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05-06-2009, 09:00 PM
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#1 | | Administrator and Owner Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Philadelphia
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E-cigarettes spark debate
Fall River Herald News, USA - Deboarh Allard
Smeaton wasn't turning up her nose at the law by smoking in a public place, she was “vaping” on an electronic cigarette, or e-cigarette. A quick vapor that dissipated in seconds came off the metal tube when she puffed. There was no smoke or odor, ...
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05-08-2009, 02:34 AM
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#2 | | Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: South Philly
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| It was a good read both the article and the comments at least the bottom half of them. I can not stand how all the organizations insist on saying that ecigs are made to help quit smoking when they are not. | |
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05-08-2009, 09:48 AM
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#3 | | Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Vancouver, WA
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| I'm sure e-cigs were made to make a buck, and smoking cessation was not even a thought. But, considering the number of people who talk about cutting their nicotine to 0mg, and many others who have quit vaping later on too ... what's wrong with the organizations claiming that e-cigs can help smokers quit? | |
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06-11-2009, 03:39 PM
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#4 | | Vapin' Rebel Join Date: May 2009 Location: Illinois
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| Let's just face it...smoking analogs, or vaping is just not something non-smokers understand about or ever will.
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06-11-2009, 03:44 PM
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#5 | | Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Vancouver, WA
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| Forgot about this thread ... but found the answer to my question and thought I might share.
If the manufactures (or even the retailers for that matter) made claims that e-cigs would help you quit smoking, then the FDA would be required to investigate their claims and manufactures would then be required to submit their products for FDA review and approval.
Of course, now that the FDA might be regulating them anyways, my hope is that they'll be advertised and marketed as an alternative way to quit smoking. | |
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12-29-2010, 10:14 PM
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#6 | | Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Prince George,B.C. Canada
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| Wow,just read every word in the article and all the comments,What are these people so worried about, Oh Yeah,taxes? | |
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12-29-2010, 10:31 PM
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#7 | | Vapin' Rebel Join Date: May 2009 Location: Illinois
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| I now live in Iowa. A couple years ago the State raised cigarette taxes $1 per pack SUPPOSEDLY to get people to quit smoking. They later said 30% of smokers had quit - they "knew" this cuz cig sales in Iowa had dropped 30%. The next thing I hear about it on the news last January was "no 30% hadn't quit," instead they were buying from border states and online(the Pact Act ended that). The spokeswoman for the State wasn't concerned though she said because they could make up the lost tobacco taxes by raising the tax another dollar.
WTF?! Make up the lost tax dollars?! I thought they said the raise was to get people to QUIT smoking?!
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12-29-2010, 10:40 PM
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#8 | | Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Prince George,B.C. Canada
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| think that's what Canada's excuse was too, pack analogs is now $10. | |
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12-29-2010, 10:45 PM
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#9 | | Vapin' Rebel Join Date: May 2009 Location: Illinois
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Originally Posted by gmama55  think that's what Canada's excuse was too, pack analogs is now $10. | I think when people rob your convenience stores they should leave the money and just take the cigarettes! LOL!
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12-29-2010, 10:48 PM
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#10 | | Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Prince George,B.C. Canada
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| they do both,strong "underground" economy,analogs are precious here as I'm sure they are in U.S. | |
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12-29-2010, 11:43 PM
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#11 | | Darth Vaper Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Leftern Mass
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Originally Posted by gmama55 Wow,just read every word in the article and all the comments,What are these people so worried about, Oh Yeah,taxes? | What did you expect?!?! It's Massachusetts! We even voted NOT to lower our sales taxes! We LOVE taxes! TAX ME MORE, DEVAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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12-30-2010, 11:11 AM
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#12 | | spam again bacon ass Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Not China
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| I love NOT paying analog taxes anymore!
plus not contributing additional monies to this state makes me feel almost as good as not smoking.
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12-30-2010, 11:41 AM
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#13 | | Darth Vaper Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Leftern Mass
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Originally Posted by berger I love NOT paying analog taxes anymore!
plus not contributing additional monies to this state makes me feel almost as good as not smoking. |
Where's your sense of Patriotism?!?!
Deval has to pay all those in-state tuitions he granted for Illegals! C'MON, now!!!!
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12-30-2010, 11:47 AM
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#14 | | spam again bacon ass Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Not China
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| I have no Patriotism for your state......or mine for that matter
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12-30-2010, 11:56 AM
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#15 | | Darth Vaper Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Leftern Mass
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Originally Posted by berger I have no Patriotism for your state......or mine for that matter | Berger! I'm shocked SHOCKED to find you don't want to foot the bills for everyone!
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12-30-2010, 12:02 PM
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#16 | | spam again bacon ass Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Not China
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| Though, maybe I can register as an illegal alien in your state and get free education money. That sounds pretty good.
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12-30-2010, 12:48 PM
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#17 | | Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Arkansas
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Originally Posted by berger Though, maybe I can register as an illegal alien in your state and get free education money. That sounds pretty good. | Alien yes, illegal no  | |
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12-30-2010, 04:41 PM
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#18 | | Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: NJ - South Jersey
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Originally Posted by berger I love NOT paying analog taxes anymore!
plus not contributing additional monies to this state makes me feel almost as good as not smoking. | I 2nd that! | |
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12-30-2010, 05:40 PM
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#19 | | Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Arkansas
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Originally Posted by cooking girl I 2nd that! | I 3rd it! | |
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12-30-2010, 05:47 PM
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#20 | | spam again bacon ass Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Not China
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| I 4th it 
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12-30-2010, 05:50 PM
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#21 | | Darth Vaper Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Leftern Mass
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| I'm looking to leave the state...
__________________ Do you mind if I STEAM?!
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12-30-2010, 06:15 PM
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#22 | | spam again bacon ass Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Not China
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| Im thinking Texas no State Taxes or Arizona is now high on my list (bikes wont like that though)
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12-30-2010, 06:20 PM
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#23 | | Darth Vaper Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Leftern Mass
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Originally Posted by berger Im thinking Texas no State Taxes or Arizona is now high on my list (bikes wont like that though) | New Hampshire. The state motto on the license plates is "Live Free Or Die*", no state sales tax.
*If you own a home they say "Pay Through The Nose")
__________________ Do you mind if I STEAM?!
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12-30-2010, 06:28 PM
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#24 | | Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: West Texas/New Mexico
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| BK, Texas ain't big enuff for the both of us. Oh wait, it is.
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I don't always vape tobacco flavors, but when I do I prefer tres cincos. Keep vaping, my friend.
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12-31-2010, 04:04 PM
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#25 | | Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: NJ - South Jersey
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Originally Posted by berger I 4th it | Berger....you can't 4th it....you 1st'ed it | |
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