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03-03-2011, 01:49 PM
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#1 | | Vapo-Tized! Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Seattle
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| So, we all know some juices need to age a bit, sometimes sealed, sometimes open to evaporate off alcohol, etc...
Ever had a flavor or a mix that was completely transformed by the passage of time, for good- or for ill?
Most of my beloved chocolates benefited from a week or three standing, and my Tobaccos from Totally Green require several weeks behind them to mellow off the floral top notes and become more nut-buttery and rich for my pallet.
The real shocker for me has been the Bavarian Cream flavoring from Perfumer's Apprentice. Left tightly closed at (chilly) room-temp, it seems to be fine after several weeks. BUT- the stuff that I mixed with PG, VG, and nic, both as a single flavor, and with other flavorings, has gone seriously commando. It's delicate creamy taste within one week darkens into a smoky sweet (too sweet, imho) caramel flavor. Like... that heavy Kraft caramel you get chunks of to melt and coat apples with. (Thinking now of mixing in some with my Juicy Pear, in fact.) Not sure if I'd call it delicious- and I'm not sure what refriogerating it after mixing (before it turns all dark and caramelly) would do to slow this process, but it's a good thing I only added the Bav. Cream to about HALF of my mixes!
Oh yeah, and btw- I'm not dead yet. 
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03-03-2011, 01:58 PM
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#2 | | Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: In Your Dreams
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| I'm so glad you're not dead! We have been missing you, obviously! I have NEVER had any juice get stronger. Most of the juice that I have flavor complaints about, have lost their flavor over time.That's why I'm always afraid to "stock up". Therefore, I'm always worried about running out. It's a vicious cycle. | |
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03-03-2011, 02:17 PM
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#3 | | Couldnt take it anymore Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Mod impersonation carries a stiff penalty YKWYA
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| What about Vanilla....the holy grail....does it really exist????
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03-03-2011, 02:17 PM
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#4 | | Vapeatron Grammar Hammer Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Holding up a lamp post.
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Originally Posted by Flashwitt  So, we all know some juices need to age a bit, sometimes sealed, sometimes open to evaporate off alcohol, etc...
Ever had a flavor or a mix that was completely transformed by the passage of time, for good- or for ill?
Most of my beloved chocolates benefited from a week or three standing, and my Tobaccos from Totally Green require several weeks behind them to mellow off the floral top notes and become more nut-buttery and rich for my pallet.
The real shocker for me has been the Bavarian Cream flavoring from Perfumer's Apprentice. Left tightly closed at (chilly) room-temp, it seems to be fine after several weeks. BUT- the stuff that I mixed with PG, VG, and nic, both as a single flavor, and with other flavorings, has gone seriously commando. It's delicate creamy taste within one week darkens into a smoky sweet (too sweet, imho) caramel flavor. Like... that heavy Kraft caramel you get chunks of to melt and coat apples with. (Thinking now of mixing in some with my Juicy Pear, in fact.) Not sure if I'd call it delicious- and I'm not sure what refriogerating it after mixing (before it turns all dark and caramelly) would do to slow this process, but it's a good thing I only added the Bav. Cream to about HALF of my mixes!
Oh yeah, and btw- I'm not dead yet. | Glad you're back! I haven't gone through all of my juices yet, but after my recent shipment from a real peach, I'm fine for some time. 
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03-03-2011, 02:32 PM
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#5 | | Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: In Your Dreams
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Originally Posted by Dhileas Glad you're back! I haven't gone through all of my juices yet, but after my recent shipment from a real peach, I'm fine for some time. | Be sure to give us your reviews after you try them!  | |
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03-03-2011, 03:04 PM
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#6 | | Vapo-Tized! Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Seattle
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Originally Posted by berger What about Vanilla....the holy grail....does it really exist???? | Bavarian Cream has been the single most delightful, ethereal, warm-but-gentle vanilla I've found, and... well, you read the post. At this point, I'm treating it as a "be careful with this one" flavor, and only mixing it in tiny batches I can use up in a day or two. Will be trying the refrigerator method soon, though, to see if it delays the change.
Certainly worthy to note, though, if you're a fan of caramel! I like a little of the stuff now and then, but it's not my raison de'tere. But y'all have gotten an idea about my nose, and it's accuracy. I can tell you- the post-change Bav. Cream caramel is a good one!
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03-03-2011, 03:14 PM
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#7 | | Maverick Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: MICHIGAN
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03-03-2011, 05:11 PM
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#8 | | Darth Vaper Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Leftern Mass
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Originally Posted by Rose I'm so glad you're not dead! We have been missing you, obviously! I have NEVER had any juice get stronger. Most of the juice that I have flavor complaints about, have lost their flavor over time.That's why I'm always afraid to "stock up". Therefore, I'm always worried about running out. It's a vicious cycle. | I 'found' a bottle of Vt Vapor Tobacco that was, I think, my second bottle from them left at my other workstation for several months, and as it gets older the tobacco flavor just keeps getting better and better.
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03-03-2011, 05:12 PM
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#9 | | Darth Vaper Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Leftern Mass
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Originally Posted by berger What about Vanilla....the holy grail....does it really exist???? | You know what brand I'm going to tell you to try...
__________________ Do you mind if I STEAM?!
"well, you see Steam, we never had a rule about it because we didn't think anybody would ever DO it!"
I'm one lab accident away from being a supervillan. I knew that ahole wasn't from jersey...
Now will you all please leave while Dr Berger and I make out the Death Certificates! | |
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03-03-2011, 05:23 PM
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#10 | | Couldnt take it anymore Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Mod impersonation carries a stiff penalty YKWYA
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| They have a vanilla that actually tastes like a one? That I would try. Everything Ive tried upto this point ...well sucks. Just a little tiny aftertaste on exhale...and it smells so good in the bottle.
Which flavor?
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03-03-2011, 05:39 PM
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#11 | | Darth Vaper Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Leftern Mass
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Originally Posted by berger They have a vanilla that actually tastes like a one? That I would try. Everything Ive tried upto this point ...well sucks. Just a little tiny aftertaste on exhale...and it smells so good in the bottle.
Which flavor? | There's a reason why I 'shill' for VT Vapor! Almost every time, if it says it tastes like X, it TASTES like X
(Testing my Blackberry...)
__________________ Do you mind if I STEAM?!
"well, you see Steam, we never had a rule about it because we didn't think anybody would ever DO it!"
I'm one lab accident away from being a supervillan. I knew that ahole wasn't from jersey...
Now will you all please leave while Dr Berger and I make out the Death Certificates! | |
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03-03-2011, 05:50 PM
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#12 | | Vapeatron Grammar Hammer Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Holding up a lamp post.
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Originally Posted by Steampunk There's a reason why I 'shill' for VT Vapor! Almost every time, if it says it tastes like X, it TASTES like X
(Testing my Blackberry...) | :drumroll:
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03-03-2011, 05:56 PM
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#13 | | Darth Vaper Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Leftern Mass
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Originally Posted by Dhileas :drumroll: | I like Opera Mini...
__________________ Do you mind if I STEAM?!
"well, you see Steam, we never had a rule about it because we didn't think anybody would ever DO it!"
I'm one lab accident away from being a supervillan. I knew that ahole wasn't from jersey...
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03-03-2011, 08:58 PM
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#14 | | Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: In Your Dreams
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Originally Posted by Steampunk I 'found' a bottle of Vt Vapor Tobacco that was, I think, my second bottle from them left at my other workstation for several months, and as it gets older the tobacco flavor just keeps getting better and better. | I will try them again! I trust your opinion. I want to stock up and would love to have some juice that is better with age than those that fade away with age. Just like me! I'm aging like a fine wine.  | |
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03-03-2011, 09:00 PM
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#15 | | Darth Vaper Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Leftern Mass
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Originally Posted by Rose I will try them again! I trust your opinion. I want to stock up and would love to have some juice that is better with age than those that fade away with age. Just like me! I'm aging like a fine wine. | Feh...I'm aging like old beer!
__________________ Do you mind if I STEAM?!
"well, you see Steam, we never had a rule about it because we didn't think anybody would ever DO it!"
I'm one lab accident away from being a supervillan. I knew that ahole wasn't from jersey...
Now will you all please leave while Dr Berger and I make out the Death Certificates! | |
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03-03-2011, 09:03 PM
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#16 | | Couldnt take it anymore Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Mod impersonation carries a stiff penalty YKWYA
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| Im aging like fish...in the sun
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03-03-2011, 09:06 PM
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#17 | | Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: In Your Dreams
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Originally Posted by berger Im aging like fish...in the sun | Uhhh.. Get back in the water dumb ass! You're always only a flop away! | |
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03-03-2011, 09:08 PM
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#18 | | Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: In Your Dreams
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Originally Posted by Steampunk Feh...I'm aging like old beer! | Beer? Did someone say beer? I love beer! The older the better! | |
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03-03-2011, 09:10 PM
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#19 | | Darth Vaper Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Leftern Mass
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Originally Posted by Rose Beer? Did someone say beer? I love beer! The older the better! | OH BOY!!!!!!!!!!!!!
__________________ Do you mind if I STEAM?!
"well, you see Steam, we never had a rule about it because we didn't think anybody would ever DO it!"
I'm one lab accident away from being a supervillan. I knew that ahole wasn't from jersey...
Now will you all please leave while Dr Berger and I make out the Death Certificates! | |
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03-03-2011, 09:16 PM
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#20 | | Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: In Your Dreams
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Originally Posted by Steampunk OH BOY!!!!!!!!!!!!! | 
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03-03-2011, 09:38 PM
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#21 | | Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Michigan/USA
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| I like vanilla first thing in the morning but have to move onto something stronger as the day goes on.Like key lime or cherry.I refridgerate mine & the juice dosn't seem to change. I change. | |
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03-03-2011, 10:17 PM
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#22 | | Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: In Your Dreams
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Originally Posted by Gregger I like vanilla first thing in the morning but have to move onto something stronger as the day goes on.Like key lime or cherry.I refridgerate mine & the juice dosn't seem to change. I change. | You are a sweet heart! Thanks for your suggestion! I have begun to refrigerate my juice. We will see how that goes... | |
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03-04-2011, 02:40 AM
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#23 | | Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: TN.
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Originally Posted by gmav44 As for steeping necessity, Halo Freedom for absolute sure, Backwoods being another. | BWB is great in a T Tank.
Hey Flash, glad to see you around.
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03-04-2011, 02:43 AM
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#24 | | Vapeatron Grammar Hammer Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Holding up a lamp post.
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Originally Posted by topecigsunny | You reek of monkey tracks. I would recommend eating fifty-seven and a half flatulence bubbles from the Dispholidus typus. Only then may your rhetoric make nose hairs quiver in anticipation.
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03-04-2011, 05:59 AM
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#25 | | Graphic Vaper Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Central Florida
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Originally Posted by Flashwitt So, we all know some juices need to age a bit, sometimes sealed, sometimes open to evaporate off alcohol, etc...
Ever had a flavor or a mix that was completely transformed by the passage of time, for good- or for ill?
Oh yeah, and btw- I'm not dead yet. | I know what you mean about some flavors turn dark faster than others, and some never seem to turn dark. I have some peach menthol I mixed a while back and it is still just about clear, yet a few other flavors have turned fairly dark in the same amount of time.
It seems that most of the time it is a flavor that involves vanilla or cream type flavors. I have some cherry cheesecake (Lorann) that has turned real dark in the last month or so. The PA french vanilla has turned darker also, but still tastes like french vanilla (so far). I have not noticed any drastic flavor changes, (yet) but I usually mix in small batches of 3 or 6 mill so they often don't last for months on end unless I didn't like the flavor to begin with.
Glad to see you are still alive and kicking Flash
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