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Old 07-23-2011, 03:58 AM   #1
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I am not the supplier (this was their original post excluding images on another forum that I copied) but this is an awesome deal that I thought I would share that I found yesterday, I hope that is ok I shared it here if not just let me know I mean no harm in posting it. Carolyn Original thread can be found here!!

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Old 07-23-2011, 12:50 PM   #2
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No problems in the supplier hype section

wow they got stuff in gallons too...gotta head over to HD and get one of those big orange buckets for mixing....now where did I leave those quarts of flavoring...LOL

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Can't beat the prices!! Shipping is horrible for anything over 120ml, but at his prices its still worth it!!

Quart flavoring? Wth! Lol
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Great pricing.
Interesting website...

If the claims are true, this could put every Chinese nic supplier out of business overnight.
Doing the math, it appears they've found a US lab willing to work for the same wages as the Chinese labs?
Somehow they're selling the finished product at half the cost that a US lab charges just for the raw materials?
I can't even get a US lab to do a partial USP for nic purity for under $1000, so I can't imagine how much their "random testing" is costing.

Call me skeptical..., but this one gives me a bad vibe.

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Old 07-23-2011, 10:07 PM   #5
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RTS Leasing, LLC sells everything. Over 100 businesses from Dog Toys to a used Motorcycle auction site.

Mr. Randy Slabey
says"Hello, Randy Slabey here. I thought I would tell you a little about my background. For about 25 years I worked for large engineering and construction companies in the electric power generation industry. I worked as a department manager, chief estimator, and senior project manager. I worked 27 months in Iraq as a contractor to the USA Government assisting in the electrical reconstruction. I returned to the USA in June of 2006 and I resigned from the large corporation I worked for in February of 2007. Basically, I wanted to go in business for myself and I bought a retail franchise that did not work out well. I ended up selling the franchise in January of 2008 for a substantial loss. I immediately decided to work full time as an affiliate and internet marketer starting in January 2008. The first six months was a huge learning curve and I did not start making any money until June of 2008. Since then my earnings average 5 figures per month and I have over 130 niche websites. For accounting and liability reasons I use a limited liability company named RTS Leasing LLC which I own 100% of. So if you see a website owned by RTS Leasing LLC it is me, Randy T. Slabey."

Randy Slabey
"I decided to start this particular site to help others that are trying to make money online. It is a tough business. Believe me! I There are a lot of people selling money making opportunities that are real garbage and do not work. Also, there are hundreds of software tools for sale online that do not work and techniques that are out of date.
I am a person of honor and integrity and I want to help others from getting scammed like I was. You can be sure any product, service or program I recommend on this website is legitimate.

Best regards,
Randy T. Slabey"


and
"I have over 135 niche websites where I sell various affiliate products on the internet. My primary website helps others learn how to make money online. I went from flat broke to earning over $10,000 per month in just 14 months."

and
"Welcome to Pistol Handgun Grips. My name is Randy and I am the administrator for this Pistol Handgun Grips Store. I hope our website will be helpful in your quest for finding 1911 pistol grips, exotic wood pistol grips and pistol grips for any of your handguns. We believe we offer bargain prices for first rate pistol grips. I you do not see the pistol grips you need in our navigation menu, please use our search box for the exact pistol grip you need."

Randy is probably a really nice guy and makes lots of money, but an EXPERT on Nicotine?
anyone know what LLC stands for?
The businesses give a home address in PA.
"ABOUT THE COMPANY
RTS Vapes is this website's name and is 100% owned by RTS Leasing, LLC which is a Limited Liability Company formed under the laws of the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania, USA in November, 2006."

I guess he has since moved from
Robesonia, Pennsylvania to North Carolina, per the other e-cig forum.

He and some of his friends actually go out and hand pick the Tobacco and drive it to the lab. Now that's hands on.

all the above is in the public domain.

EDIT: deleted reference to old house, Randy has moved to N.C., for a while
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Old 07-23-2011, 11:17 PM   #6
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Okaaay... so we've established that Randy is a professional internet marketer with a new niche site, and also that Rocket is a professional internet stalker.
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Old 07-23-2011, 11:42 PM   #7
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The people over at the "big" e-cig forum seem to be going crazy buying his North Carolina handpicked tobacco squeezins
I don't need any for a long time.
Sounds like you need to rent a pickup from Enterprise (or buy one of Randy's used trucks) drive up to Charlotte, and come back with 65 gallons of NIC juice
You guys remember my "twice as safe" comments in another thread?
I have another technique for safer e-juice.
Anything I buy goes into the fridge/freezer and is used on a FIFO basis. By the time I get to a bottle, any dead people would have been all over the news
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Old 07-24-2011, 12:24 AM   #8
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lol. I doubt Randy would be selling anything lethal.
At worst, he's probably just rebranding really cheap Chinese nic that is the same stuff we've been buying from other vendors.

Wow, I just read that other forum thread, and just... wow.
I'm a little shocked that an unbelievable claim with zero proof would be so readily accepted by a crowd that should know better.
It looks like Randy really is a professional marketer.

I wonder how many other vendors are kicking themselves over how easy it would have been to claim their nic was 100% USA and gotten away with it so easily?
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Old 07-24-2011, 12:34 AM   #9
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I have a feeling it is probably really U.S. Tobacco, reduced in the U.S.
This is harvest time, and I doubt you need to dry the leaves to extract.
Timing is perfect. Just what are the "lab" credentials and what are the actual tests being run. His registration with the FDA will probably take longer to process that this first run of tobacco.

Why is everybody so worried about Chinese e-juice anyway? They sell to the world and large U.S. vendors have toured the DeKang facilities and were impressed.

So, just how many gallons are you gonna buy?
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Sounds like you need to rent a pickup from Enterprise (or buy one of Randy's used trucks) drive up to Charlotte, and come back with 65 gallons of NIC juice
Funny thing is my wife's brother and his family just drove down this week for vacation, and they live just outside of Charlotte.
If only I had known about this a week ago!

I think I'm going to have to do some investigating on how much a North Carolina lab would charge for solvent extraction of 30 bushels of leaf in their "downtime" as Randy says... or if they would even do it at all.

...on second thought, that seems like a lot more work than slapping a "Made in America" label over a bottle of Chinese nic and doing some "marketing".
I mean, how hard could that be? Politicians "market" all the time, and if they can do it, anyone can... wait a minute, forget I said that... what I meant to say was, when my brother-in-law gets back to North Carolina he will be picking a few truckloads of flue-cured tobacco and driving it to the lab to be processed into pure nicotine which I can have in the mail to you tomorrow.
How many liters can I put you down for?

Please ingore the fact that I mentioned he is currently in Florida, and also ignore the fact that it takes a week to flue-cure tobacco.
I'm sure Randy would also like you to ignore that last bit.
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Well, he started posting on 7/08 I think. He was already an approved vendor on ecf. Strange he didn't post over here. Things really got going within a few days. At least he didn't use the shill technique a lot of other vendors use (like Starbucks).


(don't forget to use the U.S. made label printer)

I wonder if there were any warehouse fires in N.C. and pallets of Nic Patches went on the surplus market?
What would 500 pounds of expired Nicotrol patches be worth?


(man, you are slow, using dial up?, open two windows, one to read, one to type )
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Why is everybody so worried about Chinese e-juice anyway? They sell to the world and large U.S. vendors have toured the DeKang facilities and were impressed.

So, just how many gallons are you gonna buy?
The Chinese are our current boogie-man, just like the Russians before them.
The fact that they have taken over nearly all of our manufacturing just makes us hate them that much more.
Unfortunately, because of that, any screw-ups or corporate corruption that happens over there gets top-billing in press over here.

Most Americans know all about the melamine in chinese baby formula story, but have no idea that other countries won't buy our beef because we still have bovine spongiform encephalopathy in our food chain.
They also have no idea that nearly every major US manufacturer has a "risk management" department that decides the cost benefit analysis between settling lawsuits with the families of the Americans it's product kills versus the cost of a product recall.

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Well, he started posting on 7/08 I think. He was already an approved vendor on ecf. Strange he didn't post over here.
It only takes a couple of weeks to become approved so long as you've followed their rules.
He's been a member there since 3/11 when he started vaping.
He registered the rtsvapes.com domain in 4/11 when he realized he could make money off of this.
And in 7/11 he finally opened his website to rave reviews.

Funny thing is that he states he spent 6 months putting together his supply chain of US farmers and labs... which meant he started doing that 2 months before he started vaping?

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(man, you are slow, using dial up?, open two windows, one to read, one to type )
Sorry for the delay.
I actually have about 20 windows open atm.
One of them I'm watching Gordon Ramsey's Kitchen Nightmares UK.
The others are open to various ecig, packaging suppliers, and web design forums.
The wife and I run a small web design business (in addition to my fulltime job, the remnants of my aquaculture business and her real estate), so I'm also working on a database for her.
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kidding about being slow.

I dug out the remains of an old (FIFO) 6% NIC/500ml I bought from Freedom Smokes, of guess where? Charlotte. With an official looking reagent label, for lab use only. I think they advertised it (about a year ago) as being U.S. made, maybe not, don't remember. Maybe just mixed in Charlotte. Their Catalog # was the NIC CAS# spelled backwards
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Rocket I am so glad you approve of this guy. I read that other thread in its entirety the other day and I totally got a good vibe about this guy. He is smart, he sharp, he struck me as humble but confident at the same time. Well you confirmed my impression by giving the "whois" is on him lol, no I didn't go into looking up all about who he was but now I am for sure going to buy from this guy. Well I knew before hand but still now I am really sure and yes I am going with the 100mg.

I wish this man luck cause if he can pull it off more props to him, I prefer to go with american made any day. Chinese are the same people that put stuff in our toothpaste and in our kids toys, now would we of found out if it hadn't had some regulation? Our vg and pg nicotine bases have no regulation therefore how in the heck are we to know. Regulation equals more taxes increase product cost but at the same time we know what we are putting in our bodies much less our lungs. Oh me before I get way off here!

Anyway I am so glad you 2 are interested in this dealer, I will for sure be purchasing from him I am still just trying to figure the cheapest route to go and once I do I may be laid out in a comma somewhere, LOL!!!!
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I just placed my order!!!!!!! LOL

(In the nick of time also here comes the hubby,)
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Old 07-24-2011, 07:31 AM   #16
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wow, someone must of misinterpreted something.

I think the guy is a flimflam man.
Smart? yes.
but no one has seen proof that it;s U.S. made.
He can't prove it without giving away his secrets.
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So do you think he just direct buys then sells it wholesale? I mean if this was the case people would be more likely to buy it since we have been already purchasing knowing that the nic was originated from china. He could then have proof. Me personally speaking it would be easier to sell a product at the price and tell where it was coming from. People seem more cautious when he says that it is coming from america and they tend to stand back and fear it for that reason and they are more comfortable with china made still with no regulation. For that reason he would benefit more if he said it came from china if that were the case. So no reason to lie!

I already placed my order and it wasn't just based on my misinterpretation of your words. I mean if it is from china as you say then it is still cheaper than what I can find elsewhere so for that alone is worth more looking into.
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Well, I'm gonna clarify what I have said about this company.

1. He is into anything that makes money, over 130 lines of business in the last 5 years.
2. His North Carolina operation seems to centered on the 2011 Tobacco harvest.
3. This IS PROBABLY U.S. grown, extracted, and tested U.S. made Nicotine.
4. There has been NO PROOF OF QUALITY available to the public.
5. He is NOT an expert on Nicotine, I hope his LAB IS (extraction lab, and testing lab).
6. HE is selling primarily in small lots to people that don't seem to question his ingredients.
7. Most concentrated Chinese Nicotine sold through U.S. vendors is TESTED in the U.S.
8. Mr Randy seems to have gotten excited about his new vaping habit$$$$$$$.

I will not endorse a product I know nothing about. I would not know how to pick out the best tobacco leaves anyway. A smart tobacco farmer would see me coming from a mile away and probably sell me trash

So for the rest of you guys out there, Don't take my interest in this thread as an endorsement.


and Mr. Randy, sorry if anything I have said is offensive to your business model. I would normally not post unqualified negative stuff about a vendor in his own supplier hype thread, but remember, this isn't really a "Vendor Thread"..

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and the prices aren't really all that great
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I didn't know DOW was still making Glycerin in the U.S.
I thought they had moved Glycerin production out of the country.

and I think the Dow stuff is synthetic, not vegetable.

From the DOW site:
Kosher certification is easily attained because OPTIM™ Glycerine is produced synthetically from petrochemicals through carefully monitored reaction and purification steps, and from the use of consistent and uniform raw materials manufactured by Dow.


Randy says his is
"I am talking about VG USP Kosher without nicotine. Ours is manufactured by DOW and is thick (2,200 SSU @ 68 degrees F)."




This is the stuff I jokingly refer to as coming from
"rendering old tires"
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Well I understand now what you mean. Well I haven't found better prices for the small amounts I am looking at so I am pleased. I will let you know my take when I get it. Not like I am judge worthy but I will answer any question you have inpartially so you can discern if it is worth investigating further.
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Omw vg is animal and vegetable though. Pg is the tire crap. RIGHT????
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I purchased some more vg from another vendor a little bit ago so I will compare. Kosher means nothing to me cause I am not jewish!! Kosher has nothing to do with quality!
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Google GLYCERIN
Some old guy once said
"glycerin can be made from vegetables, pig squeezins, or by rendering old tires"

Propylene Glycol used to be considered totally synthetic but the same old guy said
"recently found dripping out of the glycerin process"

meaning it can be converted from any of the glycerin processes.

and the SAME old guy said he didn't like the synthetic glycerin,
but what does he know

Kosher certification, not implied Kosher, means that the process, and sales receipts balance out for Vegetable products going in and VG coming out. By periodic inspection by an organization with significant interest in the outgoing process. I'm not Jewish either, and I have not inspected a VG plant in my life.

There's even a big trade in "Counterfeit Kosher Products" and law suits going on for businesses that claim certification.
Kosher Certification does have some business value. How many VG plants have you inspected?
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I still can't get over the fact that no one over there has noticed that Randy only discovered ecigs and vaping 4 months ago, but claims he has been setting-up his nic business for 6 months.

I think the world is becoming math-challenged.

I'm resisting the urge to post in his thread, but I don't know how much longer I can bite my tongue.

In light of the lack of proof, the only thing we have to judge his claims on are character.
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When the tobacco harvest is over, and someone reports real gold dripping out of Iowa corn, Randy will relocate to Cedar Rapids and open a Gold Emporium (has experience in gold watches BTW).

Man does know how to make money.
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