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Old 10-05-2013, 07:17 AM   #1
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Hi all,

I've been smoking ecigs now for a little over a year and found that my health and fitness has greatly improved, i've seen very little in the way of negative side effects from using ecigs but wondering whether others have any comments on the matter?

In your experience are ecigs safe? are electronic cigarettes safe

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Old 10-05-2013, 07:33 AM   #2
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So far so good?

Other than user error, there don't appear to be any health related reports labeling ecigs as unsafe. Obviously when dealing with batts and voltage, a level of know-how comes into play.

Plus, they can't possibly be any "unsafer" than real cigs.
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It's a no brainer for me, my lung capacity was down to 70%, now they say it's around 85% and I feel a hell of a lot better. I also seem to be having less problems with allergies, that's not saying I'm cured by any means but the symptoms seem less severe to me.
Cholesterol is down, in part due to diet, but also in part to the fact that when I feel like snacking on something I just change flavors and enjoy vaping. And yea, I have also dropped some weight but not enough to brag about.

As for the down sides,
I have a real problem with Vapors OCD and wanting things I can't afford.
I found this crazy asylum and seem to be stuck here.
And even spending what I do on vaping it's still cheaper than analogs.

Gosh, what that list of down sides I should probably go back to the analogs. NOT!!! LoL
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Well we do have some new negative press thanks elon musks detractors.
Since one of his electric cars went up in flames theres new debates about how safe li ion batteries are.
It seems somewhere in california a guy who also happened to be an engineer and a tesla
investor manage to spear the forward li-ion battery pack with a piece of metal from a semi.
How professional fire crews didnt know how for put out a battery fire i dont know, but they decided to punch more holes in the battery and made things worse.
Now, knowing how badly i cant leave well enough alone, and knowing this guy was and engineer.... Im thinking he may have altered the battery case figuring on improving airflow and cooling of the battery.
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Old 10-05-2013, 10:05 AM   #6
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Interesting. I just skimmed that article about the Tesla and didn't see the part about them opening more holes in the battery!

Perhaps they didn't realize the Tesla is an electric car. Toyota has training classes around the country for emergency personnel in how to handle the event of a crash or fire with a Prius, so firefighters know when they come up to a Prius how to handle an emergency. I don't know about a Tesla, but with a Prius there are specific steps to take if servicing or dealing with an emergency with a Prius. Disconnecting the energy supply the wrong way can make things worse, or even kill the person disconnecting the energy supply. If Tesla were smart, they would make their cars known and offer similar training in how to deal with an emergency.
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The whole ordeal cost them plenty. Tesla stocks took quite a dip.
I'll see if i can find the article with the bit about the fire crew. It was
One of the first to be posted.
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I found an article that mentions the fire crews, its not the one i read the other day, but huge portions of it are word for word.

http://www.hybridcars.com/elon-musk-...-model-s-fire/
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Interesting. I just skimmed that article about the Tesla and didn't see the part about them opening more holes in the battery!

Perhaps they didn't realize the Tesla is an electric car. Toyota has training classes around the country for emergency personnel in how to handle the event of a crash or fire with a Prius, so firefighters know when they come up to a Prius how to handle an emergency. I don't know about a Tesla, but with a Prius there are specific steps to take if servicing or dealing with an emergency with a Prius. Disconnecting the energy supply the wrong way can make things worse, or even kill the person disconnecting the energy supply. If Tesla were smart, they would make their cars known and offer similar training in how to deal with an emergency.
Ya know, now that i think on it; they had to know it was an EV. They drilled holes in the battery case. They wouldnt put holes in a gas tank. The holes had to have been on purpose, that case is 1/4" thick on the bottom, at least. Even at half of that i dont see anyone punching a hole with a wrecking bar on accident.
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Wow. The metal pierced 1/4" armour plate?

I think the owner should sue the bstards for negligence!!
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Still...theres always the positive sides as vaping reaches further into main stream..like this
I like to think of it as an "arrival" ...when mocked nationally
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Wow. The metal pierced 1/4" armour plate?

I think the owner should sue the bstards for negligence!!
For not making it 3/8"?
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First some comments on the Tesla fire.
Made it worse? Sorry, once it started it was going to finish.
They could have dipped the whole car in liquid nitrogen.
And losing money? Do you think they have dealer lots full of cars like Honda, GM,
Toyota? They sell every one they can make, and still have a waiting list.
Stock price hurt them? They SOLD those shares. It's stockholders that took a hit.

OK, back on topic, are e-cigs safe? Not as safe as going cold turkey and unless you do something extreme with the e-cig itself, the atty/carto, or the e-juice, vaping is much less of a risk than inhaling tobacco smoke.
How many think 'extreme vaping' is as safe as 'light beer vaping' ?
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Old 10-05-2013, 10:40 PM   #15
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Not sure. The products from informal manufacturers in low quality may have safety problems.
PS:Senior officials of the U.S. law urged the FDA in joint names to develop electronic cigarettes specification
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Part of the problem, and perhaps something we need to address are places like MD Anderson in Houston. They are still spouting against eCigs because "We don't know what's in them". A truthful answer from them would be to say they haven't studied them, or not offer an opinion due to their lack of information. Their entire argument is nothing more than negative hype based on their own ignorance. And yes, I got in a rather heated discussion with one of their doctors yesterday. Don't worry, I was nice, but I did keep laughing at him every time he mentioned one of those "Company Lines" and urged him to learn the facts for himself instead of being another pathetic sheep following the heard. I suspect he will also be reading this post, as I pointed him this way. We can also offer him a lively (if not hysterical) debate on the real issues with vaping.

Oh and BTW, according to him all the good things we have to say about vaping, is just hype to lure people into buying these products. I almost needed a doctor, the pain from laughing that hard was incredible!!

Fact is, we are fighting with people who are supposed to be our leaders in the medical field, but just like our leaders in congress they are so far out of touch with the real world it's pathetic. Escape your glass bubble and live like REAL people, you might be amazed at your own ignorance.
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Part of the problem, and perhaps something we need to address are places like MD Anderson in Houston. They are still spouting against eCigs because "We don't know what's in them". A truthful answer from them would be to say they haven't studied them, or not offer an opinion due to their lack of information. Their entire argument is nothing more than negative hype based on their own ignorance. And yes, I got in a rather heated discussion with one of their doctors yesterday. Don't worry, I was nice, but I did keep laughing at him every time he mentioned one of those "Company Lines" and urged him to learn the facts for himself instead of being another pathetic sheep following the heard. I suspect he will also be reading this post, as I pointed him this way. We can also offer him a lively (if not hysterical) debate on the real issues with vaping.
Like burning out atomizers in a matter of days, or hours...

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Oh and BTW, according to him all the good things we have to say about vaping, is just hype to lure people into buying these products. I almost needed a doctor, the pain from laughing that hard was incredible!!

Fact is, we are fighting with people who are supposed to be our leaders in the medical field, but just like our leaders in congress they are so far out of touch with the real world it's pathetic. Escape your glass bubble and live like REAL people, you might be amazed at your own ignorance.

They see smoke, so it's smoke. It's like the Global Warming believers, you tell them it's happened before and they ignore it.

Someone (FDA, etc) really needs to do a comprehensive test so we ALL know what's in them. Then we can ALL speak more intelligently on the topic. When I get someone who says "SMOKE!" I blow a huge cloud in their face. The typical response is, "Wow! I don't smell anything!"
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Still...theres always the positive sides as vaping reaches further into main stream..like this
I like to think of it as an "arrival" ...when mocked nationally
E-cigs spoofed on SNL.

CRAAAAAP! That means were mainstreem .

Ah well so much for my "counter cunture" daze .

I... I was feelin so "hip" sooo 'darksidey". Now SNL goes an spoofs e-cigs & makes em "manstreem".

<sigh> no more rebel me I guess, back to square & boring . Ok where'd I put my bowe-tie & hornrims. Now just waiting for the inevitable call from the folks on where they can score lemon-tea-dragonfruit 50/50 18mg e-juice. Ma on one of her visits sayin "honey you look tence, mayde you should vape 24mg today".

This was my last "cool" hoby. Now SNL has made it LAMESTREEM!?!

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
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Like burning out atomizers in a matter of days, or hours...






Someone (FDA, etc) really needs to do a comprehensive test so we ALL know what's in them. Then we can ALL speak more intelligently on the topic. "
First we need to test those doing the tests to see if they can actually do the testing in such a bipartisan way as to NOT TAINT the test results in favor of anything but the actual facts and nothing more. But NOOOOOO!! We will get tainted test results that will reflect the views of those paying for the tests. THAT is the American way.
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Funny thing is, when there's a booming battery story, the talking news heads all yip "the FDA really should regulate theese things". Uuuummmm... Underwriter's Labratories is who ya call for booming batteries. Sheesh!

Though the FDA makin sure our juice is what the vender says wouldn't be all bad.

But that's like asking your folks for a lil help on a school project, they tots take over, then ya get an F cause the Teach knows you didn't do it
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.. NOT TAINT ...
Isn't that a double negative?


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Funny thing is, when there's a booming battery story, the talking news heads all yip "the FDA really should regulate theese things". Uuuummmm... Underwriter's Labratories is who ya call for booming batteries. Sheesh!

Though the FDA makin sure our juice is what the vender says wouldn't be all bad.

But that's like asking your folks for a lil help on a school project, they tots take over, then ya get an F cause the Teach knows you didn't do it

Actually Ive seen alot of the "CE" markings
CE stands for Conformité Européenne, which is French for "European Conformity." A product in one of the controlled product categories cannot legally be sold in the EU unless it has passed the tests to receive the CE marking.

How that relates to a UL marking Im not really sure if the standards are related or even similar or not...then theres also FCC conformity as well...
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...then theres also FCC conformity as well...
Yeah, I'd hate to have my e-cig screw up the stellar new digital over the air TV reception the FCC gave me.

Made Verizon quite happy though.
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Well after looking into the CE thing more it looks like the chinese use of it is total BS anyway
bad enough the standard doesnt really apply for the most part the chinese have basically ripped off the symbol (almost identical) and have been saying its for Chinese Export...


theres more info on it here
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Well after looking into the CE thing more it looks like the chinese use of it is total BS anyway
bad enough the standard doesnt really apply for the most part the chinese have basically ripped off the symbol (almost identical) and have been saying its for Chinese Export...


theres more info on it here
Nice find.
Who would have guessed?? !!

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