Easily Refill a Cartomizer

ecigarettes · 12-08-2009, 02:25 AM

advert trickster

Rocketman · 12-08-2009, 08:17 AM

I've sort of taken the 2 piece up to a 3 piece. I like the whistle tip in the end of the 808D-1. If you look at the picture in post #12 you will also see a little white line along one of the carts. I thought this was just a jpeg digital artifact. Nope, the cartomizers I have are wrapped with a black tyvek like material that peels off. A little alcohol to clean the glue and you have a stainless steel cart.

and the 801 soft tip stretches over the end of the 808. Still say the steel 808 cart gets pretty warm if you lip lock it, and I can't stand biting down on a steel tip, which is not a problem today, teeth are at home.

LeCig · 12-08-2009, 11:34 AM

I agree the steel casing is hard on your teeth. I do have clients who are used to having their cigarette in the mouth all day can't do that ... but at least they aren't choking on carbon monoxide.

I like the idea of the whistle tip, I'm currently looking for a source for them.

LeCig · 12-08-2009, 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by ecigarettes

advert trickster

At first I wasn't going to respond to you, but I will take the time to set you straight.

If you think this video showing folks on this forum is making us money your dead wrong. We might have gotten a couple of sales but your missing the point ... there is no supporting documentation from the manufactures on how to refill these things. In addition, we make less money by teaching people tips on how to increase the longevity of their cartomizer.

Now in regards to you:

Funny how you advertise "The original manufacturing electronic cigarettes" when we all know it is the Ruyan coporation that is. But then again you only sell knock offs don't you ... ah yes you do. Oh and by the way, proper english is "The original electronic cigarette manufacturer"

Your sir are the advert trickster. I'm sure you sell to suppliers and then advertise on these boards to the public ... cutting your suppliers throats. Your nothing but a second rate ecig company out trying to market your garbage to end users wishing you were a Ruyan, a greencig, a Kanger, or other leading companies that people know and trust. When was the last time you tried to educate your consumers on tips and tricks for you products?

That is one of the reasons we like professional classy companies like greencig who protects their suppliers; unlike the hacks out there who are killing the very same people who helped make them.

So next time you make a wise crack, think twice about it because I'm sure there are lots of people here that will back up my statements.

Note: He just had to make me do it folks LOL

Rocketman · 12-08-2009, 12:14 PM

One or two per customer would probably be plenty. Shame to trash a 901 cart, but oh well. They sort of last until you lose or swallow them (same thing).

What ever you do, don't let Snarky know I'm using a cartomizer

Rocketman · 12-08-2009, 12:20 PM

remember the vapor term I wouldn't define?

The Rocket, a non seller, appreciates the Helpful Vaporpimps (not a derogatory term) participating on this forum.

Hats off to LeCig (well a rhetorical hats off, it's just too much trouble to edit the avatar)

LeCig · 12-08-2009, 12:24 PM

LOL I'm sure snarky would harp on you for days if not weeks with the perverbial "I told you so"

LeCig · 12-08-2009, 12:25 PM

Vaporpimp is a compliment for sure

Hachiroku · 12-08-2009, 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by LeCig

Sent you 6 used ones:

3 D1s
3 D2s
1 new D2 Blank for your PT for xmas lol

I understand you can run them under hot water and rinse them out. I think you rinse and repeat like 5 times and you can restore them. You just let them dry out ... if you want to experiment with that.

The rest of them use a precision plasma cutter with a blunt tip so we can get a cross section of disection LMAO

Hey. I tried to dremel down one of the 808 attys to see if I could fit a 510 cart to it.
I dremeled down to the wire mesh material and still have to go more.

What happens when you give an OCD patient with a tech fixation electrical stuff to play with. You should see some of the computers I have around here. Good thing they can't talk...

I call my "home-made" laptops (network names) Frankenstein and Frankenstein-too...

Rocketman · 12-11-2009, 10:46 PM

breaking news:

NASA develops new high altitude rocket motor based on Chinese sketch found on ecig website. A spokesperson for NASA (speaking on condition of anonymity, anatomy, or is it animosity) said the rocket operates on pressure differentials developed in the motor casing and is more efficient than previous designs developed in the U.S.

There are no patent infringement, industrial intellectual property rights involved because the sketch was found within the public domain (youtube).

Rocketman · 12-12-2009, 04:05 PM

Man I hate this, but I might have some nice things to say about the cartomizer.
If you don't let it dry out (heard that somewhere before), I mean not even close to going dry, they just keep going, and going , and - - - .

Eventually I will probably have another one die or just be too old and feeble to vape. But after losing that first one, they seem to be durable. I doubt that they would make it as long as a 510 atty (for someone that doesn't kill a lot of attys) but they are definitely not single use attys. I'm using the 808D-1, made by "heck if I know".

The Rocket

and the beat goes on

Hachiroku · 12-12-2009, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Rocketman

Man I hate this, but I might have some nice things to say about the cartomizer.
If you don't let it dry out (heard that somewhere before), I mean not even close to going dry, they just keep going, and going , and - - - .

Eventually I will probably have another one die or just be too old and feeble to vape. But after losing that first one, they seem to be durable. I doubt that they would make it as long as a 510 atty (for someone that doesn't kill a lot of attys)
and the beat goes on

Arrrrrrrggggghhhhh....

nebraskapuffer · 12-12-2009, 05:25 PM

Originally Posted by Rocketman
I doubt that they would make it as long as a 510 atty (for someone that doesn't kill a lot of attys)
and the beat goes on

Arrrrrrrggggghhhhh....

Do you sometimes feel picked on Hach?

Stehle · 12-12-2009, 08:26 PM

Better him than me.

We be tight now... right my Cajun friend?

ecigarettes · 12-12-2009, 08:33 PM

what is attys mean???
i don't know "attys"

Rocketman · 12-12-2009, 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Stehle

Better him than me.

We be tight now... right my Cajun friend?

you all my buds.

It would be really boring watching the glue dry without you guys.
That and the "old movies on TV" tonight. Jimmy Stewart night

I'm comparing attymomizers and cartomizers and just wondering how long these will live.
A couple two dollar cartomizers and a two dollar 510 to 808 adapter might be something to toss in the next order.

nebraskapuffer · 12-12-2009, 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by ecigarettes

what is attys mean???
i don't know "attys"

Atty is atomizer. Batts or bats are batteries. Ask Kaye about a glossery in this forum. I think there is one explaining all the e-cig terms.

nebraskapuffer · 12-12-2009, 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Rocketman

Jimmy Stewart night

Rear Window?
Vertigo?
It's a Wonderful Life?
my favorite is "Winchester 73"

Rocketman · 12-12-2009, 10:28 PM

[quote=nebraskapuffer;

It's a Wonderful Life?
[/QUOTE]

nothing but rain,
Jimmy Stewart,

and one of the cats is expiring.
16 years old.

Hachiroku · 12-13-2009, 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by nebraskapuffer

Originally Posted by Rocketman
I doubt that they would make it as long as a 510 atty (for someone that doesn't kill a lot of attys)
and the beat goes on

Arrrrrrrggggghhhhh....

Do you sometimes feel picked on Hach?

I'm a bass player. I'm used to it...

"The worst bass player in Rock and Roll gets laid more than the best comedian"
I feel sorry for that comedian...

Hachiroku · 12-13-2009, 12:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Rocketman

nothing but rain,
Jimmy Stewart,

and one of the cats is expiring.
16 years old.

<DING!>

I missed it. One thing I like (I guess) a little better than old movies...Doctor Who...
Three hours worth.

Kaye · 12-13-2009, 01:36 AM

Any old Jimmy Stewart has a place in my heart but Doctor Who has a place in my brain; I'm a Dr. Who addict... also Torchwood, the Dr. Who offshoot. I've watched the last several seasons and am looking forward to both of them coming back on BBC weekly instead of just the specials. And gettilng to know the regenerated Doctor in 2010. I'd love to have that regeneration option: fresh, new body and same old quirky but entertaining mind!

Snarkyone · 12-13-2009, 06:53 AM

You people that are playing with the KR808D-1 carts need to check out the GreenCig carts and see the huge difference in them and in how long they last. I still have in use 8 of the original 10 that I ordered in early October and all of them have been refilled many times over with no loss of vapor or taste as of yet. They are pretty much impossible to scorch or burn like the KR808D-1 carts do, and they do seem to last a lot longer.

Many of you that have been here while are well aware of my opinion on the 2pc over the 3pc models so I won't bother beating that dead horse. I see where someone lives in state where hypo needles are controlled and I wanted to chime in that it was not a problem there are a few sites that sell safety hypo needles that are either plastic or blunt that should be perfectly legal especially the plastic ones.

I also have videos on how to refill them and have even started using a new technique by finding and using the hole that is in the bottom of that plastic inner cart on the GreenCig and inserting the needle from that end to fill up the cart instead of filling it from the atomizer end. It seems to work quite well although it does require taking the end cap and the gasket from the cart it is not that big of a deal to do.

Hachiroku · 12-13-2009, 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Snarkyone

You people that are playing with the KR808D-1 carts need to check out the GreenCig carts and see the huge difference in them and in how long they last. I still have in use 8 of the original 10 that I ordered in early October and all of them have been refilled many times over with no loss of vapor or taste as of yet. They are pretty much impossible to scorch or burn like the KR808D-1 carts do, and they do seem to last a lot longer.

You're talking to me, remember...?

Rocketman · 12-13-2009, 12:54 PM

I will have to try a GC cart.
One thing I noticed about the 808D-1 is it functions a little differently than most cartridges. I thought the little tube inside was interesting and after discussing this with a couple of colleagues at the Rocket Factory, it seems this functions as an orifice plate, creating a small negative pressure just past the exit point (about where the heater is). The double orifices at the tip end establish a constant pressure volume in the cylinder where the filler/liquid is. Air flow through the tube creates a small (very small) pressure differential across the tube cross section drawing fluid via capillary action to the heater and thru the center of the heater along with the air flow. The bottom half of the filler chamber is below the tube exit but it still draws fluid up to the heater. This is completely different than the drip pot, kerosene heater technology used in normal 3 piece uints. This is more like a ScramJet. The airflow path goes straight thru the 808D-1, you can look all the way thru it.

Is this the way the 808D-2 and GC cart works? I haven't tried them yet.

The Rocket

a closeup of the connector end of a 808D-1 cart. Wow, laser marking on a $2 part.