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Old 08-23-2009, 07:11 PM   #1
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Dos any one know what the wick is made of ?
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Old 08-23-2009, 10:08 PM   #2
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If you are talking about the cartridge filler material.

I went searching in the forum but came up empty handed. There was a discussion about filler material a while back. I think the general consensus was the material is Polyethylene terephthalate (one trade name is Dacron) woven fabric. This will discolor and degrade at temperatures above 160C explaining the need to keep things wet in close proximity to the atomizer. Some have found it in stores in the craft or aquarium supply sections. It is the woven fabric type not the pillow stuffing fiber-fill type. Then Stehle also found a special tea bag material to make even better fillers.

Search the forum or just wait - an answer will show up for sure tomorrow.
Someone will give you a link to the right thread.

The troll hair discussed in another thread is probably an aramid or maybe fiberglass fiber to take the heat of the atomizer directly. Even this stuff will degrade and melt if the atomizer is allowed to overheat, or get dry giving you the trademark "burning plastic mop bucket, makes you want to puke" taste.

Remember: A wet atomizer is a happy atomizer.

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Old 08-23-2009, 11:13 PM   #3
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The troll hair discussed in another thread is probably an aramid or maybe fiberglass fiber to take the heat of the atomizer directly. Even this stuff will degrade and melt if the atomizer is allowed to overheat, or get dry giving you the trademark "burning plastic mop bucket, makes you want to puke" taste.
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I believe the troll hair serves to wisck the juice onto the atty and keep it wet. I don't see how a few fibers are gonna sink heat from the coil. *shrugs* I could certianly be wrong. I've seen a lot of heatsinks in my day - Electronics tech by trade.

I had that chronic burnt taste thing going on and removed the troll hair from the atty. Still works but that atty *seems* to go dry fast- i have to give it some "catch-up" time after 3-4 good hits. This points to "wicking" rather than "heatsinking" as per above but again I must stress that I'm just guessing here. the closest I have come to a controlled test is to notice that every time I'm using a random atty from the atty "rack" that seems "slow" it's the one without the troll hair.

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Old 08-24-2009, 05:34 AM   #4
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Generic, the heater element in the atty will glow red if it ain't wet, try it. The liquid in direct contact with the element will dissipate heat by boiling off the liquid much like a pot on the stove. Sort of like a liquid heat pump to keep the heater cool. When the pot boils dry, stop vaping.

No numbers here but try to visually compare the thermal mass of the itty bitty coil of wire by itself, to the thermal mass of the itty bitty coil of wire with wet troll hair and a supply of juice to keep the the hair wet. That is the purpose of the wick in the coil. Most have it (maybe all?) as a form to make the coil on. The ones with troll hair sticking out of the bridge uncut (a-la-naturale) probably even wick better. What ever it is made of it will fuse into a clump of crud if continuously heated.

The "slow" atty with no troll hair may be running hot and dry, creating a field of steam next to the element, a barrier to incoming liquid. Sort of like an air-lock in a gas line. The steam has to escape and that outflow keeps fresh juice from coming in contact with the element. When you pause, juice floods the element and all is well for a puff or two. Analyzing this complicated thermal balance would probably be more suited to a post-grad thesis than to real life vaping. What matters is how these things vape, and how to keep them from dying, right?
Just remember grasshopper, one day you will realize the importance of being one with your atomizer.

A wet atty is a happy atty.
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Old 08-24-2009, 09:33 AM   #5
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Okay gotcha Rocketman.

The troll hair indeed DOES provide cooling in that it keeps the atty wet. It read, to me initially, as if the hair in and unto itself provided some cooling/heatsinking.

It indeed does that indirectly by keeping our atties wet and therefore..... Happy!

I wholly concur: Wet=good Dry=bad.


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Old 08-24-2009, 09:43 AM   #6
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Now it is quite possible that "troll", being a little magical, might be able to afford protection, if treated properly, to our attys. Try and take a small toothpick and stoke the hair in your atty to see if that helps. I think they like nicotine. Talk softly and don't curse your atty or it may try to get back at you. If your troll leaves your atty, it will no longer function.
Keep it damp and cool under the bridge.

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Old 08-25-2009, 04:26 AM   #7
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Someone on the other forum said they are using this
Organic Pure Grow Additional Wool Nibs Fresh and Green
for the cart filler. Has anyone here tried it?
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