seal with the tip plug. (Pulling the bottom one up and then using the tip to push it down). The top feed 510's so far haven't leaked so they're keepers.
I just found some top feeds for my 808 so I'm going to give them a go, as well as some more bottom feed 808's because they didn't seem to leak and didn't seem as 'hot' as the top feeds. | First of all welcome JD4X4! You'll get alot of info from this eccentric site! I use 808 steel CE2's from LeCig and they perform well. I do increase the notch size on the silicone cup to help with the wicking. I then use both the silicone cup cover and the thin silicone ring to prevent leaking.
To refill, I pull out the drip tip and both silicone cup/cover with a bent paper clip and drip straight from the bottle.
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02-14-2012, 01:51 PM
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#17 | | Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Houston, TX
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| I used the method of just removing the seal completely then shoving the top cap down until it makes contact with the ceramic cup. It leaves plenty of room for wicking. I haven't had any leaked through the battery but I left it on its side while I slept and noticed it pooled a little on top of the cap I shoved in there.
They do provide a very clean vape but. Have noticed they seem to use a bit more juice then the cartos. Not sure if I am noticing due to the fact I can see the juice or if it actually is. I will try and calculate how much juice I go through to test the theory. |
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02-14-2012, 01:59 PM
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#18 | | Couldnt take it anymore Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Mod impersonation carries a stiff penalty YKWYA
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| Nicotime used to lay another wick piece over the coil and open up the slots in the plug to increase wicking too..
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02-14-2012, 10:15 PM
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#19 | | Darth Vaper Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Leftern Mass
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Originally Posted by House3 LOL steam.
So after removing the seal completely and letting it sit to wick,(new ce2) it is working really well. I am getting some really nice flavor from this. Now I just wish it held more juice. It only holds about 0.8ml... But I can work with that.
Thanks for all of your help guys! | They make an XL that holds about double, but I do not like them. They gum up way too rapidly. I am using one I opened the day before yesterday and it's already gumming up badly, whereas the shorter ones go for a week or more before getting weak. Also, the XLs seem to be a bit weaker at the joint at the bottom and come apart a lot more readily.
I just ordered some 'regular' 2.5 ohms from Totally Wicked. About $1 more than anywhere else, but no one else HAS them!
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02-14-2012, 10:17 PM
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#20 | | Darth Vaper Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Leftern Mass
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Originally Posted by tibob1 Yes CE2's can be finicky. I think removing the silicone cup or moving it upward a little (not to choke the wick) or bigger notches help the wicking.
The issue I have now using the CE2 (mega's 1.8ml) with the Buzz Pro, the juice gets used up quickly! | On poor performing ones I have taken my "filling tool" and increased the size of the notches...and then wind up with a mouth full of juice...
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02-14-2012, 10:48 PM
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#21 | | Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: West Texas/New Mexico
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| Steam,I think goodprophets and value vapor have CE2s don't know about length.
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02-14-2012, 10:49 PM
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#22 | | Darth Vaper Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Leftern Mass
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Originally Posted by 40bikes Steam,I think goodprophets and value vapor have CE2s don't know about length. | Thanks for the heads up!
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02-14-2012, 11:44 PM
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#23 | | Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Southern California
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Originally Posted by Steampunk On poor performing ones I have taken my "filling tool" and increased the size of the notches...and then wind up with a mouth full of juice...  | The steel mega CE2's from LeCig are working fine with the bigger notches haven't had a mouthful of juice  yet, although you can't see how far your juice has gone down. The other thing with CE2's is the amount of condensation and gurgling, I kinda live with it coz they give a clean vape.
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02-15-2012, 03:32 PM
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#24 | | I like it hot and wet! Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Tonganoxie, KS
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| The CE2's are top feed, the CE3 & 4's are bottom feed. I've tried lots of different cartomizers, but I just keep going back to the CE2's for the best taste and best life. I have been using the "fluxomizer" brand the last few months, they use a translucent plastic as opposed to a transparent one, they call it unbreakable. You can't see the fluid level as well, but you can see it, and I haven't had a tube break yet on these.
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02-15-2012, 10:04 PM
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#25 | | Darth Vaper Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Leftern Mass
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| I've tried CE2s, CE3s and Joye Cartomizers. The CE2 is a top coil and can have wicking probs, but taste good and last for a week or more. THe CE3s are a bottom coil, and you would think would work better but the flavor is lacking, and they last about a week. The Joyes are flavorwise my favorites, but after only 2-3 days start gumming up and performing poorly. WHen they work well, they work GOOD.
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