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Old 12-21-2011, 02:34 PM   #1
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WOW, this stuff is soooo good and it even smells good!

Have never tried RY4 until just now and I can see why so many people just love this flavor!

Mixed up a batch of 20mls of 30mg unflavored with 20 drops of RY4 and about 10mls extra PG to reduce the nic level a bit.....and the flavor on inhale is a very distinct SWEET, light caramel/vanilla flavor with no flavor on exhale.

Not bad....not bad at all.

Definitely one of my favorites now.
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So that is 20 drops of the flavoring to 30mls of nicliq. That's very strong flavoring: good taste from around 3% is surprising. Most recipes call for 5-15% of flavor.
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Old 12-21-2011, 03:25 PM   #3
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So that is 20 drops of the flavoring to 30mls of nicliq. That's very strong flavoring: good taste from around 3% is surprising. Most recipes call for 5-15% of flavor.
Right....

I didn't wanna over do it since I didn't know the concentration.

But yeah, it tastes really good!

I'm sure if I added 10 more drops it would have a fuller flavor, but its not bad at all just the way it is....
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I need to get some of that flavoring,thanks,Shek.
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Old 12-21-2011, 04:18 PM   #5
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I need to get some of that flavoring,thanks,Shek.
Their Menthol and Mint flavors are the same.

You only need a little bit to get really potent flavors.

The flue cured & the Marlb were the ones (on a previous order) where I had to use a lot to get good flavor, bout 20%.

Haven't tried the USA Mix yet, but I'm sure I won't need very much.

They may have changed their concentrations on some of their tobacco flavors as the 30ml bottles used to come in a jar.

Now they're in 30ml dropper bottles.
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Old 12-21-2011, 04:31 PM   #6
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If you read on HC's site that RY4 flavoring is not very concentrated, they recommend 20%-40% in your mix
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Old 12-21-2011, 04:42 PM   #7
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If you read on HC's site that RY4 flavoring is not very concentrated, they recommend 20%-40% in your mix
Well then they must have changed their formula cuz I'm getting great flavor just the way I explained how I mixed it.

Can't even imagine mixing 40%.....that would taste awful!
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Old 12-21-2011, 04:46 PM   #8
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Here's the quote from HC site, notice the BOLD print...

Unit:10ml/30ml/110ml
Shipping Weight:30g(10ml)/60g(30ml)/210g(110ml)


ONLY flavoring with No Nic.For professional users ONLY.
Flavors:Ry4/555 /Marl/Camel/Flue cured tobacco/Dunhill /Hilton

Usage: Use 20%~40% Flavoring in your e-juice recipe.

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Childproof PET bottles(10ml)/Childproof PE bottles(30ml)/ Non Childproof Sealing cover PET bottles(110ml)

Note: It is not condensed
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Old 12-21-2011, 04:56 PM   #9
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Here's the quote, notice the BOLD print...
I don't doubt what it says Pit, I'm just telling you what I know....geeez dude.
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No offense shek, I got some of the same RY4 with my order but haven't mixed it up yet, I was just surprised you were able to get good flavor according to your ratio compared to what they suggested on their site, that's all
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Old 12-21-2011, 05:14 PM   #11
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No offense shek, I got some of the same RY4 with my order but haven't mixed it up yet, I was just surprised you were able to get good flavor according to your ratio compared to what they suggested on their site, that's all
I know buddy, I'm not offended....

Just sayin' chill out, man, I believe you!

Try it the way I mixed it and see for yourself.

It is a light flavor, but it IS a very distinct sweet caramel/vanilla.

And if its not strong enough flavor for you, add more.

But I'm happy right now with this mix, it's really not bad, quite good actually!

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Old 12-21-2011, 05:18 PM   #12
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OH...and another thing.

I use 100% PG, so I'm sure that has a HUUUGE impact on the flavor!

VG has a tendency to kill flavor, sooooo??

Also take into account that I'm using brand new 808 LR Boge cartos...

Which have a warmer vape (to me anyway) than a 510 LR Boge carto.

Put a fresh 4.2V batt in my mini-3.7V mod and YUMMY, this is good.

I guesstimated the added 10mils of PG and didn't use a syringe, but I've mixed enough batches in my 30mil bottles to know where the 30mil mark is.

The 30mg unflavored I used a syringe, so the mix should be 30mils total.

20-22 drops and you should come out with the exact same flavor in a 30mil mix.

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I got some with my last order too- and havent gotten around to mixing any yet-
I honestly did not notice that it wasnt a concentrate and now Im a little pissed- I mean, yeah its a good price for flavoring but dayum! 40%!!!!!
Imma mix some right now-BRB with an opinion-Only because Im an RY4 hunter- I know EXACTLY what Im looking for- their premixed RY4 is good, but all PG- and I HATE their VG juice- OK-here goes-
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OK- Im back- Using MyFreedomsmokes 24mg 75/25 unflavored Nic juice-I made about 15ml-
20% (3ml) was flavorfull, but a little harsh-
I went with about 35%- about 5 ml to about 12 ml of juice-
ending up with 18mg 80/20 juice and very flavorful, but kind of 'raw'- Ill steep overnight and run er up again tomorrow-
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Old 12-21-2011, 07:29 PM   #15
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Flavor is dying off on my carto....this is weird.

So I added 10 more drops to the mix.

Will steep overnight, see what happens.
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Are you guys steeping together?
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Old 12-21-2011, 07:48 PM   #17
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i like wizs ry4, but the 555 better... sorry.. i know right, a cotton candy nuckel head all about tobaccos
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Old 12-21-2011, 07:50 PM   #18
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Are you guys steeping together?
LMAO...

Bikes, you're on Santa's naughty list for SURE!!
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Old 12-21-2011, 08:43 PM   #19
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OK- Im back- Using MyFreedomsmokes 24mg 75/25 unflavored Nic juice-I made about 15ml-
20% (3ml) was flavorfull, but a little harsh-
I went with about 35%- about 5 ml to about 12 ml of juice-
ending up with 18mg 80/20 juice and very flavorful, but kind of 'raw'- Ill steep overnight and run er up again tomorrow-
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Flavor is dying off on my carto....this is weird.

So I added 10 more drops to the mix.

Will steep overnight, see what happens.
I'll wait and see how your alls come out

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I'm gonna need a bigger bucket of coal
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Old 12-22-2011, 01:00 AM   #20
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Got coal Santa,Thanks. One of my bikes likes 94 Octane gas if the FAA will let you bring me some.
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...I was just surprised you were able to get good flavor according to your ratio compared to what they suggested on their site...
I've tried a few flavors that everyone loved, and I hated, but diluting it (the flavor, not the nic) produced something pretty nice. Especially the tobacco flavors. Now I try it with anything I don't like, ya never know.
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I've tried a few flavors that everyone loved, and I hated, but diluting it (the flavor, not the nic) produced something pretty nice. Especially the tobacco flavors. Now I try it with anything I don't like, ya never know.
Thanks for the back-up, Quasi.
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Thanks Shek.
I'm always on the lookout for RY4 flavors.

Yeah, I noticed right off the bat that HC was a severely diluted flavoring which means more questionable glycol (they seem to have a hard time differentiating between FDA safe propylene and deadly diethylene sometimes) added to the mix, but on your recommendation I'm willing to give it a shot... that and you're not in the hospital right now.

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Thanks Shek.
I'm always on the lookout for RY4 flavors.

Yeah, I noticed right off the bat that HC was a severely diluted flavoring which means more questionable glycol (they seem to have a hard time differentiating between FDA safe propylene and deadly diethylene sometimes) added to the mix, but on your recommendation I'm willing to give it a shot... that and you're not in the hospital right now.

Cheers.
YW Bikes & Wiz.

Trying the mix with the extra 10 drops, and WOW, this is good!

The flavor has mellowed a bit and my carto has been going almost non-stop since I mixed this batch of juice.

Probably vaped about 5 mls so far...

Cutting the nic helped a lot on the BUZZ factor.

Can't wait to try the USA Mix I bought too.....prolly not as good as the RY4, but I like tobacco flavors.
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YW Bikes & Wiz.

Trying the mix with the extra 10 drops, and WOW, this is good!

The flavor has mellowed a bit and my carto has been going almost non-stop since I mixed this batch of juice.

Probably vaped about 5 mls so far...

Cutting the nic helped a lot on the BUZZ factor.

Can't wait to try the USA Mix I bought too.....prolly not as good as the RY4, but I like tobacco flavors.
Thanks for steeping with me last night-lol- Im going to try it again now-
I wanted the USA mix but they were sold out!
OK for me 35% is the mark-pretty good-for my taste tho-Im going to add a little French Vanilla and leave it a bit-
Im stuck between BWB RY4 and ELP Liquid Gold right now...
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