Envy Carts

vapegodess · 03-01-2010, 05:12 PM

Does anyone know how long a cart from Envy are supposed to last. I don't think that I am getting all of the liquid out of them. Is there a way to make sure your getting all of it out of them? I have tried all of their flavors, vanilla, ff, menthol, strawberry, and cherry. I do not really care for the cherry one, but the rest I think are good. I have ordered eliquid from Vapure the friday before last and it still has not shipped. I am very dissappointed with them. And no one will respond to my emails and there is no way to cancel my order. I guess I will just have to wait it out. I will never order from them again.

Oggy · 03-01-2010, 11:25 PM

I dont have any experience with Envy, but the 510 and 808 carts dont last as long as they say. It is alot cheaper and easier to just refill your own. Check out the vendors here, Several come VERY highly recomended and are VERY fast on shipping.

bigslick83 · 03-02-2010, 09:34 AM

try this if you havnt already,

use a paper clip bent straight (or other long pointy thing) and stick it through the tiny mouthpeice hole. you should be able to free the cup at the bottom of the cart, and bring it out the end that goes on the atty.

you will see that little cup w/ filler can only hold a tiny bit of liquid. the up side is that you waste much less liquid each refil (unless you spill it all over)

other models like the 901 and 510 have a different setup with a larger capacity to hold juice (but more is left in the cart when you have to top off). and 808d-1 cartomizers hold even more juice then those.

since all people take different sized puffs, it is hard to measure how much you should get. your model by the way, is the M403 by smoore. try to gauge how many puffs you get from a new cart, and then one that has been refilled multiple times and you should see a noticable decline in duration. (remember refilling carts may void your warrenty)

you can get some cheap juice from strictlyejuice.com* with a min $10 order comes free shipping, if you wanted to dabble.

*warning: SHIT HAPPENS!

40bikes · 03-02-2010, 12:32 PM

Big Slick, thanks for helping me and the Goddess There are so many re branded models out there it is hard to give specific advice. I have a 4081 that I really like but it took me a while to find out what I had and that I had no right to be happy with it(SmokeEverywhere). The only thing I know about the M series PVs is that the M401 and 402s have the same batt threads as the 510. It would help if manufacturers would say this is a 403 Or 801 but then they wouldn't be able to pretend that theirs was the only AND best E-cig on the planet. Thanks again, bikes

vapegodess · 03-02-2010, 12:57 PM

My Envy is a 403. I have found out only by searching a lot of different places. I am happy with it though. What company has the fastest shipping when it comes to the juice? I am tired of waiting for mine to come and want to reorder with someone else. The thing that sucks is I am stuck waiting for this other company. I have heard that Envy will eventually start to carry juice as well, but I am not sure when this is going to happen.

40bikes · 03-02-2010, 06:10 PM

Goddess, hard to recommend a vendor that would get you juice faster at this point.
I've had good luck with mad vapes,value vapor,puresmoker,lecig, cignot, strictlyejuice ,all with quick response time and reasonable shipping.
But as soon as you put in an order from someone your order will show up from the slow vendor,you know how that goes.
Right now a lot of them are waiting for orders from China stalled by Chinese New Years, that may be what slowed down your earlier order.
Tastyvapor and Johnson Creek and Vtvapor are U.S based but you never know till you check what anyone has on hand and what they can get to you quickly.
Good Luck, bikes

bigslick83 · 03-03-2010, 03:22 AM

if you really, i mean really want to be sure you don't run out, do what I do.

start selling juice. i have not graduated to DIY yet, but I buy 30ml bottles of ejuice at about 33 cents/ml and resell it at about 50-75 cents. this pays for the extra bottles, my time, and juice habbit all at once.

he (or she) who controls the juice, controls the world!

I order about 180ml at a time (start with tobacco and menthol and branch out, I did this once a week, now almost daily)

people hate to wait, and even more, hate the thought of going back to analogs because of a juice shortage. if you really wanna get risky, you can get your juice from china at about 15 cents /ml if you wanna spend $250 to get free shipping.

to get customers, I just went to a few local liquor and smoke shops around here that already sell ecigs (no juice tho) and give them a stack of cards to set next to their ecig displays. one store told me that they had an agreement with their distributor not to sell any ejuice though. I convienced them since they were not actually selling it, that it would be okay.

i save everyones number in my phone under niquid, and when I get a new flavor in (the flavor of the week) i send out a group text message to promote sales to existing customers.

i know this is not for everyone, but it will make you very popular

good luck!

firhill · 03-03-2010, 05:30 AM

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Originally Posted by bigslick83

resell it at about 50-75 cents.

I guess the old adage ..."there's a sucker born everyday"...still holds true.

bigslick83 · 03-03-2010, 08:04 AM

lol
some of these people don't have the internet, and the real suckers are the ones who buy the prefilled carts...

40bikes · 03-03-2010, 12:07 PM

We're smart though It's not like I was buying regular cigarettes last halloween for $.25 a stick. Not me! I'm not a sucker who smoked for 52 yrs. I lied, I was a sucker for Tobacco and now I'm a sucker for vaping. Now that I'm hooked on vaping I'd be happy to be saving half off what analogs cost even if it is twice the price of what I could be paying for vaping supplies, IF I knew AND had access.

bigslick83 · 03-03-2010, 02:58 PM

yes bikes, that's great, and I meant no offense.

I also quit right around halloween last year. my girlfriend made me stop by the store last night and buy her a pack of analogs (YUK! $5) I felt dirty, like I was buying animal porn or something.

I also don't believe I am rippin people off by any means. sure I could sell the juice at cost, but then I couldn't keep any in stock because a few people would horde it all (trust me I tried). With supply/demand, I can turn it around, invest my profits into buying more kits, and more juice, and help many more people than I could if I didn't charge more.

SmokeAdellic · 03-03-2010, 11:44 PM

I personally owned the envy and I now use a joye 510 manual where I can speak from personal experience if i was to use envy carts I would probally spend about 15-20 bucks a week and now using juice it probally cost me $3 for a 5ml bottle every 2-3 weeks so even paying a dollar a ml would be much cheaper than purchasing the envy carts.

P.S. Bigslick83s a punk wanna be fake kr808 vapor.

P.S.S. Just playin Bigslick83s my boy 4real.

P.S.S.S. Hes gangsta with the vapes!!!

bigslick83 · 03-04-2010, 03:13 AM

yea boy, dont make me pull out my 9mg and bust drop in your ass!

40bikes · 03-04-2010, 11:11 AM

Big slick, Sorry I'm not getting you I think you are providing a service that works. Every time I see the walmart commercial about cashing the checks for $3 I get pissed. not at Wally world. The reason people don't have checking accounts or need "green drop" credit cards is the banks we just bailed out for about 700 billion bucks charge 8 or 10 bucks a month far an acc't + checks at about $12 a hundred and 50 if you overdraw an 50 for a late fee. I've been strapped before, I know it costs more to be poor.
I was able to wave a $100 in front of the guy at the mall when I got my Smoke Everywhere 4081 and get a Gold set ,5ml of juice and 15 carts that would have been 179
on a card. 75 cents a ml for juice and not having to send $15 or 20 to china for cheap juice seems pretty fair actually, the mall guy was actually asking $79 for a 15ml jug of juice that's over $5 per ml.

bigslick83 · 03-05-2010, 02:01 AM

my conscience thanks you bikes

i always end up givin people discounts too if they promise to tell their friends and family where they got it if they are interested.

i have a full time job (one of the lucky ones now adays) so I'm not looking to score big time in the e cig game. i listed a few extra kits i had on craig's list at over inflated prices ($65) with juice and a case and people blew my phone up! the only other person on there was a guy from greennicotine selling them for $170.

I know exactly what you mean about banks too. I reluctantly use a credit union for paying bills with a checking account, and that still bothers me. The fees and penaltys are outrageous. The thing that gets me is how they use our money. If my bank has a million dollars from other people's hard earned savings, they will loan out 10 million at 8% interest (realizing 80% interest) making a killing off the workin man's money. and they say dont worry, your money is safe and insured by the FDIC. if the FDIC has so much money (over 50 billion supposedly) why have they not paid off the 8 billion needed because of the banks that failed in 09? its like the bookey is betting against you with your money while fixing the race in the first place.

to get really really off topic now, I have been learning about sound money and kenysian and austrian economics of late and it is very confusing, so I have to take it slow and steady. it is really astonishing. here are a few quotes, but I can not authenticate the second one.

"The bankers own the earth.Take it away from them, but leave them the power to create money, and with the flick of the pen they will create enough money to buy it back again. However take away from them the power to create money, and all the great fortunes will disappear and they ought to disappear, for this would be a happier and better world to live in. But, if you wish to remain the slaves of bankers and pay the cost of your own slavery, let them continue to create money."
Sir Josiah Stamp

"It is well enough that our people do not understand our banking and monetary system, for if they did, I believe there would be a revolution tomorrow morning."
Henry Ford

Alpine77 · 03-05-2010, 10:30 AM

Vapegoddess, here are two videos that may interest you. They will show you how to clean and refill your cartridges and also how to top off your cartridges with e-liquid. Clean and Refill Video || Topping off video

Hope that helps you in your endeavor to save money and refill your carts!

vapegodess · 03-08-2010, 06:28 PM

Thanks for the videos. They were definately helpful. I have bought some juice and now I know I have been topping them off the wrong way. I will try to do what is in the video from now on. I have found that I am going through juice pretty quick though. I will see if filling them and so on that way will help.