anonymous

Community;

INTRODUCTION
I am in the process of performing formally sponsored research (Funded from a totally unbiased source) on electronic cigarettes; currently the team is staged and coming into the 7th week of a 22 week process. This research is being performed at a top 5 engineering university level and is being done in a proper designed experiment manor on the vapor and particulate emissions from various electronic cigarettes. As of now our team (comprised of PhD level & graduate level team members) is focusing on the 510, 901, and Ruyan V8 models. However, we are looking top decompose as many atomizers and electronic cigarette types as possible in order to understand how each individual system is designed. This research will serve as an informational basis for future US Senate & Congressional legislation. Please feel free to verify this information with this board's moderators and the owner of e-cigarette-forum.com. I will be providing updates on the project and entertaining questions to the best of my ability. We will also be looking for information contributions from as many suppliers, forum members, and manufacturers as possible. Should you feel that you have something to offer to the project (Must be non-monetary) please contact me via PM.

ANALYSIS
The study will use standardized methods to collect these mediums and analyze them VIA GC/MS and HPLC methods. We have access to the most modern equipment, techniques, and minds in the world.

CONTACT
Due to the customer's demand for a proprietary status until completion I cannot share specific details about this project. However, should you feel you can contribute in any way to the project be it by providing goods, knowledge, or support I will do my best to prove the validity of this project's existence and it's magnitude.

Stehle

Sounds like great research to me! Please PM me if I can provide any information to the study.

anonymous

Stehle,

Thanks for responding to the thread! Right now we're in our budgeting and product purchasing stages for smoking devices and the machine to test them. We're could really use any information or contacts of sellers who may be willing to contribute items to the study. I'm just verifying with our customer that this would not negatively influence our study's validity. We're also looking for an intact Ruyan V8 (working, used, or broken). Finally, if you have any high level understanding of what the actual physical triple point state of the fog emitted by electronic cigarettes, engineering diagrams of electronic cigarettes (3D Models), high level understanding of the device's operational physics, or additional items we should consider within our scope i'd be all ears.

Stehle

Only been vaping since April... but I learn something new everyday.

Define "understanding".

I majored in Spherical Physics in college and made a pretty good living at it to until I retired.

(Just kidding... sorta.)

I have owned and tried many of the various e-cig models, but consider my area of quasi-expertise to be the 084 (Dse084) and its inner workings.

anonymous

You have no idea how excited I was to hear you were a physics major. Killed me with the images, lol. The 084 is actually the first cigarette that we decomposed to grab a look at its internals. We've actually got an exploded bread boarded working model of it. We're having a difficult time understanding the purpose of the white cup that surrounds the heating element. We're not sure if it's just a spacer, flow element, or a ceramic that can wick the liquid into itself at small amounts.

Any input you have (photos and diagrams are great) on the flow pattern at a micro level of the cigarette would be a great help. We're looking into saturating the liquid with a energy reactive dye or irradiating it and using a deep penetrating laser to model the flow as well as measure the atomic particle size generated. We REALLY need to know what the state of the mist is. Options are as follows:

1. Superheated Vapor
2. Saturated Suspended Water Molecule
3. Low Level Atomized Matter (Such as you would get from a perfume bottle)

Stehle

I'll give this one a shot...

The ceramic pot may be a high heat insulator of sorts, but I find it might also aid in the retention of superheated liquid. I have not however found that it aids in the wick effect controlling any flow of liquid.

Definitely #1

(Unless the atomizer was flooded or failing I'd go with #3, but in the former case the liquid particles would probably be much denser.)

Hope it helps.

mikelangesr

PM me if I can be of help in this research

Snarkyone

That thing keeps the liquid from coming up into your mouth. It basically covers the wick material acting as a gasket leaving just the air hole exposed. That is if it's anything like others I have seen.

As for the state of the liquid it is a vapor, it would not qualify as a mist at that point. Once the heat is applied and the liquid starts to heat up and reaches it vaporization point, there is no mist.

VtVapor

US manufacturer of e-liquid and seller of vaping supplies. PM if there's anything my company can help with.
~~Adam

Hachiroku

Hmmmm...I just busted one of these trying to make it work harder...

Just can't leave things alone!

As an electronic tech in aerospace, I have seen these used to insulate contacts like these in high-heat/high current applications. Perhaps it's just a bit of 'over-engineering'? Perhaps they really didn't want the Li-Ion battery exploding in your face...