ellenc1009

I don't know what model I have, and the box doesn't give any info, obviously intending for me to buy refill cartridges from their website, which I don't really want to do. It is an automatic, 3 piece, rechargable "21st Century Smoke" brand that I bought at a gas station. It's a bit fatter than a normal cigarette.
Does anyone know what's compatible with this type?

I'm super new to this. No idea.

quasimod

Post some pics, someone may know what it is. What I could Google up looks like an RN-4081 to me. Pretty standard gas station fare.

You can just refill the cartridges you have with liquid from any supplier. The liquid is relatively cheap, compared to buying pre-filled cartridges. You can buy 2 to 4 weeks worth of liquid for around $15 to $20 (depends on how much you use and where you get it). Those 4081 cartridges have teeny-tiny little reservoirs, that don't hold a lot of liquid. If you are a heavy smoker, then refilling and swapping them out is going to be an annoyingly frequent PITA.

The batteries are very small and low-capacity, so they will frequently need to be swapped out and recharged. You can use an adapter to fit your atomizer onto a larger battery similar to the one that came with the unit. You can also adapt your atomizer to fit onto a "big battery mod" that you can buy or make yourself.

The atomizer is a solid little workhorse, and should last a good long time. Instead of filling cartridges, you can just "dip". That's where you use an empty cartridge with the reservoir removed, and just pull that off long enough to dip the "bridge" (the exposed metal arch of the atomizer) into some liquid, replace the empty cartridge, and vape. Some people like to use a contact lens case for that, you can use whatever you like.

If you don't like it, it's probably going to be easier (and cheaper in the long run) to just cut your losses and get another type of starter kit. The 510 type is popular (it's what I use). There are a lot of different types. Before you spend more money, do some reading and check out all of your options.

EDIT:
Also, tell us what you think of the unit you have now. That will help us come up with suitable recommendations. For example, if you are happy with how long your batteries last between charges, there isn't any need to get bigger batteries. That sort of thing.

40bikes

Welcome to the neighbor hood,Ellen.
Sorry to say there are a lot of brands and types of electronic cigarettes and one of the things that varies is the cartridge, another is the threading on the battery/atomiser another is the size of thecigarette itself.
Is the thread on the battery male or female?
Does the"filter" have a little cartridge inside if it? (you can push the cartridge out by pushing from the mouthpiece with a paper clip straighteded out)
You have to get specific measurements on the diameter and length of the battery and overall length to help narrow the search.
If the batt. threads are female and the diameter of the cigarette body is 9.2mm the type is probably a 4081 and one of our members sells them at his store (LeCig.com) Mike can help you. The cartridges are refillable by the way mike sells e-liquid(juice) as well.Also try one of our threads above that addresses PV(personal vaporiser) types. Hit forums in the header.
Good luck vaping,Ellen, let us know if we can help. bikes

Gregger

From the picture on Century 21 site I would say it is compatible with DSE103 (looks like a DSE103 atomizer),RN4081 & NPRO threads.I looked on Google & I cannot find anything to confirm this.I saw a couple of articles that were trying to use RN4081 compatibles on the disposable & it didn't work.The disposable however,probly has different size & thread.I believe the 103 cart or RN4081 cartomizer will work.The NPRO cart won't fit the 103 atomizer but the cartomizer would work.I am basing this on the picture though & cannot find anything to confirm.I PM ed you with instructions for some free samples from me if you would like to try.

ellenc1009

I have no idea about my thread having a vagina, I literally JUST bought it and I don't know any stuffaroo like that. I'ma guess it has something to do with the direction I screw the atomizer in? Hell, I dunno.

But in respose to the how do I like it, I don't think it has near enough vapor or flavor or throat hit. Or anything really.. Assuming I'm using it correctly, it's probably just due to the fact that it was a cheap thing. There doesn't appear to be a "cartridge," just some silly nasty looking fuzzy cotton wad that sticks to the atomizer or vaporizer or whatever that metal heating middle piece is..

I said I'm new! haha. Ya gotta give me the run down on the lingo.
But...simply put, as far as I can tell, all my cigarette consists of is
1) brown "filter" end, inside of it is..
2) fuzzy nicotine soaked thing
3)the metal piece in the middle.
4) the battery

Another thing I should say is I do not think I should have gone through 3 cartridges(ends) in a night, when they're supposedly equal to 10-20ish real cigs.

ellenc1009

haha isn't century 21 a bank? This one is called "21st century smoke"

Buy 21st Century Electronic Cigarettes Now! - CB Distributors, Inc.

HiRezL

Male means threads on the outside, female is threads on the inside. The "male" part enters the "female" part, get it?

Unfortunately, you will find Gas Station Vendors, Mall Kiosks, & Chinese websites will almost uniformly over-estimate the puff-count . . . almost to the point where you could be justified in calling them liars. The truth is, how long a cart lasts is a highly subjective thing, and it will vary by how often you vape, how deeply you inhale, how much juice the cart holds, how hot the atomizer is . . . it's pretty pointless to say an e-cig is equivalent to x number of cigarettes. You just have to try the different technologies and see what works for you.

For me, I use a big 510 battery, like an ego, and I use clearomizers, AKA see-through CE2 cartomizers, in XL, which hold about 2 ml of juice, and with my vaping patterns, the batt and cart will last me maybe a day and a half. I'm actually guessing at the duration, because I carry three or four of them with me at any time, so I am not vaping on just one for a day or day and a half.
2 reasons for multiple e-cigs (or PV's - Personal Vaporizers as we like to call them to avoid the negative cigarette connotation):
1. is because with PV's, you can (and most do) vape a wide variety of flavors, not just tobacco, but fruity flavors, chocolate, almost anything you can think of. I saw a vendor offering Pizza flavored e-juice this week.
2. You do not want to have only 1 PV with you when a battery goes dead, that's the quickest way back to smoking tobacco.

Hope this helps, and welcome to the forum.

Pleidius

looks just like the thing Direct E-cig sells, the description sounds like it too. Best advice I can give you is try one of the 'real' one. My only experience is with the Direct E-cig piece of c***, and my eGo-T. The eGo is so far beyond the first as to be beyond comparison. People here will be glad to make recommendations, I know the Joye 510 is well thoought of, as are several others. The key to making it afordable is refillability (is that a word?) more than initial cost

I'm biased, I think everyone should start with the eGo-t, I love mine.

ellenc1009

well guess that makes my battery a female.

Pleidius

female threads on the inside, male threads on the outside

bolts are male, nuts are female, washers . . . we wont talk about washers

ellenc1009

thanks errybody

40bikes

Ellen, good prophets.com offers cartomisers which combine the cartridge(Filter) with an atomiser(the silver part you described) to make your PV 2pcs. rather than 3.
Talk to Greg first he may be able to help. Whatever you decide on we'll try to walk you through getting the most out of it.

ellenc1009

k cool.
Yeah I heard of the cartomizers.
So whats up with the little cottony wad in the end piece? Do the other ones have that? and if i buy liquid, i dribble it on that fuzzy thing or on the metal upside down v-shaped piece of the atomizer...

Steampunk

Dang! I HATE when people get all technical!
The "filter thing", combined with the fuzz is a cartridge. They are usually sold together. You can drip extra juice onto the fuzz for refilling, bypassing the expensive cartridges.

The "metal piece in the middle" is the atomizer. It heats up and vaporizes the juice to make the steam.

The battery...you get an "A".

Yeah, they're SUPPOSED to be 10-20 ciggies. Wishful thinking. More like 2-4 at best.

One thing I like about these is they make the juice taste really good. Not a lot of vapor or throat hit, but the flavor comes through.

And I just saw the post above this one. You fill the fuzz with juice, and you can also drip right on to the mesh. With this type I usually fill the little cup in the cartridge and drop a few drops onto the mesh.

ellenc1009

what "little cup" is that?

40bikes

Ellen, if you have a 4081 model, when you pull the"filter" off if you look inside there is a little white insert that has white polyfill (like pillow stuffing) that is where you add e-liquid. The cup should drop out if you whack the open end of the filter on the table or desk. You can also straighten a paper clip or use a toothpick to push it out from the closed end. Once it is out of the filter you can leave it out if you want to drip a couple of drops down the atomiser tube(this is called"direct dripping") or you can add about 5-6 drops into the polyfill and put the cup back in the filter(fuzzy side towards the atomiser;also called an "atty"). Good luck and keep asking questions, you can do this and it's a whole lot better than smoking.

Steampunk

The blue-green things in the photo are the actual cartridges. This is for a DSE model. That is where the filler is SUPPOSED to be, not stuck to the atomizer! (it happens). If you look into the brown filter tip, you might see a little cup in there.

ellenc1009

Okay I found it. I didn't think it was there at first. So is the preferred method "direct dripping" or putting it in the cup?

40bikes

Dealers choice. Direct dripping will give you about a cigarettes worth of vapor per drip(2 or 3 drops) less messy but you have to do it more often and it's a pain in dark restaurant or honky tonk. Filling the cartridge(cup) will give you 2 or 3 cigarettes worth of vapor and you can carry several with you if put the semi-clear silicone caps back on.
I've got a bunch of little cases to carry stuff around in, PM me and I can send you one if you'd like. 40bikes

Dhileas

Welcome Ellen! I'd recommend (strongly) against an "e-cig", but I am biased by my use of mods. The batteries in that little e-cig kit aren't going to last long per charge or in terms of total life span (number of recharges until they no longer recharge). I mean, to each their own, and I don't want to piss in anyone's corn flakes, but perhaps an upgrade to at least an eGo kit?

40bikes

Yeah, D we're just trying to get her through the "get acquainted with vaping" stage. If it takes we'll inundate her with options.

Steampunk

Yeah, what he said! I fill the cup, and then put a drop or two right on the metal mesh on the atomizer.

Dhileas

They don't have to fill the cups completely, but I don't approve of stuffing your... wait, what were we talking about?

ellenc1009

hahaha.

ellenc1009

Yeah, I just got this one out of whim; just saw it at the gas station for 40 and i was like, "eh, I'll try it" The one in the mall was 150ish or something super lame, and this was only 40, so it's good for starters.

But if I want it to actually replace real cigarettes, I'd definitely need a better one. Cuz this is nothing like a cigarette to me. Fun, but just different.