neakybird1

Okay, I got the disposable 510 today and I really like the vapor but there is no throat hit at all really. The disposable has an automatic battery so could that be the difference? I have heard that the throat hit on these is superb.
It comes with a cartridges and an atomizer and a usb charger which is nice. I also got the PCC which I like but I don't know if it will work with the Smoke Stik yet.
So...what do you all think of the throat hit issue? Can that be due to the type of juice or is it always dependent on the cig itself?

Stehle

Might be... what nic strength?

My 510 disposers hit decent in the past.

JohnnyJames

You sure that folks were referring to a cheap clone 510 when talking about superb throat hit? Those disposables are best used as a good way to introduce folks to e-cigs and the style and operation of a 510. I always harp on it but it's a Joye 510 that raised the bar for vapor and throat hit, not all the cheaper semi-clones that came later. Also note if it's the typical $9.95 disposable floating around do not use the provided charger for any other e-cig battery. It's not charger with any type of circuitry to determine when to stop, it's just a straight power supply. You'll fry a real Joye 510 battery.

Here's the folks that started it all.

electronic cigarette,e-cigarette,Joye Technology

neakybird1

Yeah, I think you are right, it probably is a knock off but I do like the easy draw and vapor so I will have to get the real thing now.

40bikes

JJ now I get it, I wasn't aware that those chargers were single purpose. In the last two weeks I have lost 5-510 batts and couldn't figure what I was doing wrong. I have 4 other charges and two of those and was using them interchangably. How about going the other way, my two disposable batts are still good, looks like those batts can be charged on anything. What do you think? Thanks bikes

WitchWay

The disposable batts have a built in cut off to know when to stop charging. The disposables will charge on a regular Joye 510 charger but may not get fully charged because of built in cut off in the Joye charger. I have charged the disposables on the Joye charger and it works, but if it gets fully charged or not , I can't tell the difference. And as you have learned the hard way, you do not want to charge other batteries on the dispoable charger.

For what it's worth... I do not like the auto battery that comes with the disposable, but I love the atty. I use the dispoable atty on a Joye manual battery. Hubby on the other hand loves the auto battery from the disposable, but likes the Joye atty better so uses the Joye atty on the auto battery from the disposable. So it all depends on your tastes.

6 weeks with both the disposable kits and the real Joye 510 kits and all batteries and attys are all still working perfectly. As far as quality the disposables are lasting the same as the Joye ones for us. Hubby and Dad-In-Law use the 510s exclusively. I only use my 510 a few times a day to drip higher nic juice when I need a good nic fix. Other than that, I have switched to using cartomizers on a Bartleby box mod.

Rocketman

Awww, come on folks, take the time to read.
(gonna fuss at you bikes)

The thread for the disposables discussed compatibility of the battery/charger and other 510 products. There is even a "fine Print" disclaimer in the ad. Don't read the fine print?
That's why people get stuck with a new jelly flavor coming in the mail every month
Read the fine print, scan this or another forum for info, even if it means going back 150 posts.

OK, now to fuss at everyone.

Juice, e-cigs, safety, good deals, bad deals, scan the threads. I hate to come across as a vaping 'oldtimer' even though chronologically I quality, but each new thread started with a question (and no there are no bad questions), but each new thread tells me that maybe, just maybe, someone didn't scan the info already posted. One of the reasons I stay glued to this forum is it is easy to navigate. But it's getting harder.

Rocket

Rocketman

Well, maybe that was a little harsh. The post about the charger/battery for the disposable was made 12/1/09, before a lot of you came to this forum. There is a lot of info, sometimes gets to be a little obsolete, but a lot of good reading none the less.

I like to add info to an existing thread, especially if it has valuable information in it, rather than start a new thread. My method, maybe not the best, but some of the "other" forums have so many threads, I get lost, can't find info.

Nice thing though, I can rant and rave, post Rocket Humor, and not get tossed out on my ear (knock on wood), - - - - YET

The Rocketman,
Love you all, keep on vapin.

Stehle

It might be a clone, but the atti that came with my disposable ROCKS!

The batteries I just keep throwing in a drawer for backups someday.

40bikes

I've got one manual left of the 5 I've bought since starting. AND all of the auto disposables I bought around Christmas as gifts and the 2 I'm using are all working, zero failure rate. to tell every one the truth the one I use w/o fail and charge twice a day
is my 4081 mall mishap. Good vapor moderate TH works and provides a sturdy test bed for weird recipes. Not afraid to use it, Expect it to fail at any time and it has already paid for itself in unsmoked analogs even though I paid $80 to much. I talked to Mark at Mad Vapes and he hopes his new order of disposable 510s will be in this week, I'm in. bikes

JohnnyJames

I think it's been explained now. The word 'charger' always get thrown around a lot. Take cell phone 'chargers', truth be known they aren't chargers at all, they are simply power supplies. They feed power to your phone which contains it's own charging circuit. It is this circuit which determines when the battery is charged and when to cut-off the power. The disposable's 'charger' is just a power supply. The batts themselves determine the cut-off, It is probably just the typical PCB type protection circuit found in protected batteries which probably can't stand up to many cut-offs hence the relative short number of charge cycles. This had to be the cheapest solution.

The disposables seem to be a Boge/Dekang product. I have no idea why MadVapes chose to go with SLB/DSE for his other 510 offerings.

I'd like to try Boge's 2 piece cartomizers, maybe someone already has.

Disposable atomizer e-cigarette(FDA registered,GMP,ISO13485,SGS) Manufacturer exporting direct from China (Mainland)

Hachiroku

Where'd you get it, if you don't mind...

Hachiroku

I asked him about this. I have one of the other attys that he says did not come off a disposable. It has a big wire mesh, very wide and high, and I have been using it for...are you ready....drum roll please...TEN DAYS and it's still kickin'!!! So I wrote him since he was out and he said he ordered more but he got the SLBs instead. The SLBs are also a higher resistance, 3.4 instead of 2.7, so they should stand up to my mods better. I ordered 2, I'm going to try one immediately with a 4.2V mod I use in the car and see how it works.

Imagine this: if it lasted me TEN days, how long would it last for a NORMAL person!!!

neakybird1

I do agree with you but when I search for answers I find so many times that the use of the lingo is confusing and I am not sure what is being said. I am getting better at figuring this out but there are times when the original question gets lost in all the modification talk and I have no clue what that means. I am sure as time goes on I will understand it better and I will try harder but until then I have no choice but to ask again. Having said that I do understand your frustration. On forums I use that pertain to things I have knowledge of I find the same frustration.

WitchWay

Do you know if anyone besides the manufacturer is selling these?

Dwellsouth

It took me a while to even figure out how/where to search... Down in the Forum Tools on the bottom right, go to advanced search and make sure to click the button so you see the POSTS with your search terms in them (not just the thread) and that may help. I really only figured that out a couple of weeks ago. I also try not to abbreviate if I can help it because I confuse my own self that way too!

neakybird1

Thanks, I will try that and hope it helps!

Stehle

I got a few from Mark at MadVapes; top notch products & service; no doubt I'll be ordering more.

JohnnyJames

Nope. It's always hard to tell exactly and many suppliers don't like to reveal their source. But with cartomizers there often seems to be conflicting opinions on taste, quality control etc. Just like with 510's. Many suppliers clearly state they sell Joye Tech, others just beat around the bush and sell '510'.