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Old 10-23-2011, 05:24 AM   #1
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Darwin by Evolv-_mg_6718.jpgDarwin by Evolv-darwin5.jpg

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Device Dimensions: Length 5 5/8", Width 1 1/8", Thickness 4/8". (without an atomizer or cartomizer)
Lcd Dimensions: 1 3/8" by 3/8" visible.
Lcd reads volts, amps, ohms of carto or atomizer, and remaining battery power.
Capable of being used as a pass through.
Contains a li-poly battery, which does not hold memory so the pass through option does not cause damage to the battery.
4.2 watts to 12.7 watts. (3.3 volts to 12.8 volts)
1800mah battery
aircraft anodized aluminum.
American Made

Mod note: according to Brandon at evolv current Darwin model is a pair of Lipo 900 mah cells (total 1800 mah) in parallel and requested it be described as "power regulated" not VV and that current limits at 6 amps


Warranty:

2 year warranty on the device itself.
1 year warranty on the built in battery.
$25 to replace the battery if needed after that year, in addition to another year warranty.

Description:

The darwin is the first regulated power device. It actually controls the power by the wattage. Set your wattage to any desire and the device controls how many amps and volts are needed to be delivered to give you your desired wattage no matter what atomizer or cartomizer you choose to use.

The Darwin reads how many ohms your cartomizer or atomizer is rated for and adjust accordingly. No matter if it is an old carto on it's last leg to the freshly opened carto. You will get the same performance every time.

Price is $245.00, use coupon code "save5" for an additional 5% off at nhaler.com. Comes with an ac adapter and also any generic usb to mini usb can be used with this device.

My opinion

I have always loved the technology behind the darwin since I first read about it. I couldn't believe that a little device could be so ahead of the curb. Of course when I first saw the price I thought someone has to be an absolute idiot to buy one of those things. Now... well lets just say I don't think that any longer.

I have used the device for about a week an a half. I have stuck every single carto I own on it just to see if it was true. I have stuck every single atomizer on it. As for the atomizers well my low resistant atties and my regular 510 atties rock on this thing. I can not tell one bit of difference what so ever when using them at my set wattage.

As for the cartomizers well that is a little odd. When it comes to a dual coil verses a single coil carto it is different but yet the same. A smoke tek dual coil 1.5 ohm set at 8 watts (3.5v 2.3 amps) is different than a smoke tek 2.9 single coil at 8 watts (5v 1.6 amps). I tried other duals and other single cartos also and I come back to the same conclusion. Duals alone I have to toke on several times to get them nice and warm and primed then I can vape. Single coils that isn't the case. You can pretty much take a hit whether it is the first or the 5th and it be almost the same but they do seem to get hotter faster.

I think if you are going to compare carto to carto that both need to be single or both need to be duals regardless of the ohm rating.

Like I said I have been using this device for a little over a week. The battery life has ranged from anywhere between 15 hours and 21 hours. I have pretty much been using the dual coils and I have used anywhere between 6.5 watts up to 11 watts. The battery has lasted me all day without charge and it has taken me only 5 to 6 hours to fully charge the battery.

The one thing that I do not like is the switch. I really wish that it was a little easier to engage. The switch is actually not a switch at all. I actually emailed evolv about it and I will show you how they describe it. "The button is not actually a button at all but rather a brass stamping that sits below the actual microswitch. The button (microswitch) is located a few millimeters above the brass stamping and levers down to activate, so the stamping on the Darwin should appear at an angle to the case. The brass stamping is also not affixed to anything, it rides free in the case and is held in place only by contact pressure from the other internal parts." I contacted evolv cause seriously at first I thought something was wrong. The switch actually appeared crooked or offset. Well I emailed him to ask was this normal. He reassured me it was. Well I still wish it was easier to engage the switch or plate or whatever you want to call it. It doesn't prevent me from using the device but it does make me want to warn others about that, just in case they have more problematic hands than myself.

Here are a few close up pictures of the switch.

Darwin by Evolv-photo0022.jpg Darwin by Evolv-photo0021.jpg

One more small thing that I would like to see in the future is that when you plug in your device there is no way to know for sure that it is charging. Not really a major but at first your like hmmmm I wonder if this is charging. Hmmm I wonder if this thing is fully charged or does the black fill the little battery symbol entirely. Hmmm....

A lot of complaints and worries about that arm. Well I got to say even myself I was pretty worried about that arm. Well after holding it I can clearly see that the arm is secure and bolted in firmly. The arm is also the on and off switch to the device. Which I was worried about snagging something on the carto or atty and ripping the arm completely out. Well when you take the atty or carto off of the device, the arm is just a little 1/2" nub. So no worries there.

Overall the device is wonderful, it is an absolutely great device. There were a few problems, as everyone knows, with the darwin when it was first was released. Well Evolv has corrected those issues. They have made several changes to the latest darwins and repaired the darwins that were sold originally. For me customer service says a lot for a company. Evolv did not push their product to the consumer to make a quick buck and to find the flaws, fix them and just present another mod and call it darwin 2. They took the advice of the customer and fixed it. Then continued to evolv their darwin, (lol had to say it). To me that says a lot.

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Nice review CC...thanks for updating our model guide
BTW Brandon stopped by and gave it a thumbs up..
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Good review. That's weird about not having some kind of indicator it is fully charged. Will Brandon be working on something in the further and do you just leave it on for an average of 5hrs? Do the single coils hit as good as the dual coils on it? And will those 5ml honkers fit? I know as you go up in size the arm will not go down or fully go down but curious to know if those 5ml will screw on there. I recently got one to screw on an ego adjust, looked funny as heck but worked pretty good.
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Thanks Berger for all of your help!! I don't know if your experience was like mine but Brandon got back to me fast when I contacted him!!

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Good review. That's weird about not having some kind of indicator it is fully charged. Will Brandon be working on something in the further and do you just leave it on for an average of 5hrs? Do the single coils hit as good as the dual coils on it? And will those 5ml honkers fit? I know as you go up in size the arm will not go down or fully go down but curious to know if those 5ml will screw on there. I recently got one to screw on an ego adjust, looked funny as heck but worked pretty good.
Well there is an indicator on the device that shows how much battery power you have. When the indicator is full you pull it off. When I say there is not an indicator, you know when the ac adapter on some chargers will go green when it is fully charged. Or on a cell phone it will say fully charged. Well neither of those things happen on the darwin. The ac adapter will continue to stay red. You actually have to turn the device on and look at the battery indicator and see if the battery symbol is full.

The single coils are wonderful Ry4, amazingly but true. I am a die hard dual coil fan. Most of yesterday I was using the single coils, and I loved them on the darwin. I even tried my 4081's and they rock on the darwin. As a matter of fact currently I have my vanilla in a single coil as we speak. I ordered some basic joye 510 cartos at 4.99 a 5 pack, they were shipped today so by the end of the week I will let you know how those go.

Unfortunately the 5ml duals will not fit without an adapter then once you get an adapter you will not be able to close the arm therefore you will not be able to turn your device off.

If you are a tank person or you use the 14mm cartos or bigger you will need a 510 to 510 adapter and either a gooseneck or a leezrd's tail to close the device.

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Thanks Berger for all of your help!! I don't know if your experience was like mine but Brandon got back to me fast when I contacted him!!



Well there is an indicator on the device that shows how much battery power you have. When the indicator is full you pull it off. When I say there is not an indicator, you know when the ac adapter on some chargers will go green when it is fully charged. Or on a cell phone it will say fully charged. Well neither of those things happen on the darwin. The ac adapter will continue to stay red. You actually have to turn the device on and look at the battery indicator and see if the battery symbol is full.

The single coils are wonderful Ry4, amazingly but true. I am a die hard dual coil fan. Most of yesterday I was using the single coils, and I loved them on the darwin. I even tried my 4081's and they rock on the darwin. As a matter of fact currently I have my vanilla in a single coil as we speak. I ordered some basic just 510 ego cartos at 4.99 a 5 pack, they were shipped today so by the end of the week I will let you know how those go.

Unfortunately the 5ml duals will not fit without an adapter then once you get an adapter you will not be able to close the arm therefore you will not be able to turn your device off.

If you are a tank person or you use the 14mm cartos or bigger you will need a 510 to 510 adapter and either a gooseneck or a leezrd's tail to close the device.
Ohhh, I get what you mean now about the indicator. I was thinking there was nothing to tell you anything about if it was fully charged. Good to know you can tell from the battery indicator on the device.

I must say I like single coils better with being able to dial them to where I want. I will be trying some cheap cartos to see how those do as well. Have you tried one with an adapter? On other models like basic egos or epowers, I found they messed up the draw on the carto, making it seem too far away. I haven't tried adapters yet but was curious if it there was a difference with being able to "dial the puff" (stolen lingo). I figured with the 5ml or tanks you couldn't move the arm to shut off but good to know they could work.
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Great Review CC I have had my eye on these for a while just can't decide between the Darwin or the Provari both are a little pricey, but I like the constant voltage/wattage with no drop off. Congrats with your purchase and best of luck with the Darwin!
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Ohhh, I get what you mean now about the indicator. I was thinking there was nothing to tell you anything about if it was fully charged. Good to know you can tell from the battery indicator on the device.

I must say I like single coils better with being able to dial them to where I want. I will be trying some cheap cartos to see how those do as well. Have you tried one with an adapter? On other models like basic egos or epowers, I found they messed up the draw on the carto, making it seem too far away. I haven't tried adapters yet but was curious if it there was a difference with being able to "dial the puff" (stolen lingo). I figured with the 5ml or tanks you couldn't move the arm to shut off but good to know they could work.
Yes I have used an adapter. I used an adapter for my 4081 cartos. Seriously they hit wonderful and not a bit of difference what so ever!!

I also just ordered a 510 to 510 adapter for the just in case factor, I will be happy to let you know how that goes.

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Great Review CC I have had my eye on these for a while just can't decide between the Darwin or the Provari both are a little pricey, but I like the constant voltage/wattage with no drop off. Congrats with your purchase and best of luck with the Darwin!
Thank you so much Mswisher!! It was a hard decision, I love the provari I will not lie one bit. There were a few things that finally got me to leaning to the darwin. Though overall both are great devices, whichever you may choose I seriously believe you will be happy.
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So what finally lead you to the Darwin. I have tried both but still can't decide.
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Well a friend of mine bought a provari a few months back. I still was on the fence. So I decided to wait. Well he has another friend that actually owns a darwin well that friend loaned my friend his darwin for like 3 days. During that time my friend got on cam for me and put the 2 devices side by side and he absolutely loved the darwin, yet he still loved his provari. I could see it in his eyes he wanted to own a darwin.

He told me that the darwin actually gave him a better more solid hit. Now remember I have never used a provari so I have no idea if that is true. That was just what I was told.

After doing more research on my own and using ohms law I calculated up the differences also. At that time I thought the darwin had a 3.0 amp limit. Today from Berger who contacted Brandon I find it is a 6.0 amp limit. The provari is a 2.5 amp limit.

I also like the 2 year warranty. While provari has a 1 year warranty.

Some do not like the built in battery, well for me at first I didn't like the idea either. Then I got to thinking about it I don't have to replace my batteries constantly so actually I know I have use of the battery for at least a year and only 25 bucks to replace it with another year warranty. Also I can use the pass through and plug it in to my computer or car using a generic usb to mini usb cable and vape while it is charging.

I like that I don't have to pull out the calculator to calculate ohms law to know if my carto will work on the device or which voltage to set it at for that ohm of carto or atty. I let the device do the math for me and adjust it to my carto I want to use.

The darwin is a smart durable device. The material it is made from is stout. Lets put it like this, if I was caught in an ally and all I had was my darwin and someone try to mug me. Dude they would so walk away with facial fractures and I would walk without a scratch to my device. Seriously!!
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Thanks for the follow up, alot of the points you mentioned I have also thought about. I think the Darwin is going on the Christmas list. Thanks CC
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Just to clarify Brandon said it has 6 amp current limit protection..Im not sure that means it can deliver 6 amps or not..he never really clarified that...hopefully he will stop back around again and clarify that for us..
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Your very welcome Mswisher, I think you are going to be very very impressed, reading about it and using it is 2 totally different things. The device is a great great device!! No way I would get rid of it. I look forward to future devices from evolv!!

Berger I also was wondering about that but who am I to argue. I know I kicked up a 1.5 ohm dual coil to 12.7 watts (4.5volt 2.9amps). That is the lowest resistance carto or atty I have. I just put a single coil on it that registered 2.9 ohms I kicked it to 12.7 watts (6.2 volts 2.1 amps). So just me here I would say the lower resistant cartos would need the amperage. If a dual 1.5ohm is the usually the lowest they get then I don't really think it matters to much if it is a 3 amp or a 6 amp cut off imo.

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CC That is an amazingly thorough and Outstanding Review. Super Kudos Girl you nailed that sucker down zipper tight
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Thank you Devon!!

Now what do we have to do to get you to do a review on the provari?? You know I still love that provari!!
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Wow CC, excellent review!
You're just full of hidden talent... can't wait to see what you post when you start modding.

Almost makes me want to go drop a couple hundred on a PV... almost...
nah, who'm I kiddin? When it comes to buying gear, I'm so tight I squeak.
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Thank you Devon!!

Now what do we have to do to get you to do a review on the provari?? You know I still love that provari!!
Hmmm, Now there is an Idea I just figured since there were only about 900 Billion Provari reviews out there that no one would really want to hear another spin on it But I can definitely do that. HEHEHE A New Project for the weekend.
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Wow CC, excellent review!
You're just full of hidden talent... can't wait to see what you post when you start modding.

Almost makes me want to go drop a couple hundred on a PV... almost...
nah, who'm I kiddin? When it comes to buying gear, I'm so tight I squeak.
LOL Those Who Can Mod..... DO, those who can't....namely me.... BUY
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Wow CC, excellent review!
You're just full of hidden talent... can't wait to see what you post when you start modding.

Almost makes me want to go drop a couple hundred on a PV... almost...
nah, who'm I kiddin? When it comes to buying gear, I'm so tight I squeak.
Thank you!!

Mr Wizard I was struggling and I saw me close to buying a pack of smokes. I know it was a lot of money but I wanted that extra little bump. Ya know I don't vape as hard or at a high wattage as I thought I would. When it gets rough I bump that thing to 10 or 11 watts and it is sweetttt. I seriously haven't had a thought about going out and getting a pack of smokes since I started using it. For that reason alone I adore this device!!

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Hmmm, Now there is an Idea I just figured since there were only about 900 Billion Provari reviews out there that no one would really want to hear another spin on it But I can definitely do that. HEHEHE A New Project for the weekend.
They aren't on this forum though!! LOL your spin is much wanted!!


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Mr Wizard I was struggling and I saw me close to buying a pack of smokes. I know it was a lot of money but I wanted that extra little bump. Ya know I don't vape as hard or at a high wattage as I thought I would. When it gets rough I bump that thing to 10 or 11 watts and it is sweetttt. I seriously haven't had a thought about going out and getting a pack of smokes since I started using it. For that reason alone I adore this device!!
That is the most compelling argument I can imagine.
Compared to smoking (and the eventual costs both financially and otherwise), spending a couple of hundred to keep off it is a bargain. Especially when it takes two hands to count all the smokers I know that have spent a lot more on Chantrix only to go back to ciggies when the script runs out.

Wonder if Mrs. Wiz will buy that argument?
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That is the most compelling argument I can imagine.
Compared to smoking (and the eventual costs both financially and otherwise), spending a couple of hundred to keep off it is a bargain. Especially when it takes two hands to count all the smokers I know that have spent a lot more on Chantrix only to go back to ciggies when the script runs out.

Wonder if Mrs. Wiz will buy that argument?
Well bring the calculator with you and show her what you spent in 2 months on smokes!! LOL

Also Mr Wiz you have a 7 day money back guarantee no questions asked return policy. You rarely find them on ecf classifieds and if you do they only last at the most a few days.
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Your very welcome Mswisher, I think you are going to be very very impressed, reading about it and using it is 2 totally different things. The device is a great great device!! No way I would get rid of it. I look forward to future devices from evolv!!

Berger I also was wondering about that but who am I to argue. I know I kicked up a 1.5 ohm dual coil to 12.7 watts (4.5volt 2.9amps). That is the lowest resistance carto or atty I have. I just put a single coil on it that registered 2.9 ohms I kicked it to 12.7 watts (6.2 volts 2.1 amps). So just me here I would say the lower resistant cartos would need the amperage. If a dual 1.5ohm is the usually the lowest they get then I don't really think it matters to much if it is a 3 amp or a 6 amp cut off imo.
cool..thanks for the data..
I have to agree too, 3 amps is more then I would need with just about any type of carto currently out there. Ive run the infinity pro up to 3 amps (over 15 watts) at various voltages on different carts and its way way too hot unless you really like that burnt mop bucket taste....Im not sure exactly what they mean by 6 amp current protection but obviously the "power regulation" chip(s) they use is not like anything else currently used in any other mods right now. I was thinking sepic but that is solely a wild guess??
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Your guess is as good as mine, well actually I have no idea what sepic is. lol

Last night browsing I saw the triple coils maybe it applies to those, who knows but I am like you that is way more power than I will ever use.

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Ok here is an update!!

I give up on trying to find a carto that matches the duals performance at a cheaper cost. I am sick of the burnt taste!! Duals out perform any carto on any device that I have tried!!!!!!!!!

Single coils are great at first, but they burn through the juice fast. Duals can handle the heat they can handle the higher amount of amperage needed. Therefore the fill time is not as often as the single coils. The throat hit and the full bodied flavor of the single coils are great on the darwin, but the single coils are time consuming and a headache with the constant refills. Blah I am just not a single coil carto gal I believe.

Ry4 to answer your question about the 510 to 510 adapter. I know what you are talking about like an airy draw. Make sure that you have your adapter screwed in tight enough. If your center pin on the infinity pro is a screw like the other versions you shouldn't have a worry about pushing in your center pin to much on your device. Now on the other hand don't tighten it to much cause I would worry that the screw would hurt your carto before it would your device. Also make sure that the screw already didn't push your connector in to deep.

If you have a good solid connection like I have with my 510 to 510 adapter and carto on my darwin you shouldn't get that airy vape!! In other words no problems here!!

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As weird as it may be, I also want to note I get more battery life when using the dual coils at a higher wattage than per say the single coils at a lower wattage. Weird? Yeah I agree!!

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Ok here is an update!!

I give up on trying to find a carto that matches the duals performance at a cheaper cost. I am sick of the burnt taste!! Duals out perform any carto on any device!!!!!!!!!

Single coils are great at first, but they burn through the juice fast. Duals can handle the heat they can handle the higher amount of amperage needed. Therefore the fill time is not as often as the single coils. The throat hit and the full bodied flavor of the single coils are great on the darwin, but the single coils are time consuming and a headache with the constant refills. Blah I am just not a single coil carto gal I believe.

Ry4 to answer your question about the 510 to 510 adapter. I know what you are talking about like an airy draw. Make sure that you have your adapter screwed in tight enough. If your center pin on the infinity pro is a screw like the other versions you shouldn't have a worry about pushing in your center pin to much on your device. Now on the other hand don't tighten it to much cause I would worry that the screw would hurt your carto before it would your device. Also make sure that the screw already didn't push your connector in to deep.

If you have a good solid connection like I have with my 510 to 510 adapter and carto on my darwin you shouldn't get that airy vape!! In other words no problems here!!
I've recently been using some of the single reg size cartos and I'm not use to all the filling and topping off. Especially after using the 5ml honkers. I can get the same hit of the lr singles as I can the duals but the refilling is a PITA. Of course I've been vaping like heck also.

I haven't used the 510 to 510 on the Infinity. Haven't needed it on that. I had gotten them to use on the E-Power because the XXL DCs kept having center pin issues. The draw on the XXLs was already pretty weak to me then with the 510 to 510 connector made it even more so. Like the draw wasn't there are too far away. Worked to solve the center pin issue but the draw was so bad, wasn't worth it to me. I've just stopped using the XXLs all together because of it. The XLs and 5ml are fine. The XXLs on the infinity are better but the draw is still an issue for me. Not sure really what is up with the XXLs.
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