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07-05-2009, 06:21 PM
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#1 | | Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Hamburg / Germany
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| Hi guys,
just registered here and want to introduce myself:
I am the CEO of german company red kiwi GmbH which sells e-cigarette, cartriges and Liquid unter the brand esmoker for more than 2 years in germany.
It is fantastic to see how e-cigarette spreads over the world providing a less harmful alternative to smoking to more and more people.
We currently do not sell outside europe, but this may change in the future if we find it makes sense. However, its good to find a strong forum here, and I will try to stop by as often as I can.
Sven Heeder | 
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07-11-2009, 06:40 PM
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#2 | | Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Florida
Posts: 46
| Can I see your website? Maybe you can post a url.... Not to be stereotyping but I'll bet a German made ecig would be of better quality than Chinese. Kinda like German made guns, cars, stereos, etc....
I Googled you and got a restaurant in Miami. LOL | |
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07-12-2009, 03:27 PM
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#3 | | Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Hamburg / Germany
Posts: 7
| Our website address can be found in my profile. I don't know if its allowed in this forum to post advertisement links?
The products we currently sell are from china, so our products may have similar problems as the ones you find in the US. However, we now have started development of our own products which will be engineered and produced in germany from european electronic parts.
The first stage will be batteries for DSE801 and DSE901 compatible models. Our battery will have several advantages over the original ones while keeping the same design appearance. We currenty test the first handmade samples and hope to start mass production during august, 2009.
Later this year, we plan to start with our own vaporizer. | |
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07-13-2009, 01:40 AM
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#4 | | Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Vancouver, WA
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Originally Posted by esmoker  Our website address can be found in my profile. I don't know if its allowed in this forum to post advertisement links? | If someone asks you about your website or products, feel free to answer their questions but please don't over-do it.
A short, tasteful signature would inspire interest in your website without annoying anyone.
Advertisements are welcome in the "Supplier Hype!" thread.
Welcome aboard, and thank you for being so considerate.
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May you see a day when you look forward to the next FDA ruling. | |
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07-13-2009, 07:12 AM
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#5 | | awarded title of Sir Arse Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Louisiana
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| oh that's a tough one, lets see "emoker", from germany, I bet that's ".de".
Not to worry,
a Yahoo search got me to your site, "emoker website in germany"
Not a problem, I have a translator in the family.
Rocket
(are they watching you over there also?)
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07-13-2009, 07:30 AM
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#6 | | Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Hamburg / Germany
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| yes, its esmoker.de . This website is live since early 2007. Other "esmoker" companies you may see on the web have been established later and are not aligned with us.
We currently do not have english version of website online or up to date, sorry for that. We may add english version later. Most of our current customers come from german speaking europe. | |
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07-13-2009, 12:49 PM
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#7 | | Green Smoke Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Florida
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Originally Posted by esmoker Our website address can be found in my profile. I don't know if its allowed in this forum to post advertisement links?
The products we currently sell are from china, so our products may have similar problems as the ones you find in the US. However, we now have started development of our own products which will be engineered and produced in germany from european electronic parts.
The first stage will be batteries for DSE801 and DSE901 compatible models. Our battery will have several advantages over the original ones while keeping the same design appearance. We currenty test the first handmade samples and hope to start mass production during august, 2009.
Later this year, we plan to start with our own vaporizer. | Sven, Glad you've joined us here. That will be wunderbar when you start manufacturing eCigs in Germany! But once you do, please do not sub it out to the Orient somewhere, that would be defeating the purpose. Marketing eCigs in the U.S. would no doubt be a lot easier if we could have a quality European source. http://www.greensmoke.com/breakfree
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07-13-2009, 01:00 PM
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#8 | | Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Hamburg / Germany
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| It seems the european market is a bit ahead of US market. In my eyes, reason is that e-cigarette was introduced into the market in 2006 already - at that time, only cigar models were available. Early 2007, the standard cigarette (DSE801 type) started.
Some chinese factories already have 2-3 yeary experience, but they all do not understand european quality requirements which are same as US requirements. The average overall failure rate of the devices is around 20% (if MP was okay) and can go up to 100% if factory had a bad day.
We have own staff in china controlling our production, however, the quality has not been rising in the past two years.
It is a menthality problem (don't know if I spelled correct...). The chinese factories mainly focus in output qty rather than their quality. The only chance for more stable products is the engineering, but even more the production in experienced industry nation of europe or US. Even in case the chinese try to copy concepts, the e-cigarette factories cannot parallel our industry nation quality.
Anyone interested in distributing our products in the US? Feel free to contact me. | |
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07-13-2009, 01:59 PM
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#9 | | Green Smoke Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Florida
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| Sven, Great minds think alike. It appears I was sending you a message at your profile while you were typing this. It should be there waiting for you. I've left my contact information there, hope to hear from you soon!
P.S. It is imperative you only do business with those in the U.S. that are of German heritage like myself. lol, just kidding.....
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07-15-2009, 04:20 PM
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#10 | | Green Smoke Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Florida
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| Sven, Where are ya buddy? I hope you havn't abandoned us after tantalizing us with the prospect of having a European source at last. | |
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07-15-2009, 05:49 PM
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#11 | | Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Hamburg / Germany
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| you've got mail  | |
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07-15-2009, 08:50 PM
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#12 | | Green Smoke Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Florida
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Originally Posted by esmoker you've got mail | Gotcha! | |
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09-10-2010, 03:54 PM
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#14 | | ☆ The So-Cal Vaper ☆ Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Southern california
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| I'd love to see a PV manufactured in Germany. especially in matte black. (i could lay it next to my USP and take photos) | |
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01-30-2012, 05:04 PM
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#15 | | Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Germany
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| I live in germany and am currently using an ego-t that was sold by esmoker. I have tried several of their ejuices, artic menthol, burban vanilla, green apple, and apple and I have to say they are all good. The only Issue I have is that the starter kit was expensive and only comes with one batt, atomizer, charger and 5 tanks. 50 euro 49.95 was pretty steep but I wanted it right there and then. I would suggest to the CEO that you offer a 1 more batt and atty to the starter kit to make it a better value. The kits you can order from other sites is half the price with the mentoned parts. Also I bought my kit from Honer and they have no accessory's just the starter kits. | |
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01-30-2012, 08:28 PM
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#16 | | Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: In Your Dreams
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| You surely do need a few more batteries! That stinks that you were ripped off like that.  | |
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