Draft E-mail to Fox news

MichaelMurder · 04-06-2010, 12:24 AM

Gimme a hand guys this is what i have so far. If you can throw me some links and idea's it will be greatly appreciated I'm planning on sending this out tomorrow.

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My apologies if this is unorganized. Grammar and composition are not my strong points.

I am a moderator for the E-Cigarette forum. Vapeatron.com. The forum was created to help educate people on Personal Vaporizers or E-Cigs. Our small forum alone has over 1,200 members, some of the larger forums have a member base exceeding 34,000.

Electronic cigarettes are a personal vaporizing device that is used to turn a nicotine containing fluid into a vapor that can be inhaled. It can be used to replace the use of tobacco cigarettes or possibly ween you from tobacco all together.

There is a plethora of information on these devices scouring the web. Here are a few links: Vapeatron.com, E-cigarette forum, Esmoking.net, Ecigarettes365.com and many more.

The real purpose of this e-mail is to educate the public on electronic cigarettes, the benefits, and how strongly the FDA is fighting to permanently ban these products and they may be winning. There are many people currently vaping who have quit tobacco cigarettes who are feeling much healthier.

In early 2009 the FDA started seizing imported shipments of electronic cigarettes. The FDA had made a case that it was in their authority to regulate drugs and non related medical devices. In return they were sued by several large E-cig retailers in the US. On january 14 2010 U.S. dist. judge Richard J. Leon ruled that they did not have the authority to seize these shipments. The court cases have been ongoing. In a recent ruling on March 31 2010 in the U.S Court of Appeals the importation may be banned permanently(http://www.pr-inside.com/e-cigarette...y-r1811226.htm)

In the previous article it is described that Electronic cigarettes cause "a wide variety of potentially serious symptoms "including racing pulse, dizziness, slurred speech, mouth ulcers, heartburn, coughing, diarrhea, and sore throat."" these are all symptoms that are present with use of nicotine or more specifically over use. Notice cancer is not listed anywhere in there. Cancer was not listed due to the fact that it is not caused by the use of nicotine but cause by more than several of the many other chemicals found in.......Tobacco. I probably don't need to get into the list of over 4000 chemicals in a tobacco cigarette. When an electronic cigarette only has approximately 100 most of which were labeled safe for human consumption. Some of the samples that were tested with or without nicotine but contained tobacco extracts or flavorings did still contain some of the carcinogens found in tobacco. The FDA had also found traces of Diethylene Glycol or DEG in a minute trace amounts from a sample from a retailer that most vapers stay away from. DEG btw is found in industrial anti-freeze and solvents. But the information on that is another story.

In 2009 a petition was started to keep electronic cigarettes availabe the goal was for only 10.000 signatures and was exceeded. http://www.thepetitionsite.com/1/kee...ttes-available

I have been Vapeing for 2 months feel a million times healthier than i did while smoking have more energy and stamina than i did before. I also no longer buy tobacco products. E-cigs are actually documented at a greater than 50% quit rate. http://tobaccoanalysis.blogspot.com/

http://www.fda.gov/NewsEvents/Newsro.../ucm173222.htm Warning from FDA Diethylene glycol was found in a trace amount from a retailer most vapers stay away from

http://www.fda.gov/NewsEvents/Public.../ucm173146.htm FDA Test results

http://www.ecigexpress.com/blog/

I don't know what information i need to get for you to make this a viable news tip. I can tell you this. There are thousands of Americans who use electronic cigarettes as a safer alternative to tobacco that will more than likely revert back to the cancer causing tobacco and Hundreds of retailers who will be going out of business if the FDA wins their appeal. If you point me in the direction of what you need to make the report i can get it. But the public should know that the safest alternative to tobacco other than not smoking is about to no longer be available for import.

Rocketman · 04-06-2010, 12:31 AM

M&M,
how about referencing the "10,000 signature petition" and the over 1200 members of just this forum, or the over 34000 members of another large forum.

MichaelMurder · 04-06-2010, 12:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Rocketman

M&M,
how about referencing the "10,000 signature petition" and the over 1200 members of just this forum, or the over 34000 members of another large forum.

Can you get me a link for the petition

Hachiroku · 04-06-2010, 12:39 AM

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Originally Posted by MichaelMurder

Gimme a hand guys this is what i have so far. If you can throw me some links and idea's it will be greatly appreciated I'm planning on sending this out tomorrow.

Hmmm...a study I saw said that there were carcinogens present in samples that either contained nicotine or were flavored using natural tobacco in the flavoring, even though they were 0 nic juices. May want to remove that.

It appears as though heating nicotine at all produces some carcinogens (um, where does that leave spaghetti sauce...?) But, of the 0 nic juices that were tested, some of the tobacco flavored juices, and NONE of the other flavors produced carcinogens found in nicotine.

You might want to amend that part in your original draft. Feel free to use the above.

Give me a day or two. Writing was my best point in school.

Rocketman · 04-06-2010, 12:41 AM

http://www.thepetitionsite.com/1/kee...ttes-available

something else

http://tobaccoanalysis.blogspot.com/

Lots of "OLD Stuff" here in the news section of Vapeatron Mike.
I bet a couple of the really old timers would be a great help.
Then there's our publicist PuffDaddy.
He can find anything about "NEWS"

R

MichaelMurder · 04-06-2010, 12:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Rocketman

http://www.thepetitionsite.com/1/kee...ttes-available

something else

The Rest of the Story: Tobacco News Analysis and Commentary

I dunno do we have a more recent petition that wasn't closed last year

Rocketman · 04-06-2010, 12:49 AM

They met the 10,000 goal. The UK started one.

Rocketman · 04-06-2010, 12:52 AM

Tobacco products in pretty colors and flavors
Camel Snus - Tobacco Products

and they claim e-cigs appeal to kids.

You are going to need a couple of days to prepare a impenetrable defense. Big shot here.

MichaelMurder · 04-06-2010, 01:04 AM

Off to pick up my wife. I'll be back on in a few

MichaelMurder · 04-06-2010, 01:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Rocketman

Tobacco products in pretty colors and flavors
Camel Snus - Tobacco Products

and they claim e-cigs appeal to kids.

You are going to need a couple of days to prepare a impenetrable defense. Big shot here.

I'll take the time to get it right maybe tomorrow is a bit hasty. I would just like to get it to the news and on tv before it's too late

MichaelMurder · 04-06-2010, 03:33 AM

Think I'm gonna head to to bed and work on this tomorrow with a clear.......?!?head?!? Hmm redundant lol

Dwellsouth · 04-06-2010, 08:02 PM

Awesome poll...ask and you can probably use it too.

E-Cigarette Forum - View Poll Results

bigslick83 · 04-06-2010, 10:38 PM

lot of good points hit in the letter.
maybe add in that if ecigs are legal they stand to take away great profit margins from tobacco companies and pharmacutical companies that have the same market share. (smoking tobacco or stop smoking products)

you could find a link to the FDA study that exposed the fact that e cigs deliver carcenegens similar to those present in the patch or gum.

One thing that might help is to google "how to write a press release" The better you fit the press release format, the less a journalist or editor has to do to make it ready for the public. (I have heard some are notorisly lazy and when they need some filler, they just grab whatever looks good and turn it in)

MichaelMurder · 04-07-2010, 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by bigslick83

you could find a link to the FDA study that exposed the fact that e cigs deliver carcenegens similar to those present in the patch or gum.

THere is a link to that in the list at the end. I didnt' find the more detailed one. But it was not all e-cigs. Only those that were using a tobacco extract or flavoring both with or without nicotine

MichaelMurder · 04-09-2010, 07:49 PM

This is going to be the final draft thank you for all the help everyone. Hachi thank you again for going above and beyond.

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Good Day:

My name is Michael Turner, I am a moderator for an E-Cigarette forum on the Internet called Vapeatron.com. This forum was created to help educate people on Personal Vaporizers or E-Cigarettes and to allow our members to share experiences, tips, and help inform themselves and others about E_Cigs. Our small forum alone has over 1,200 members, while some of the larger forums have member bases exceeding 34,000.

An electronic cigarette is a personal vaporizing device that is used to turn a fluid into a vapor resembling cigarette smoke that can be inhaled. It can be used to replace the use of tobacco cigarettes or possibly wean people from tobacco all together. The liquids used in the personal vaporizer may or may not contain nicotine, according to the user's preference. Many of our members have begun by using these fluids, or, “E Juices”, as they are known, with nicotine added to them to simulate the nicotine delivered by a regular cigarette, and have gone on to further reduce, and in some cases, completely eliminate nicotine altogether.

It must be noted that, although the personal vaporizing experience is very close to that of smoking a tobacco cigarette to the user, there is no smoke at all, and hence, no smell and none of the usual by-products produced by cigarettes that are detectable by other people in close proximity to the user. This is based solely on personal experiences or our members, as there have been no studies on the effects of 'second hand vapor' that may be cited here. Suffice it to say some of our users have reported using a personal vaporizer near people who are allergic to tobacco smoke with no ill effects to the bystanders. As a matter of fact, a number of people who do not, or who have never smoked reported a pleasant smell, often likened to maple syrup, cotton candy or vanilla extract.

There is a plethora of information available on these devices found by scouring the web. Here are a few links: Vapeatron.com, E-cigarette forum, Esmoking.net, Ecigarettes365.com and many more.

The real purpose of this e-mail is to educate the public on electronic cigarettes, the benefits, and how strongly the FDA is fighting to permanently ban these products and they may be winning. There are many people currently vaping who have quit tobacco cigarettes who are feeling much healthier.

In early 2009 the FDA started seizing imported shipments of electronic cigarettes. The FDA had made a case that it was in their authority to regulate drugs and non related medical devices. In return they were sued by several large E-cig retailers in the US. On January 14 2010 U.S. dist. judge Richard J. Leon ruled that they did not have the authority to seize these shipments. The court cases have been ongoing. In a recent ruling on March 31 2010 in the U.S Court of Appeals the importation may be banned permanently(E-Cigarette Imports Banned Indefinitely // Court of Appeals Strongly Sides With FDA, Reports ASH)

In the previous article it is described that Electronic cigarettes cause "a wide variety of potentially serious symptoms "including racing pulse, dizziness, slurred speech, mouth ulcers, heartburn, coughing, diarrhea, and sore throat."" these are all symptoms that are present with use of nicotine or more specifically over use, and are similar symptoms reported by tobacco users.

To this date there has been no link to the use of e-cigarettes and cancer, but there is also not enough data at this time to confirm or deny that.

I probably don't need to get into the list of over 4000 chemicals in a tobacco cigarette. When an electronic cigarette only has approximately 100 most of which were labeled safe for human consumption. Some of the samples that were tested with or without nicotine but contained tobacco extracts or flavorings did still contain some of the carcinogens found in tobacco. The FDA had also found traces of Diethylene Glycol or DEG in a minute trace amounts from a sample from a retailer that most "vapers" stay away from. DEG is often found in industrial anti-freeze and solvents that makers of quality e-juice do not use. But the information on that is another story.

In 2009 a petition was started to keep electronic cigarettes available. The goal was for only 10.000 signatures and this target was exceeded. http://www.thepetitionsite.com/1/kee...ttes-available

I have been “Vaping” for 2 months feel a great deal healthier than I did while smoking tobacco products. I have more energy and stamina than before. I also no longer buy tobacco products. E-cigs are actually documented at a greater than 50% quit rate. The Rest of the Story: Tobacco News Analysis and Commentary

http://www.fda.gov/NewsEvents/Newsro.../ucm173222.htm Warning from FDA Diethylene glycol was found in a trace amount from a retailer most vapers stay away from

http://www.fda.gov/NewsEvents/Public.../ucm173146.htm FDA Test results

Electronic Cigarette

I don't know what information i need to get for you to make this a viable news tip. I can tell you this. There are thousands of Americans who use electronic cigarettes as a safer alternative to tobacco that will more than likely revert back to the cancer causing tobacco and Hundreds of retailers who will be going out of business if the FDA wins their appeal. If you point me in the direction of what you need to make the report i can get it. But the public should know that the safest alternative to tobacco other than not smoking is about to no longer be available for import.

The use of electronic cigarettes is in it's infancy, but when one weighs the effects of smoking tobacco products against the effects of electronic cigarettes the e cig is the clear winner. Users have reported feeling healthier, as I have, and also increased breathing ability, better sense of smell, clearer sinuses and considerable less effects on overall health than when they used regular tobacco products. It is our opinion that the FDA should investigate the effects of e cigarettes more thoroughly than they have to this point before banning them altogether. As noted, the FDA has based this ban solely on the effects of nicotine and for no other reason. Perhaps this ban has come at the urging of tobacco producing states in an effort to retain their hold on people who find themselves addicted to nicotine. Our opinion is that we would like to have the option of being able to use a product that seems to have a lot fewer chemicals and aftereffects than regular cigarettes.

Other members from my forum are talking of attempting to contact their local Fox news departments with a similar letter. This e-mail is actually a compilation of work from several members of Vapeatron.com.

Dwellsouth · 04-09-2010, 07:55 PM

Thank you Mr. Murder!

Rocketman · 04-09-2010, 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Dwellsouth

Thank you Mr. Murder!

Ditto, make a release statement in your post If you wouldn't mind others using this. Couple of typos (but Dwell is our professional proof reading).
I Like it Mike.
Rockei

Dwellsouth · 04-09-2010, 08:25 PM

OK so I edited the typos mostly...since the swamp er rocket man said I had to...
This is Michael Murder's...not mine.

Good Day:

My name is Michael Turner; I am a moderator for an Electronic Cigarette forum on the Internet called Vapeatron.com. This forum was created to help educate people on Personal Vaporizers or E-Cigarettes and to allow our members to share experiences, tips, and help inform themselves and others about E-Cigs. Our small forum alone has over 1,200 members, while some of the larger forums have member bases exceeding 34,000.

An electronic cigarette is a personal vaporizing device that is used to turn a fluid into a vapor resembling cigarette smoke that can be inhaled. It can be used to replace the use of tobacco cigarettes or possibly wean people from tobacco all together. The liquids used in the personal vaporizer may or may not contain nicotine, according to the user's preference. Many of our members have begun by using these fluids, or, “E Juices”, as they are known, with nicotine added to them to simulate the nicotine delivered by a regular cigarette, and have gone on to further reduce, and in some cases, completely eliminate nicotine altogether.

It must be noted that, although the personal vaporizing experience is very close to that of smoking a tobacco cigarette to the user, there is no smoke at all, and hence, no smell and none of the usual by-products produced by cigarettes that are detectable by other people in close proximity to the user. This is based solely on personal experiences or our members, as there have been no studies on the effects of 'second hand vapor' that may be cited here. Suffice it to say some of our users have reported using a personal vaporizer near people who are allergic to tobacco smoke with no ill effects to the bystanders. As a matter of fact, a number of people who do not, or who have never smoked reported a pleasant smell, often likened to maple syrup, cotton candy or vanilla extract.

There is a plethora of information available on these devices found by scouring the web. Here are a few links: Vapeatron.com, E-cigarette forum, Esmoking.net, Ecigarettes365.com and many more.

The real purpose of this e-mail is to educate the public on electronic cigarettes, the benefits, and how strongly the FDA is fighting to permanently ban these products and they may be winning. There are many people currently vaping who have quit tobacco cigarettes who are feeling much healthier.

In early 2009 the FDA started seizing imported shipments of electronic cigarettes. The FDA had made a case that it was in their authority to regulate drugs and non-related medical devices. In return they were sued by several large E-cig retailers in the US. On January 14 2010 U.S. dist. judge Richard J. Leon ruled that they did not have the authority to seize these shipments. The court cases have been ongoing. In a recent ruling on March 31 2010 in the U.S Court of Appeals the importation may be banned permanently(E-Cigarette Imports Banned Indefinitely // Court of Appeals Strongly Sides With FDA, Reports ASH)

In the previous article it is described that Electronic cigarettes cause "a wide variety of potentially serious symptoms "including racing pulse, dizziness, slurred speech, mouth ulcers, heartburn, coughing, diarrhea, and sore throat."" these are all symptoms that are present with use of nicotine or more specifically over use, and are similar symptoms reported by tobacco users.

To this date there has been no link to the use of e-cigarettes and cancer, but there is also not enough data at this time to confirm or deny that.

I probably don't need to get into the list of over 4000 chemicals in a tobacco cigarette. When an electronic cigarette only has approximately 100 most of which were labeled safe for human consumption. Some of the samples that were tested with or without nicotine but contained tobacco extracts or flavorings did still contain some of the carcinogens found in tobacco. The FDA had also found traces of Diethylene Glycol or DEG in a minute trace amounts from a sample from a retailer that most "vapers" stay away from. DEG is often found in industrial anti-freeze and solvents that makers of quality e-juice do not use. But the information on that is another story.

In 2009 a petition was started to keep electronic cigarettes available. The goal was for only 10.000 signatures and this target was exceeded. http://www.thepetitionsite.com/1/kee...ttes-available

I have been “Vaping” for 2 months feel a great deal healthier than I did while smoking tobacco products. I have more energy and stamina than before. I also no longer buy tobacco products. E-cigs are actually documented at a greater than 50% quit rate. The Rest of the Story: Tobacco News Analysis and Commentary

http://www.fda.gov/NewsEvents/Newsro.../ucm173222.htm Warning from FDA Diethylene glycol was found in a trace amount from a retailer most vapers stay away from

http://www.fda.gov/NewsEvents/Public.../ucm173146.htm FDA Test results

Electronic Cigarette

I don't know what information I need to get for you to make this a viable news tip. I can tell you this. There are thousands of Americans who use electronic cigarettes as a safer alternative to tobacco that will more than likely revert back to the cancer causing tobacco and Hundreds of retailers who will be going out of business if the FDA wins their appeal. If you point me in the direction of what you need to make the report I can get it. But the public should know that the safest alternative to tobacco other than not smoking is about to no longer be available for import.

The use of electronic cigarettes is in its infancy, but when one weighs the effects of smoking tobacco products against the effects of electronic cigarettes the e cig is the clear winner. Users have reported feeling healthier, as I have, and also increased breathing ability, better sense of smell, clearer sinuses and considerably less effects on overall health than when they used regular tobacco products. It is our opinion that the FDA should investigate the effects of e cigarettes more thoroughly than they have to this point before banning them altogether. As noted, the FDA has based this ban solely on the effects of nicotine and for no other reason. Perhaps this ban has come at the urging of tobacco producing states in an effort to retain their hold on people who find themselves addicted to nicotine. Our opinion is that we would like to have the option of being able to use a product that seems to have a lot fewer chemicals and aftereffects than regular cigarettes.

Other members from my forum are talking of attempting to contact their local Fox news departments with a similar letter. This e-mail is actually a compilation of work from several members of Vapeatron.com.

Hachiroku · 04-09-2010, 08:28 PM

Hopefully this will go national and actually FORCE the government to take action based on RESULTS rather than a certain Senator calling for the ban. We may lose, but hopefully we will have our "day in court", and perhaps even win in the fight. Then some tobacco company will take over, produce the hell out of it and overcharge, but at least, if that does happen, we win!

LeCig · 04-09-2010, 08:53 PM

I was thinking a pitchfork party might be more convienient at this point.

Hachiroku · 04-09-2010, 09:20 PM

Ypu've been listening to Glenn Beck again!

LeCig · 04-09-2010, 09:32 PM

LOL - Actually he's a covert op. Don't trust the man. Alex Jones is more my speed for conspiracy stuffium

Rocketman · 06-13-2010, 09:35 PM

now just what does this have to do with e-mails to Fox?

???

Hachiroku · 06-13-2010, 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Rocketman

now just what does this have to do with e-mails to Fox?

???

If you said "nothing", you get a free Trailer Park.

Oh. It's you. Never mind...

TrueSmoker · 07-19-2010, 07:01 PM

I am the Author of the Ecig petition with the 10k signatures so if you need access to any documents like copies of sigs etc to help I can export it for you.