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Old 06-29-2009, 08:38 PM   #1
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Old 07-02-2009, 02:34 PM   #2
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Question for a juice manufacturerand you're the only one I know)
A couple of us have been discussing bargain evaluation methods I try and evaluate juice I buy based on the as shipped cost in mg/$ (how many mg I get for dollar spent). To me it is "uneconomical" to buy lower strength juice at the same price per ml as stronger stuff. But a lot of people smoke low or medium or even zero nic. I don't mind mixing down, adding a little flavor, experimenting if it saves a little money.
What's your take on a sliding price scale based on strength. Giving a little to the light smoker is gonna cost us at the high end unless you had increased sales in the low to mid range, right? How much zero strength Maple do you sell at full price?

Now another question brought up in another thread.
Bulk, I mean really bulk sales. How much for a liter of 24mg/ml tasteless?
Yes, I serious.
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Old 07-02-2009, 06:36 PM   #3
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What's your take on a sliding price scale based on strength. Giving a little to the light smoker is gonna cost us at the high end unless you had increased sales in the low to mid range, right?
Actually, the majority of the cost per bottle is in the glycerine, flavorings, labels and bottles/tips/caps, not to mention time spent mixing. The nicotine, even at 35mg/ml, adds less than $1 per bottle.

As far as bulk goes, we currently are doing only 3-5 liters per batch. While, of course, we hope to expand this, at present we just aren't set up for it.
But feel free to email me (adam) and I can see about a special order next batch we do.
My email is (^my name^) at vtvapor.com
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Old 07-03-2009, 07:50 PM   #4
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OK Vt,
Got the Tobacco flavored 35mg/ml stuff the other day. Was working in the yard all day today and used it. I can't sit around and vape casually with 35 or 36mg stuff, get the hiccups. But for a few hard hits at a time the stronger stuff does the trick.
Your Tobacco flavor:
better than the various tobacco blends from that other country (which I won't mention),
Almost forgot I was vaping and not smoking. It's really getting tough to pick a favorite flavor, but this is in the running for sure.
And a big Rocket thumbs up to VtVapor for the Tobacco flavored juice (and the thumbs don't come easy dude)

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Old 07-03-2009, 11:20 PM   #5
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Glad to hear that you liked it. I personally don't like tobacco (was a menthol smoker), so I am having to rely on other's feedback to make sure the tobacco blends are satisfactory.
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Old 07-06-2009, 06:50 PM   #6
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Sending out a quick thank you to those giving us a try! Don't forget to use the vapeatron coupon code!

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Old 07-08-2009, 09:02 AM   #7
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I've got an order coming which includes PCC kits, USB passthroughs, e-cig cases, attys, batteries, etc
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Old 07-12-2009, 12:00 PM   #8
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Now would be a good time to use the vapeatron coupon code
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Old 08-04-2009, 10:32 PM   #9
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While you're waiting for your supplies to come in don't forget about those of us that have from time to time pestered you about unflavored "stock". As one of the very few suppliers of U.S. made e-juice you have a unique position here with us in the VapeAtron forum.

As we sit around and worry about the future, stash our stock of stuff, I think you could easily find buyers for unflavored unadulterated unleavened (needed another un- word) juice. Something that would have a good chance of survival in cold storage.

Not saying your flavored juices should be dropped, the tobacco got you that Thumbs UP award (posted my new graphic for your award), but a batch or three would sell (at a fair and reasonable price of course).

Think about it, WE WANT MOOSE JUICE - GIVE US MOOSE JUICE .
and now the graphic (print it, hang it under the moose head I know you have in the den).

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Old 08-06-2009, 01:56 AM   #10
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I guess I might sign up for the notification . Because, when you get un-soldout of those liquids, and I may buy a few atty's along with the unflavored an tobacco
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Old 08-06-2009, 06:37 AM   #11
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We're hopeful that by the weekend we can announce we have the e-liquid back on our website for purchase.
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Old 08-06-2009, 11:20 AM   #12
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WE WANT MOOSE JUICE - GIVE US MOOSE JUICE!!!!...lol I love it.

(Wish I lived in Vermont at times.)
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(Wish I lived in Vermont at times.)
You wouldn't say that this winter when it's 20 below zero and you're out doing the "snowblower shuffle" LOL
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Old 08-06-2009, 07:50 PM   #14
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You wouldn't say that this winter when it's 20 below zero and you're out doing the "snowblower shuffle" LOL
Those "times" were 97-98 degrees like today. yesterday, the day before...etc...

I'm already signed up with you guys... just waiting on customs... I'm getting real tired of the whole China thing right about now... I'll spend with you nice folks.
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Old 08-06-2009, 08:14 PM   #15
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I can vouch for Vermont Vapor. I have purchased from them before. Fast delivery and I have never had any juice produce so much vapor. I've had their Champagne, Mocha and Apple Cinammon. All very good although I like my champagne a little less sweet. They even sent one of those little maple candies that are a staple in Vermont.
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Old 08-06-2009, 09:30 PM   #16
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I can vouch for Vermont Vapor. I have purchased from them before. Fast delivery and I have never had any juice produce so much vapor. I've had their Champagne, Mocha and Apple Cinammon. All very good although I like my champagne a little less sweet. They even sent one of those little maple candies that are a staple in Vermont.
Ohhhh... I have to try that Mocha then!! Thanks!
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With all the scammers out there trying to take our money, the honest ones need to show us positive evidence that they are trustworthy, like being a member of the BBB, or having one of those coveted Rocket's Thumbs Up Awards. Seeing one of those would set a lot of people at ease.

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(VtVapor is not one of those scammers, that's a fact jack)

Maybe I'll get one of those candies next order

UPDATE: Got the candies with my latest order (the big moose colored bottle). If I ever quit vaping I'll just start on those.

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Old 08-18-2009, 09:52 PM   #18
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I'm sorry, Rocketman.........we started including the maple candies after you'd ordered.

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With all the scammers out there trying to take our money, the honest ones need to show us positive evidence that they are trustworthy, like being a member of the BBB, or having one of those coveted Rocket's Thumbs Up Awards. Seeing one of those would set a lot of people at ease.

The YOU-KNOW-WHO

(VtVapor is not one of those scammers, that's a fact jack)

Maybe I'll get one of those candies next order
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Linda...I just gave a friends your web address he wants to order by phone. Is that possible? (idk why....he's afreind of mine...enough said?)
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Old 09-02-2009, 06:18 PM   #20
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Not Linda, but I hope I'll do...

Now that we've abandoned/been-abandoned-by PayPal, it is possible. However, since we don't have the corporate phone system quite operational yet, I don't really want to give out either Linda's or my personal number publicly. He could either send an email or a pm with his number or if I had his email or username I would send him one with my or Linda's number.

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Thanks...I told him. Off topic.....Hey I was just in Vermont..Over in Stowe. Loved the weather, hated to come home!
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Off topic.....Hey I was just in Vermont..Over in Stowe. Loved the weather, hated to come home!
This is my favorite time of year .....50 degree nights and sunny 70 degree days......just wish it didn't mean winter is lurking around the corner! I'm not ready to start doin the snowblower shuffle!
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Hi VtVapor!

I am ready to place a large order of e-liquid. But before I do so, I had a question to ask that I believe will put a lot of inquiring minds at ease. I did ask you by e-mail, but since I haven't yet received a response (I know it's Labor Day Weekend), I figured I'd ask my most imperative question on the forums since I may not have been clear enough by e-mail. This way, all of us e-smokers can make an informed decision when making our purchases:

Your website states this, "At Vermont Vapor, all the liquid we sell is 'mixed' entirely by us - we start with 100% pure food grade glycerine and add distilled water, nicotine (over 99% pure), and citric acid to balance the ph."

This is what I and many others would like to know...
When you say "all the liquid we sell is *mixed* entirely by us", do you mean that you buy your unflavored nicotine liquid from a manuacturer overseas in China, then "mix" in your own recipe of glycerine, distilled water, flavor, and citric acid? Or do you actually manufacture your own raw materials (including nicotine and/or nicotine liquid)? Basically, I am asking, have you found your own way to extract nicotine? Or are you buying raw nicotine from a chemist in the USA or the UK and adding ingredients to that? Or are you getting your nicotine fluid overseas from China and mixing it with your own food grade glycerine, distilled water, flavor, and citric acid? Either way, I (and many others) don't care. We just want to know exactly what we're purchasing and inhaling into our lungs, or get as close to making an informed decision as possible. Again, just to be clear, are you "mixing" pre-made nicotine liquid from China? Or are you making it from scratch by extracting nicotine from tobacco? Or are you buying nicotine from a chemist (raw materials)? I am not asking for your trade secret on extracting nicotine (if you are). We would simply like to know your process on how the nicotine liquid itself comes about (i.e., nicotine extraction done by your company, raw materials from a USA or UK chemist, or an overseas manufacturer of pre-made nicotine liquid in China). And how do you know that your nicotine or nicotine liquid is over 99% pure unless you are extracting it yourself or purchasing it from a chemist?

Hope I was more clear this time. Sorry if I was a bit repetitive, but I wanted to make sure you understood my question this time and I don't think I could have been any clearer than what I typed in this post.

Thank you for your time and we look forward to doing business with you!

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ESmokey,
I have communicated with VtVapor in the past and this is what I gathered:

The Nicotine is 99%+ from a U.S. Chemical supplier, bought I believe in 100 gram units. I looked into buying some and changed my mind. That's some dangerous stuff to play with.
The Glycerin is from a U.S. Supplier that RE-packages per U.S. FDA Good Practices from larger containers and tracks the original lot number from the manufacturer, which probably is in the Phillipines or Indonesia. This is where most Vegetable Glycerin is made. Lot sizes for glycerin are typically 40000 pounds. I don't think he bought an entire lot. This is how "NOW" and "Loranns" get their Glycerin. Hopefully it's not the DOW Chemical synthetic glycerine but the "all natrual" stuff.
It is not, paraphrasing his words, Chinese Nic-O-Liquid reconstituted from concentrate.

He has stated that he extracts the tobacco flavor from tobacco and it may have a small additional amount of Nicotine in it (and MY WORDS HERE: maybe a little other tobacco drippins - guess that's why it tastes like tobacco).
I don't think there is a single thing inside the bottle from China.
I wonder if the shrink band is from CHina?

I'll let Adam answer your other post and we'll compare responses.

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Old 09-08-2009, 12:28 AM   #25
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Good job Rocketman! Adam has been pretty busy juggling his last year of law school and dealing with the growing pains of a new company. I know he hasn't had time lately to answer the forums but will probably be back on when he has a moment to call his own

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