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Old 08-21-2010, 10:41 AM   #201
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heres a working link, sorry for all the posts.....

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Old 08-21-2010, 10:46 AM   #202
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what i'll do is make a small test with (10 drops vg, 1 drop purified water, and ten drops 36mg pg) sound about right? what do you mean by "cutting" the 36mg juice? mxing it with the ingredients above right?

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That should be about 17mg/ml. Flavor will be cut but this is a good test for you to check your nic strength. Some people use flavor drops to spice up the flavor. One or two drops would be plenty for that size mix. But that will drop your nic down to 15 to 16mg/ml. Doubt you will notice the difference between 16 and 17mg/ml
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Old 08-21-2010, 10:55 AM   #203
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SmokeDigital: Make Your Own E-Juice - Do It Yourself (DIY)
Well, I've stayed away from making flavors from tobacco squeezins. Got away from any tobacco flavors for a while, but will mix in a little now. I just didn't want to start getting more tobacco chemicals than necessary

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Old 08-21-2010, 11:08 AM   #204
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ya i dont think ill try his method, just thought it deserved to be read. but my lil test came out good, just had to add 2 drops of water cause it was too thick for my syringe. i used menthol so even after diluting the flavor still came through and with the water added it seems to have a better taste. (more moisture to the taste buds) and twice as much vapor dues to addind the VG. the throat hit is a lil less which is good because i was more focused on the vapes.
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Old 08-24-2010, 02:36 PM   #205
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I've been making my own nic juice using Tasty Vapor doublers 0 nic doublers which is 4oz or 120ml. It cost $15 and $5 shipping. It seems to be an easier solution for me since you can request how much pg/vg percentage you want plus there's an option for more sweetener in your juice. from Tasty Vapor
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You can also request for more of a certain flavor to come out in the mix, such as more caramel flavor in the Cafe Machiato I ordered. I mix it with 100mg vg nic juice I got from Xtreme Vaping $18.95 for 100ml and cut it down to 30mg. So to make a 30ml bottle I used Todd Muller ejuice calculator: eJuice Recipe Calculator

The flavored TV juice I ordered has 20% vg 0 nic and the 100mg nic juice is 100% vg. Using the calculator I just plug in the nic base 100mg, then target nic level 30mg, then amount to create 30ml and 0 out the rest. It gave me 9.0 ml 100mg nic to mix with
15 ml of flavored TV nic juice.

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I went to Walmart to get some things but also walked down the baking aisle to see if I can find anything. I found Baker's imitation vanilla flavoring and saw that it was made of pg, vanillin, and ethyl vanillin. It also has sodium benzoate (preservative) and phosphoric acid. Well I bought it $2.29 for 8 fl oz, got home and put a couple squirts into my TV Cafe Machiato 30mg mix and well it was pretty good. I got online and found this site: faerie's finest

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extract assortments — 2 oz bottles of four flavor extracts

baker's basics flavor extract assortment
vanilla, lemon, orange and almond $13.95
all natural cake lover's flavor extract assortment
cinnamon, hazlenut, maple and rum $13.95
all natural special cookies flavor extract assortment
peppermint, anise, almond and lemon $13.95
all natural holiday flavors extract assortment
rum, pumpkin, eggnog and pie spice $13.95
old fashioned flavor extract assortment
maple, rum, butterscotch and caramel $13.95
all natural citrus delight flavor extract assortment
lemon, lime, orange and lemon-lime $13.95
all natural berry flavors extract assortment
blackberry, cherry, raspberry and strawberry $13.95
all natural floral flavors extract assortment
lavender, rose, jasmine and orange blossom $13.95
tropical flavors extract assortment
mango, coconut, pineapple and banana $13.95
nutty flavors extract assortment
almond, hazelnut, macadamia nut and black walnut $13.95
all natural spice flavors extract assortment
cinnamon, anise, nutmeg and ginger $13.95
all natural mint flavors extract assortment
peppermint, spearmint, double-mint and wintergreen $13.95
liquer flavors extract assortment
rum, amaretto, pina colada and creme de cafe $13.95
all natural natural vanillas extract assortment
vanilla, 2x vanilla, 4x vanilla and vanilla slurry $28.95
vanilla flavors extract assortment
vanilla, 2x clear vanilla, french vanilla and butter vanilla $13.95
custom flavor extract assortment
Would you like an assortment of flavors you do not see above?
Just order this item and then list any four of our single-strength
flavor extracts in "Assortment Choices" during checkout.

* All extracts and liquid flavors must include a preservative. We use either alcohol or propylene glycol for this purpose depending on the flavor. Both of these ingredients are FDA approved and are widely used in food products.
I also ordered a 15ml bottle of their blend of sucralose sweetener from Tasty Vapors for $2 but called Launa so they can ship it regular mail for .88 cents instead of $5 priority mail.

Lots of dessert flavors and made with pg. Time to start experimenting!

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Old 08-25-2010, 07:02 PM   #207
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cool ill check out wally world when i get the chance. the only thing i got is pure vanilla and its oil. cant use it.
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Chris, I'm using pure vanilla extract from walmart(Rodelle's 8oz about 5$)doesn't have oil base. I use it 50-50 with VG as a thinner in my coffee juices and just tried that thinner/mixer on some DIY juice with English Toffee as the nominal flavor: flavor+mixer+48 mg/ml nic juice; cut to the 12mg level. Pretty nice been hitting it all evening.
I've only used about 1/3 of the 8oz. since Feb. bikes
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Old 08-26-2010, 02:46 AM   #209
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mmmmm....english toffee. now i gotta drive to 7-Eleven and buy a Skor bar, thanks alot Bikes!!
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what i'll do is make a small test with (10 drops vg, 1 drop purified water, and ten drops 36mg pg) sound about right? what do you mean by "cutting" the 36mg juice? mxing it with the ingredients above right?

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that sounds right but 1-2 drops of additional flavoring would really pick it up, but its hard to flavor properly on such a small sample. 6 ml bottles work best for me.
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Old 08-27-2010, 05:27 AM   #211
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i do it in such a small test because im new to mixing and i dont wanna ruin alot of juice. plus if it sux i dont wanna be stuck with 5-10 ml of crap. but im getting better.
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i was the same way at first. now i get all of my stuff free from china because I buy wholesale each time I get a few people interested in buying an ecig kit. i make enough to support my habbit this way and they get much better deals the the malls and shops around here.
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Old 09-13-2010, 04:14 AM   #213
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I also ordered a 15ml bottle of their blend of sucralose sweetener from Tasty Vapors for $2 but called Launa so they can ship it regular mail for .88 cents instead of $5 priority mail.

Lots of dessert flavors and made with pg. Time to start experimenting!
careful buddy, that shit causes cancer in lab rats. i dont even use sweet'n'low in my tea let alone wanna vape it.
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try this site http://www.onestopdiyshop.com/produc...yl-Maltol.html
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Hope you guys are using a good eJuice Calculator. Don't turn your creation into a bottle of yucky juice or draw stuffer. Use precise measurements.
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Hope you guys are using a good eJuice Calculator. Don't turn your creation into a bottle of yucky juice or draw stuffer. Use precise measurements.

BUT...they don't work on Linux!!!

How about Windows 7?
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Sorry about Linux. Yes it does work on Windows 7, 32bit and 64bit.
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Old 10-08-2010, 07:50 AM   #219
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Juice for dripping, or juice for wicking?

The surface tension and viscosity of e-juice seems to be fairly consistent between the large suppliers. Whether PG, VG, or a mix, this helps to get a consistent vape from bottle to bottle. How do they do it? By testing viscosity and adjusting as necessary to get the same consistency batch after batch. The properties of the ingredients contribute to the final mix, but the properties get mixed up too. Huh? Thick VG that would take forever to wick in a CE2-XL, but wicks much the same when thinned to the same thickness as PG juice.

What's the best thickness to use? Depends on the wicking method your e-cig equipment uses and your vaping style.

Try a slightly thinner juice with the loooong CE2-XL and a thicker juice when dripping.
If you like a bomb-like vapor cloud, use a little thicker VG juice, but be prepared to wait for your next cloud opportunity. If you Hypervape and find your device running out and have to slow down, use thinner juice.
Or you could just vape two or three e-cigs in rotation.

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I've listened to a lot of you talk about e-juice flavors, and while flitting from one favorite flavor to another is fun, one day you will probably settle on one or two 'favorite flavors'.
Most smokers picked one brand and type of cigarette and smoked that for years, running from Quick-Stop to 7-Eleven when they were out of stock. So why can't you pick one flavor and stick with it? Marketing. New flavors comes out and you just have to try it. Order a small 20 to 30ml bottle, it's cheap, and try the next great sounding flavor. I did it. How about reviews on youtube? "This flavor puts out clouds of vapor, tastes like sex". Makes you want to order a bottle right now doesn't it? The problem? I think I have different taste buds than most of the popular on-line juice reviewers, but the biggest negative to chasing juice flavors is cost. Still cheaper than smoking, so what's the big deal?

The wife and I each go through about 4ml of 12 to 15mg/ml juice a day. That's each of us, and every day of the year. Between the two of us that's about 100 30ml bottles of juice.
That's 3 liters of e-juice a year.
That's $1000 a year if you only vaped bargain juice @ $10 a bottle. $2000 a year if you just have to have the really good $20 a bottle juice. Don't even think about the premium, mixed by a little old lady from Pasadena $30 stuff because we're getting close to the cost of cigarettes (in some states). The cost sort of sneaks up on you, bottle by bottle, flavor by flavor. Even more so if you have to pay shipping on multiple small orders. Add to this the cost of hardware, batteries, chargers, cartomizers, atomizers, carrying cases and annual cost of vaping goes up again. For some, not a problem. But there goes one of the benefits of vaping right out the window or maybe right out the computer to the internet describes it better. Do you spent as much or even more on vaping supplies than you did for smokes? Do you have a good excuse for doing so?

Excuses, everyone needs several. We're ex-smokers, we know how to play excuses. Like, I tried the gum, the patch, the plug, and just couldn't quit. I went from full flavor smokes down to super-duper-ultra-lities, what else do you want? I don't want to get into the mess of mixing my own juice. I don't know how, it's too complicated. Isn't it dangerous to mix your own juice? Oh, and, you really don't save that much mixing your own anyway. Got any good excuses? Lies. It's all Lies Mixing your own is easy, safer than bungee jumping, and CHEAP.

Many vapers already mix their own and have provided 'On-line Juice Calculators' if you need them. But you really don't, It's easier than that. You really don't need anything more than the Windows Calculator to add, subtract, multiply and divide. Knowing how to calculate percent (just like sales tax) helps.

In about a week or so from now I'm going to mix up about 300ml for the wife and about 300ml for me. That's more than a two month supply. When I do, I'll post every step from measuring the raw materials, to dispensing and steeping small bottles from this larger batch. It's not hard to do, and remember it's

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Welcome back,Rocky. +1 What JJ said.
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Excellent post, Rocky.

I'd love to see more DIY tips and techniques on Vapeatron.

I'm a bargain basement, comparison shopper myself and find it obscene when I compare two shops and one's selling at 100-200% markup and the other is selling at 1000-1500% markup for the same exact product.
Don't even get me started on the mall kiosks...
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