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12-18-2011, 07:41 AM
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#1 | | Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: North Carolina
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| Need some advice from the "experts" here. Been Vaping about 4 months now had issues with sinus infection when I started but cleared up and has been fine for last three months. I got some new liquid from a reputable supplier last week and after 2 carts my sore throat and a sinus infection has returned. Is this common when changing suppliers? I had used the previous supplier for two and a half months and no issues. Is it just a time thing to adjust to the different manufacturer? |
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12-18-2011, 08:31 AM
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#2 | | Senior Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: Iz in ur megabites, stealin ur avatars
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Originally Posted by NCDRAGBIKE Need some advice from the "experts" here. Been Vaping about 4 months now had issues with sinus infection when I started but cleared up and has been fine for last three months. I got some new liquid from a reputable supplier last week and after 2 carts my sore throat and a sinus infection has returned. Is this common when changing suppliers? I had used the previous supplier for two and a half months and no issues. Is it just a time thing to adjust to the different manufacturer? | No, that's not a common issue.
It could just be coincidence, and not necessarily imply causation.
There's nothing I know of in ejuice that would cause an infection... sore throat maybe, allergy/intolerance to an ingredient maybe, but not a sinus infection.
Of course, I'm not a Doctor so my medical opinion means bubkis.
What kind of juice are you using? |
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12-18-2011, 10:35 AM
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#3 | | Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: From Above
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| Don't know maybe you just got a cold and it did not really go away??
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12-18-2011, 10:43 AM
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#4 | | Hypervaporation in effect Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Deep in the Heart of the greatest state in the Union
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| Could be you liked the new juice so much, you vaped more than usual? That could cause a sore throat. Especially if the new vendor's juice was at a higher PG content then you are used to.
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12-18-2011, 10:57 AM
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#5 | | Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Long Island, NY
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| +1 check the PG/VG ratio- some people like higher VG- me, the highest VG I can go is 50%- but all PG is kinda nasty- 80/20 is usually a good starting point- |
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12-18-2011, 11:35 AM
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#6 | | Couldnt take it anymore Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Mod impersonation carries a stiff penalty YKWYA
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| I wouldn't say all PG is nasty..just some juices are nasty..I think a lot has to do how good the nic base is and how well solvent extraction has been done..
that being said I tend to like high VG also but have been increasing PG % for additional flavor carrying abilities as of late
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12-18-2011, 02:29 PM
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#7 | | Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: In Your Dreams
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Originally Posted by NCDRAGBIKE Need some advice from the "experts" here. Been Vaping about 4 months now had issues with sinus infection when I started but cleared up and has been fine for last three months. I got some new liquid from a reputable supplier last week and after 2 carts my sore throat and a sinus infection has returned. Is this common when changing suppliers? I had used the previous supplier for two and a half months and no issues. Is it just a time thing to adjust to the different manufacturer? | If you are reusing your carts, you may be reinfecting yourself....just a thought. I have thought about e-cigs and germs a lot. Unlike a disposable analog, I catch myself setting my PV down on surfaces that I would not necessarily want to lick.  An example is my PV rolling off the car seat and onto the floor board, then picking it up and vaping. That's kind of nasty when you think about it. Now I keep disinfectant wipes in the car. I know you didn't ask for all that. I'm sorry I got off track. |
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12-18-2011, 04:03 PM
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#8 | | Modder Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: rhode island usa
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| Well, i also would like to put this up for consideration, when i started vaping, it did not click that my allergys came back. After smoking for 10 years, i thought my body had lost them when the body chem changed, but i was so wrong.. I almost quit vaping because i did not understand.. But after some help with a otc allergy meds, i am now able to go week or longer with out them again.. When i switched brands some times i found that i could not breath, and got stuffed up.. well long story short, it might be some thing simple..
Also i hate all vg, and all pg juices.. I however love 50-50 mixes, and that is where i am at now. It gives me more benefits at this percentage then any other i have tryed, and i am happy.. |
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12-18-2011, 05:23 PM
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#9 | | Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: North Carolina
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| Thanks Wizard, I didn't think so either but My wife, a friend and I all had a sore throat after using samples from the new supplier. I am the only one with sinus problems and I do suffer with them from time to time. This could be a coinsidence. Thought I would add both old and new are PG based 6mg liquids. Hers is a different flavor though. I believe the new one is Dekang base. I will check tomorrow. Don't know what the older one is yet. Waiting on a responce to e-mail. Well I ment to post this earlier and forgot too but thanks for all the other comments. Can PG base be different from differrent suppliers? I do know I am not vaping more than before, also my friends carto was his first refill and my wife and I don't share cartos. She never had this issue before. I have been fine for over three months no issues. Should have a little more info to up date tomorrow nite. Thanks again ya'll
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12-18-2011, 05:34 PM
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#10 | | Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Gainesville, Florida
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Originally Posted by Rose If you are reusing your carts, you may be reinfecting yourself....just a thought. I have thought about e-cigs and germs a lot. Unlike a disposable analog, I catch myself setting my PV down on surfaces that I would not necessarily want to lick.  An example is my PV rolling off the car seat and onto the floor board, then picking it up and vaping. That's kind of nasty when you think about it. Now I keep disinfectant wipes in the car. I know you didn't ask for all that. I'm sorry I got off track.  | Quote:
Originally Posted by NCDRAGBIKE Thanks Wizard, I didn't think so either but My wife, a friend and I all had a sore throat after using samples from the new supplier. I am the only one with sinus problems and I do suffer with them from time to time. This could be a coinsidence. Thought I would add both old and new are PG based 6mg liquids. Hers is a different flavor though. I believe the new one is Dekang base. I will check tomorrow. Don't know what the older one is yet. Waiting on a responce to e-mail | Rose is on to something there... Have you all three maybe shared a device? I recently got strep throat from a friend that also vapes after I used her device to vape with for a while. After retracing my steps it was the only way I could have gotten it.
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12-18-2011, 05:42 PM
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#11 | | Senior Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: Iz in ur megabites, stealin ur avatars
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| Rose is definitely on to something that I've been meaning to bring up for a while now.
Technology cleaning.
Cell phones, mice, keyboards, PVs, etc.
All items that we handle and touch constantly, should also be cleaned and disinfected regularly.
Just a simple wipe with alcohol is sufficient to kill most germs. |
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12-18-2011, 06:10 PM
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#12 | | Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: North Carolina
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Originally Posted by Kali Rose is on to something there... Have you all three maybe shared a device? I recently got strep throat from a friend that also vapes after I used her device to vape with for a while. After retracing my steps it was the only way I could have gotten it. | Nope Wife vapes Vanilla and I reg tobacco flavor. My wife and her sister do share cartos once in awhile, but Sis has had no problems but she has not had any of the new liquid yet. I have two Buddies that just started, we are using different cartos so no sharing between them and me, just the same liquid. One has had no problems yet (not vaping 100%yet) but the other had the sore throat issue. This was the first refill of a carto for him. |
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12-18-2011, 06:17 PM
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#13 | | Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: North Carolina
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| Wizard I agree with you on the Disinfectant to dosent hurt to be a little carefull especially this time of year. I am very carefull to wash my hands and wear gloves when handling the refill chores. I drive a school bus so very aware of the issues around this. |
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12-18-2011, 06:47 PM
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#14 | | Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Long Island, NY
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| I clean my cartos with 91% isopropyl alcohol-cheap- Duane Reade 1.99 a bottle- just rinse and soak- DO NOT re-rinse with water- let dry-
Here's my patented drying method-lol
Both good for cleaning and disinfecting! |
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12-18-2011, 07:10 PM
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#15 | | Senior Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: Iz in ur megabites, stealin ur avatars
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| I always recommend rinsing well with distilled water after using iso alcohol on your cartos.
If you don't want to rinse, then at least make sure they are COMPLETELY dry before using, or better yet, use 95% ethyl alcohol (190 proof grain) instead.
Inhaling iso alc can cause nerve and brain damage when absorbed by the lungs. |
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12-18-2011, 07:51 PM
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#16 | | Couldnt take it anymore Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Mod impersonation carries a stiff penalty YKWYA
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| Boiling in water should disinfect them also and is really cheap as well..
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12-18-2011, 08:00 PM
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#17 | | Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: In Your Dreams
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Originally Posted by berger Boiling in water should disinfect them also and is really cheap as well..  | Yes, it really is cheap, but my car is a tad short of boiling water. I know that I'm not the only one that puts their PV down and then picks it up and vapes. If I dropped an analog on the floor, I would discard it. Like, for instance, I can't find my PV, then I find it under the bed, do I go clean it? The answer would be no.... I pick it up and vape on it like I'm trying to suck the chrome off of a trailer hitch! |
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12-18-2011, 08:03 PM
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#18 | | Alright, Who Farted!!?? Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Florida
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How long have you been cleaning your cartos with iso-alcohol and then reusing them?
Better stop doing that.... Iso-alcohol is for external use ONLY!!
You put a bit of it in your body and it could cause very, very serious brain damage, even death.
And going through your lungs, goes directly into your bloodstream. |
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12-18-2011, 08:06 PM
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#19 | | Senior Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: west virginia
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| Boiling in water probably does a lot better job of killing germs than alcohol does. Alcohol is better used to sterlize your GI tract
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12-18-2011, 08:08 PM
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#20 | | Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Long Island, NY
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Originally Posted by Shekinahsgroom OMG Cat!?
How long have you been cleaning your cartos with iso-alcohol and then reusing them?
Better stop doing that.... Iso-alcohol is for external use ONLY!!
You put a bit of it in your body and it could cause very, very serious brain damage, even death.
And going through your lungs, goes directly into your bloodstream. | They have to be completely dry- same as grain alcohol-although I havent experienced any...what was I saying...?
Putting them back into water (unless its distilled) only adds minerals and chemicals...
Although, they are cheap enough-I would say if one has doubts, simply buy in bulk- Healthcabin has them for 5.49 per 5-pack
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12-18-2011, 08:33 PM
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#21 | | Senior Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: Iz in ur megabites, stealin ur avatars
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Originally Posted by jacatro They have to be completely dry- same as grain alcohol-although I havent experienced any...what was I saying...? | LOL
The difference being that the grain alc is safe to vape in case the carto isn't completely dry... that and it's handy to have around for... medicinal purposes. |
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12-18-2011, 08:33 PM
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#22 | | Hypervaporation in effect Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Deep in the Heart of the greatest state in the Union
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Originally Posted by Rose If you are reusing your carts, you may be reinfecting yourself....just a thought. I have thought about e-cigs and germs a lot. Unlike a disposable analog, I catch myself setting my PV down on surfaces that I would not necessarily want to lick.  An example is my PV rolling off the car seat and onto the floor board, then picking it up and vaping. That's kind of nasty when you think about it. Now I keep disinfectant wipes in the car. I know you didn't ask for all that. I'm sorry I got off track.  | Good point. I use those little wipes as well and I also use Isp Alc to clean them. I live in a world filled with germs! Like everyone else.  Not really concerned about the Alc. I use it to clean lots of stuff. Works awesome when the kids find the magic makers (always hidden but they are sneaky)
Love the fan method. I use it to but, I use an air compressor more often. (can't wait to hear how bad that is)
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12-18-2011, 08:39 PM
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#23 | | Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: In Your Dreams
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Originally Posted by wetwire Good point. I use those little wipes as well and I also use Isp Alc to clean them. I live in a world filled with germs! Like everyone else.  Not really concerned about the Alc. I use it to clean lots of stuff. Works awesome when the kids find the magic makers (always hidden but they are sneaky)
Love the fan method. I use it to but, I use an air compressor more often. (can't wait to hear how bad that is) | Just another thought... It is better to use hand soap that is NOT antibacterial. We need a few germs in our world. We are creating mega bacteria, because we are sometimes TOO clean. Our antibiotics are in overusage and can't handle it anymore. Just an FYI. |
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12-18-2011, 08:58 PM
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#24 | | Vapezilla Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Escaping Hades
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Originally Posted by mrwizard Rose is definitely on to something that I've been meaning to bring up for a while now.
Technology cleaning.
Cell phones, mice, keyboards, PVs, etc.
All items that we handle and touch constantly, should also be cleaned and disinfected regularly.
Just a simple wipe with alcohol is sufficient to kill most germs. | Doesn't everyone clean their stuff  I don't like germs so I clean regular-- even door handles. |
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12-18-2011, 08:59 PM
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#25 | | Vapezilla Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Escaping Hades
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Originally Posted by jacatro I clean my cartos with 91% isopropyl alcohol-cheap- Duane Reade 1.99 a bottle- just rinse and soak- DO NOT re-rinse with water- let dry-
Here's my patented drying method-lol
Both good for cleaning and disinfecting!  | I'm too skeerd to do that. Wouldn't clean my cartos with anything that I wasn't willing to drink. |
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