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Old 02-03-2009, 08:33 PM   #26
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Seen a webpage (Halo sent me) that stated Crown7 gave Obama one of their new Hydra's. Stated it was "exclusive". Maybe he'll come on these boards and give a video review...I been wanting to see one.
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Here it is: Crown7 Introduces President Obama to New Smokeless HYDRO Device to Satisfy His Nicotine Fix
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Old 02-04-2009, 10:16 AM   #28
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Quote from that link: "...Crown7.com, the global leader in alternative cigarettes..."

WTF? Where do they get to make that claim????
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The difference is that your statement is true.
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Old 02-04-2009, 12:53 PM   #33
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Ya I saw this too, apparently there in the paper in like 15 different states from what Ive been hearing.
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Trust me I would totally send Obama one of our great products but it's not worth it, because Obama Will probably never get it. The Process to get anything to the President goes through soooooooo many different tests and standards before it gets it him if it gets to him. I just think this whole thing is stupid for a supplier to do this right now especially being that he is calling his E-cigs as a smoking cessation device and a quit smoking device. We are called Pure Smoker for a reason. Not a Safe Cig. There are many great benefits on these devices but if everyone wants to make this a quit smoking device then it will have to be approved by fda and done through big pharma.. and noone wants to pay that price they are going to charge. I think jon will get the point hopefully, someday maybe after his lawyers tell him to change his wording.
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Old 02-04-2009, 05:42 PM   #35
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I think jon will get the point hopefully, someday maybe after his lawyers tell him to change his wording.
One hopes, haha. It seems that having half a forum scream at him only made him more resolute, so far.
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Old 02-04-2009, 06:20 PM   #36
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One hopes, haha. It seems that having half a forum scream at him only made him more resolute, so far.

Hahaha ya no kidding, he detirmined to get these thing in front of the FDA!!! And Ive done my research and found out some things as well, all I have to say is NOBODY HAS TO WORRY ABOUT A THING!!!! :-)
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Hey There!
Here's the site that explains a lot about all this! It's the New Zealand Gov. Health Site.
http://www.healthnz.co.nz/ecigarette.htm

Here's part of it:
United States As of March 2008, the RuyanŽ E-Cigarette (REC) and its cartridges can be imported, distributed, marketed and sold in the US as a smoking substitute or cigarette alternative, but not as a smoking cessation device. RAI and its advisors cite compelling public health reasons to market the REC and its nicotine cartridges to smokers, to satisfy cravings and urges for nicotine, and without producing second hand smoke and without endangering the health or well-being of family members, associates and/or bystanders. RuyanŽ America Inc says it will regularly evaluate the timing of and opportunities represented by seeking and securing FDA-approval as a smoking cessation product.

As a substitute or alternative, the products as of March 2008 are exempt from FDA regulations in that:

ˇ The US FDA in 1996 assumed powers to regulate nicotine and tobacco. The US Supreme Court in 2000 reversed this assumption. Meantime, as long as Ruyan does not make therapeutic claims the drug is not regarded as a medicine and can be sold in the USA as a cigarette alternative.

The US Treasury’s TTB has determined that the products are exempt from tobacco-related controls, limitation and taxation in that neither the REC or its cartridges contain tobacco; and, US Customs and Border Security has also determined that the products are not tobacco related. As the products do not contain tobacco, it is not expected that the RuyanŽ e-cigarette would not be prohibited from any advertising or marketing medium by regulation.

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does anyone know if my e ciggs that are currently being "held in customs" has any chance of ever getting to me? or is it a total loss when they hold them.
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As I understand it, it is like trying to pull teeth from a chicken to get it back
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does gum have to be overseen by the FDA? not nicotine gum, but people have used gum and other candies to stop smoking for over a hundred years. I know these are not advertised as smoking sesation devices, but the terminology is crap. I tell everyone I know they helped me quit smoking and it may work for them, but everyone who has used them quit smoking as much as they previously did. Can it be called a smoking alternative instead of ceasation device? Who's ready to raid the FDA and stone some of these stupid nazis?
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LOL bigstick ... here is our statistics ... out of 103 customers 40% have stopped all together, 60% have cut down to 1 to 3 cigarettes per day.

The FDA has no intentions of regulating anything they don't get lobby money for.
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Old 12-04-2009, 01:49 PM   #42
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Quote from that link: "...Crown7.com, the global leader in alternative cigarettes..."

WTF? Where do they get to make that claim????
Because they were the first electronic cigarette company in the UNITED STATES from what i have read and researched. They have been in business for 3 1/2 years. So Idk what to believe!
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Old 12-04-2009, 08:49 PM   #43
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does anyone know if my e ciggs that are currently being "held in customs" has any chance of ever getting to me? or is it a total loss when they hold them.
Well aveciggman ... Personal experience of quite a few shipments and several $K's dollars... and not a dime or piece of cardboard received.


(Could just be me though.)
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